A Marines Perspective

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[Texas Mom]

This Marine pretty well said it all..

"Because most Americans were too lazy to look beyond the three minute sound-bites on the evening news. Here's a news flash not being broadcast much: "On September 11th, America had the exact level of protection, both military and intelligence, that it was willing to pay for".

[Swede Girl]

Well said!

[Iris7]

Machiavelli pointed out that democracies do not long survive the people becoming licentious, that is, democracy cannot survive the people refusing to distinguish right from wrong.

We have a probably majoritarian political party whose only position is that wrong is right. The last President was elected and re-elected who was of the lowest moral character, whose "right" was whatever his depraved imagination desired. His wife is of much worse character and is now a Senator.

Democracy will not survive under these conditions.

[rbmillerjr]

From an 82nd Abn vet,,,,,,hooya,,,,,,right on the button my Marine friend.

[briant]

If they cut deeper into Food Stamps those poor women will have to move down to Size 18/20 dresses!

LOL, I always found something counterintuitive in that.

[Texas Mom]

"When a citizen gives sufferage to a man of known immorality, he abuses his trust and betrays the interest of his country."

Noah Webster

That is what we have had the past eight years. This marine said it all..

[rockfish59]

it's just like the intersection with no stop signs. none is ever put up til someone is killed. we are putting the stop sign up now in 'ashcanistan'.
i am hoping that the deaths of thousands will open peoples eyes to the sickness of socialism/PC crap that has infested the USA, with the head being hillac**t. take out the head and the body withers. let them AND their constituents go live in the 'turd world' that they care so much about!

[rockfish59]

'CHESTY' PULLER IS THE MAN!

[Illbay]

Posted about a dozen times in the last week or so. Please do a search before posting. PLEASE don't post stuff you get via amail. It's not news.

[lavaroise]

"Because most Americans were too lazy to look beyond the three minute sound-bites on the evening news. Here's a news flash not being broadcast much: "On September 11th, America had the exact level of protection, both military and intelligence, that it was willing to pay for".

The whole of America finds itself in a leftist utopian zone of peace welfare mentality. We want arabs and coalitions to defend us, the result is our Arab mob protection does not inform the CIA of an impending attack, the CIA is too busy talking about sensitivity to gays instead of figuring whether the Arabs are not screwing us.

And as far as the marines, America does not even want the burden of seeing our boys shedding any drop of blood for freedom, so we engage them in sensitivity training too and shoving down their throat arrogant women pretending to be like the guys.

Then we have the peace nicks talking about collateral damage but forgetting that their welfare peace dividend in Vietnam cost millions of South Vietnamese lives killed by the North.

Ah, what peace is that! An expensive one indeed, one demanding peace keepers to sit like sitting ducks and not fire, one demanding South Vietnamese blood by the millions, one demanding that we be protected by Arab coalitions abroad, since we have no man power, but that turns agaisnt us and kills 5600 people at the WTC.

It's time we ended the peace collateral damage, it's time we ended our welfare mentality. Clearly, life at times is not worth living if freedoms and sanity goes down the toilet.

Give me liberty or give me death. The hell with collateral damage of war for liberty.

May the martyred ghosts of freedom drag down to hell the cowards and peace activists when their time come.

[OldFriend]

If we had a military draft Americans would have cared a lot more about foreign affairs and their elected officials.

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

Yes,making mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep

Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;

An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit

Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.

Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an""Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"

But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll-

The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll

O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

Rudyard Kipling

"TOMMY"

[BLASTER 14]

Illbay: I don't care if this particular piece has been published a dozen, dozen times. This is the first time I saw it.

Texas Mom: Thanks, and WHOOOP!!!GIG'EM!!!!

B14

[Goblins]

You don't happen to have a copy of "An American" by Kipling do you? I don't have a copy at the moment and I think its quite apt, if I remember.

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

I'm looking through my library- no luck so far. But here is one of my favorites, as a simple soldier: HYMN BEFORE ACTION (1896)

(1)

The Earth is full of anger

The seas are dark with wrath,

The Nations in their harness

Go up against our path:

Ere yet we loose the legions

Ere yet we draw the blade,

Jehovah of the Thunders,

Lord God of Battles, aid!

(6)

E'en now their vanguard gathers.

E'en now we face the fray-

As Thou didst help our fathers,

Help Thou our host today.

