Posted on 10/09/2001 8:21:36 PM PDT by Diago
OUR LADY AND ISLAM: HEAVEN’S PEACE PLAN
Fr Ladis J. Cizik, Blue Army National Executive Director
Islam Islam is an Arabic word that can be defined as "to make peace." Islam is the religion founded by Mohammed, which considers the Koran as its holy book. In addition, Islam accepts the New Testament of the Christians and the Old Testament of the Jews as Divinely inspired works. Followers of Islam are known as Muslims (also: Moors, Turks, and Moslems) and, just as Jews and Christians, believe in only one God. Yet, over the centuries, Muslims have engaged in tremendous wars with Christians and Jews. It would seem that there is little hope for peace. However, Heaven's Peace Plan, involving Our Lady, is evidenced at Fatima, Portugal as well as other places around the world.
Fatima
The Moors once occupied Portugal. The village of Fatima was given the Islamic name of the well-loved Princess of the nearby Castle of Ourem. She died at an early age after marrying the Count of Ourem and converting to Catholicism. Baptized with the Christian name of Oureana, she was named at birth "Fatima," like many other Moslem girls, in honor of the daughter of Mohammed. Of his daughter, Fatima, the founder of Islam, Mohammed, said: "She has the highest place in heaven after the Virgin Mary."
It is a fact that Moslems from various nations, especially from the Middle East, make so many pilgrimages to Our Lady of Fatima's Shrine in Portugal that Portuguese officials have expressed concern. The combination of an Islamic name and Islamic devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary is a great attraction to Moslems. God is writing straight with crooked lines, as we will see. Fatima is a part of Heaven's Peace Plan. It is hope for the world.
The Koran
In the Koran, the holy name of the Blessed Virgin Mary is mentioned no less than thirty times. No other woman's name is even mentioned, not even that of Mohammed's daughter, Fatima. Among men, only Abraham, Moses, and Noah are mentioned more times than Our Lady. In the Koran, Our Blessed Mother is described as "Virgin, ever Virgin." The Islamic belief in the virginity of Mary puts to shame the heretical beliefs of those who call themselves Christian, while denying the perpetual virginity of Mary. Make no mistake about it, there is a very special relationship between the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Moslems!
The Holy Land
The Holy Land has been a real battleground between the Islamic peoples and Christianity over the centuries. Evidence of this are the numerous churches and basilicas that have been built by the Church, destroyed by, the Moslems, rebuilt by Catholic Crusaders, leveled again by the followers of Islam, and so on over the course of history. However, there is one remarkable exception: the Basilica of Saint Anne in Jerusalem.
The Crusaders built this church and named it in honor of the mother of the Blessed Virgin Mary. In the Crypt of St. Anne's Basilica, a statue of the Infant Mary is venerated on what is believed to be the exact spot where Our Lady was born. Their great reverence for Our Lady precluded the Moslems from destroying her birthplace. The foundation for Heaven's Peace Plan at Fatima, Portugal, can be found in the Land of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Spain
As the Moslems swept through Spain in the 8th century, a great religious treasure was buried for safe-keeping in the earth, high in the Estremadura Mountains. It was a much venerated statue of Our Lady holding the Divine Child Jesus that was a gift of Pope Gregory the Great to Bishop Leander of Seville. After the overthrow of Moorish occupation, the image was uncovered in the year 1326, subsequent to a vision of Our Lady to a humble shepherd by the name of Gil. Our Lady's very special statue was enshrined in a nearby Franciscan Monastery next to the "Wolf River."
The Moslems, during their Spanish occupation, had actually named the river. The Islamic term for Wolf River is "Guadalupe" (Guada = River; Lupe = Wolf). Hence, the famous Catholic image in Spain has been known, since the 14th century, by the Islamic name of "Our Lady of Guadalupe."
Mexico
In the fullness of time, we can be sure that Almighty God knew that the Islamic religion would pose a serious threat to Christianity. God also knew that the Spanish missionaries would face grave resistance in the "new world" from the mighty Aztec Indians. The Aztecs worshipped an evil stone "serpent god" that demanded human sacrifice. It was extremely difficult to win souls for Christ from these bloodthirsty savages. However, with God all things are possible. Our Lady appeared to a humble Aztec Indian convert by the name of Juan Diego in 1531. When asked her name by Juan Diego, at the request of the local bishop, Our Lady's response, in the Aztec language, included the words "te coatlaxopeuh" (pronounced: "te quatlasupe") and meant "one who crushes the head of the stone serpent."