Fulfilled of signs and wonders,

In life, in death made clear-

Jehovah of the Thunders,

Lord God of Battles, hear!

[Texas Mom]

"Posted about a dozen times in the last week or so. Please do a search before posting. PLEASE don't post stuff you get via amail. It's not news. "

Evidently this is the first some one us have seen it. Many of the vanities aren't news either. Unless this is a hoax, which I don't think it is. Does it really hurt to have it posted again? Granted. I got it in email for the first time this morning. Many of us don't sit here 24/7 and read everything that is posted every day and when we don't they get buried but those who do. Sorry.

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

Don't worry about this moron. Some of these folks regard themselves as "assistant site monitors", and just scroll through threads looking for posters to lambaste. These are the folks who used to volunteer to watch the class while the 5th-Grade teacher was out oif the room! Insufferable self-important busybodies.

[Illbay]

Evidently this is the first some one us have seen it.

That doesn't matter and is beside the point. Please read the rules. There is a REASON why responsible contributors are asked to carefully search before posting. Remember that we are ALL of us guests here. We don't have to worry about the disk space, or the throughput, or storage or archiving. Our hosts do that.

But we can obey the simple and straightforward rules--which aren't even that strictly enforced as the Robinsons expect us all to behave as they wish we would.

If you want to post something, do a search first. It won't ALWAYS work but most of the time it will. For example, try this: go to "Search" and type in "Harrier" in the dialogue box. Within about two seconds, look what comes up:

A letter from a US Marine Harrier Pilot by GatorGirl.

Voila, it's easy as that.

If you find what you wanted to post, then feel free to jump on THAT thread and "bump" it, thus bringing it to everyone's attention again.

I'm not trying to be harsh; I'm just trying to emphasize that there are reasons multiple-posting is considered "rude" on FR, and this oft-heard excuse--a lame one at that--that "I haven't seen it before" is beside the point, because you can always "bump" the earlier thread.

A word to the wise is often sufficient.

[Illbay]

It has nothing to do with being "assistant site monitors," it has to do with simple courtesy and obeying the few rules that our hosts have put forth. There are reasons for them.

So tell me, who is the "moron": The person who wants to obey the rules (like Pres. Bush) or the one who does as he sees fit (say, Osama bin Laden)?

You make the call.

[John Farson]

An American
1894

The American Spirit speaks:
If the Led Striker call it a strike,
Or the papers call it a war,
They know not much what I am like,
Nor what he is, My Avatar.

Throuh many roads, by me possessed,
He shambles forth in cosmic guise;
He is the Jester and the Jest,
And he the Text himself applies.

The Celt is in his heart and hand,
The Gaul is in his brain and nerve;
Where, cosmopolitanly planned,
He guards the Redskin's dry reserve

His easy unswept hearth he lends
From Labrador to Guadeloupe;
Till, elbowed out by sloven friends,
He camps, at sufferance, on the stoop.

Calm-eyed he scoffs at Sword and Crown,
Or, panic-blinded, stabs and slays:
Blatant he bids the world bow down,
Or cringing begs a crust of praise;

Or, sombre-drunk, at mine and mart,
He dubs his dreary breathren Kings.
His hands are black with blood -- his heart
Leaps, as a babe's, at little things.

But, through the shift of mood and mood,
Mine ancient humour saves him whole --
The cynic devil in his blood
That bids him mock his hurrying soul;

That bids him flout the Law he makes,
That bids him make the Law he flouts,
Till, dazed by many doubts, he wakes
The drumming guns that -- have no doubts;

That checks him foolish-hot and fond,
That chuckles through his deepest ire,
That gilds the slough of his despond
But dims the goal of his desire;

Inopportune, shrill-accented,
The acrid Asiatic mirth
That leaves him, careless 'mid his dead,
The scandal of the elder earth.

How shall he clear himself, how reach
Your bar or weighed defence prefer --
A brother hedged with alien speech
And lacking all interpreter?

Which knowledge vexes him a space;
But, while Reproof around him rings,
He turns a keen untroubled face
Home, to the instant need of things.

Enslaved, illogical, elate,
He greets the embarrassed Gods, nor fears
To shake the iron hand of Fate
Or match with Destiny for beers.

Lo, imperturbable he rules,
Unkempt, desreputable, vast --
And, in the teeth of all the schools,
I -- I shall save him at the last!

Complete Collection of Poems by Rudyard Kipling