To Juan Diego and his fellow Aztecs, this revelation had great meaning, coupled with the miraculous image of Our Lady standing on top of a "crescent," the symbol of this evil serpent god. A tidal wave of conversions to Catholicism ensued. However, Bishop Zumarraga, who was from Spain, made what was no doubt a "heavenly mistake" that one day may lead to the mass conversion of Moslems. To the Bishop's Spanish ears, Our Lady's Aztec name of "Te Quatlasupe" sounded just like the name of the revered Madonna from Spain with the Islamic name, "Guadalupe." Hence, the bishop named the Mexican Madonna "Our Lady of Guadalupe." It is interesting that the "crescent" is also the symbol for Islam and that America's Shrine to Our Lady has an Islamic name.
Battle of Lepanto
On October 7, 1571, a great victory over the mighty Turkish fleet was won by Catholic naval forces primarily from Spain, Venice, and Genoa under the command of Don Juan of Austria. It was the last battle at sea between "oared" ships, which featured the most powerful navy in the world, a Moslem force with between 12,000 to 15,000 Christian slaves as rowers. The patchwork team of Catholic ships was powered by the Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Knowing that the Christian forces were at a distinct material disadvantage, the holy pontiff, St. Pope Pius V called for all of Europe to pray the Rosary for victory.
We know today that the victory was decisive, prevented the Islamic invasion of Europe, and evidenced the Hand of God working through Our Lady. At the hour of victory, St. Pope Pius V, who was hundreds of miles away at the Vatican, is said to have gotten up from a meeting, went over to a window, and exclaimed with supernatural radiance: "The Christian fleet is victorious!" and shed tears of thanksgiving to God.
What you may not know is that one of three admirals commanding the Catholic forces at Lepanto was Andrea Doria. He carried a small copy of Mexico's Our Lady of Guadalupe into battle. This image is now enshrined in the Church of San Stefano in Aveto, Italy. Not many know that at the Monastery of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Spain, one can view a huge warship lantern that was captured from the Moslems in the Battle of Lepanto. In Rome, look up to the ceiling of S. Maria in Aracoeli and behold decorations in gold taken from the Turkish galleys. In the Doges' Palace in Venice, Italy, one can witness a giant Islamic flag that is now a trophy from a vanquished Turkish ship from the Victory. At Saint Mary Major Basilica in Rome, close to the tomb of the great St. Pope Pius V, one was once able to view yet another Islamic flag from the Battle, until 1965, when it was returned to Istanbul in an intended friendly token of concord.
The Rosary
At Lepanto, the Victory over the Moslems was won by the faithful praying the Rosary. Even though they had superior numbers, the Turks really were overmatched. Blessed Padre Pio, the Spiritual Father of the Blue Army, said: "The Rosary is the weapon," and how right he was!
The Battle of Lepanto was at first celebrated liturgically as "Our Lady of Victory." Later, the feast of October 7th was renamed "Our Lady of the Rosary" and extended throughout the Universal Church by Pope Clement XI in 1716 (who canonized Pope Pius V in 1712).
And with that we are back to Fatima, Portugal where Our Lady, when asked her name, said: "I am the Lady of the Rosary." At Fatima, Our Lady taught us to pray the Rosary every day. Heaven presented its peace plan at Fatima and truly gave us hope for the world. Conversions were promised at Fatima: the conversion of sinners; the conversion of Russia; and what also appears to be the conversion of Islam. Our Lady of the Rosary, pray for us!
Taken from:
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September - October 2001, page 6
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Wow Robby we are really on different pages..but let us look just at the one "necessity" that set us apart from Islam and other Pagan faiths
Yes Jesus was necessay,and no he had no choice.He had to come.The Father planned the means of salvation,the Son had to come,He had to be obedient to the will and plan of the Father.
God is always true,God does not lie,God said He would send a savior.The only one that could save fallen man was God himself.
God can not lie,He promised all thougout the OT that He would come and He did.
Jesus did not want to die.He was frightened.But He had no choice..yes Robby it was necessary to reconcile God to his creation there was no other way.
Mark 14 35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
Do you think the Father took pleasure in this?
Luke 38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.
Robby this seems to be your question..If you can for one moment not understand that indeed the cross was necessary
It was the only way a Holy God could bring salvation and judgement on sinful man
This came to my mind as I was typing this,and so I will share it with you
Jesus had just told a parable to the crowd..the parables were not general teaching tools,they were like a secret code .They were the way Jesus reveiled the mysteries of the kingdom to His chosen followers and so Jesus speaks
Mark 9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.
11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
Robby to understand the necessity of the cross you have to go back and read the OT,read Isaiah.God promised,He put it in writting. He made a contract (covenant) with man.He is Faithful and true.Jesus had to die on the cross it was a necessity..
Robby, "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.Acts 4:12
As it is for America, so it is for The Catholic Church. Part time theologians and self proclaimed intellectuals continue to spew their venum, but alas, it is like pissing into the wind. The only thing they succeed in doing is soiling themselves.
Nothing you can say changes any of this. Their success speaks for itself. They are the New York Yankees of Christianity. I remain a die hard Twins fan, but I tip my cap to them. No sense in being sore loser.
America, founded by Reformers with Biblical principals!
BTW, Rome proclaimed its position against the Church first on this thread:
The Islamic belief in the virginity of Mary puts to shame the heretical beliefs of those who call themselves Christian, while denying the perpetual virginity of Mary. Make no mistake about it, there is a very special relationship between the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Moslems!I stand on the Rock. I have quoted the Bible. You complain! You will learn in the Day of the Lord's vengence that I am right: (Revelation 19)
And I saw Heaven opened, and behold, a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written that no man knew, but He Himself. And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and His name is called, The Word of God. And the armies which were in Heaven, clothed in fine linen white and clean, followed Him upon white horses. And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword with which He shall smite the nations, and He shall rule them with a rod of iron; and He treadeth the wine press of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
I have been thinking about the wierd path of posting you have been on and the Bible has something to say about what you are thinking:
But when He had turned about and looked on His disciples, He rebuked Peter, saying, "Get thee behind Me, Satan; for thou savorest not the things that are of God, but the things that are of men."
LOL I have been told I am not "serious enough" about spiritual matters ,and now you assume I am doom and gloom
Beliving that God has a plan is only doom and gloom if you are unprepared to meet your maker..
I am alot of fun,I love life,and smiles ,I love God and I trust Him.
America is in spiritual trouble,now you can close your eyes and pretend all is fine and that somehow God hasnt noticed.Or you can know that He knows and has a plan.
So I still don't get your beef. Why are you so obsessed with the Catholics? Sure they are a little quirky, but hey so is Pat Robertson. But I'd rather have them on my team than Louis Farrakan.
Revelation 12:11 They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death.
Revelation 20: I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
I'm not, but the RC church is the topic of this thread:
OUR LADY AND ISLAM: HEAVEN’S PEACE PLANIf this was a LDS thread, I'd be talking about the LDS church.
Of course America has its problems. But that is to be expected in any human endeavor. But I believe humanity is better off today than it was 1000 years ago and America is better off today than it was 100 years ago. There is so much good in our country and in this world, its important to not let the clouds of dispair cloud our vision. Let there be Light. Where there is Light, there is reason for hope and optimism.
There have been local, visible, manifestations of the Church throughout Church history. Roman Catholics tried for over 1600 years to stamp them out, but they have persevered nonetheless, and have grown and prospered (Jesus stated that the "gates of hell" would not prevail against them.)
You could pick-up a copy of Foxe's Book of Martyrs to get a record of their existence.
As far as a name, street address, or telephone number, may I suggest that you look in your local Yellow Pages, under the heading: "Churches, Baptist".
You remind me of my cousin Mable. She's got to stick her nose into everyone's business, tell them that THEY ARE WRONG. Her problem was that everyone told her she was "so smart" when she was growing up. She believed them. They were just being nice. Let the Catholics have their fun, they're harmless. Last I checked, they weren't lacing envelopes with anthrax.
Nah, can't be.
Incidentally, I was very pleased that the Pope's apology in Greece was broad enough to cover all of that, not just the Sack of Constantinople.
I'm not talking about Catholics, but the RC church. There is a difference. And the RC church is not harmless. The RC church seems to proud to be in bed with Islam. Do you not see that this is not harmless?
LOL......There seems to be confusion between the visible church and reliance on the buildings,membership,rules and tradition...and the invisible church
Revelation 3 5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. 7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
I know next to nothing about the Orthodox church; nothing of her doctrine.
The RC Church has demonstrated during my lifetime and especially under JPII to be on the right side of innumerable issues. In my book, they've earned the right to a benefit of doubt. Before I went around with accusations that they "are in bed with Islam," I would ask a representative of the Church for an explanation as to what their official position is. Just as their position was over stem cells, I'm sure it is amply justified from a philosophical/theological standpoint. It could even be that this is not a complete explanation of the Church's view. As I've found with most of their teachings, there are many complexities involved which I personally find problematic. I prefer non-political straight forward talk. There seems to be an effort by some elements within the RCC to pander leftward in an effort to not offend. I suspect "these elements" may be at work in this instance. Overall, I still say they can share the trench with me in our battle against the evil doers of this world.
841 The Churches relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; those profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day,"Acknowledging the Creator without a saving faith in Christ is entirely damnable:The Islamic belief in the virginity of Mary puts to shame the heretical beliefs of those who call themselves Christian, while denying the perpetual virginity of Mary. Make no mistake about it, there is a very special relationship between the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Moslems!
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well. The devils also believe -- and tremble.I would actually have more respect for Rome if she had maintained her earlier position that as THE Church anybody outside of her could not obtain salvation. But, like so many things, she has revealed herself as a wide gateway. By taking the position that she has, she is essentially saying that membership in THE Church is unimportant.Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved."
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son, that all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father who hath sent Him.
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