Posted on 10/16/2001 5:06:51 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
The Senate already passed the terror bill last week, 96-1.
If that's the case, Hidy, then why won't you debate the facts in the death of Ron Brown? I keep challenging you to do it and you NEVER EVER respond. What's the problem?
Are you afraid you can't spin the SWORN TESTIMONY of the pathologists and photographer at the examination of his body who say he had what appeared to be a bullet wound in the top of his head? Afraid you won't be able to come up with any credible witnesses to dismiss their accusation (because I know you won't be able too)?
Afraid you won't be able to explain the x-ray and photo of Brown's head which appears to cooberate that hypothesis? Afraid you can't tell us what happened to the original copies of the x-ray and photos (from a locked safe at AFIP)?
Afraid you won't be able to counter the evidence showing that the management of AFIP lied on multiple occasions about the evidence and the opinions of its staff? Afraid you can't tell us why they order no autopsy when the pathologists at the examination were calling for one?
Afraid you have no answer for the question of why there was no Air Force Crash Safety Board (for the first time in Air Force history ... other than a clear case of friendly fire in Iraq)? Afraid to discuss why the Air Force declared it due to pilot error and weather before ANY on-site investigation had begun?
Afraid that you'll be unable to explain the missing portable beacon, the article by Aviation Week detailing how that beacon could have been used to make the plane fly into the mountain as it did, and the unusual "suicide" of the airport mechanic (who was in charge of that beacon) only days after the crash and before he could be interviewed?
Afraid you can't explain the timeline provided to Warren Christopher that said there were 2 survivors ... not just the one who curiously survived the crash and many hours on the ground only to die on the way to the hospital under a doctor's "care"? Afraid to explore why that survivor's body was cremated before even the family was notified of her death (against regulations)?
Afraid to explain how the U.S. Air Force and Croatian Minister of Transportation could both initially mistake anything on a plane for black boxes (they are very uniquely marked and both organizations confirmed they had been found) and a week later claim the plane didn't have any? Afraid that you won't be able to come up with a credible lie how a plane with no black box was allowed to fly not only Brown but the Sec Def and First "Lady" just weeks before (a violation of Air Force regulations)?
Afraid that you won't even be able to tell us why your hero Hillary used the plane only a week before the fateful "crash" to go to the same small airport in the middle of nowhere (what a coincidence)? Was that perhaps just after Brown (according to sworn testimony) told Bill that he was going to turn state's evidence in the Pearson probe into allegations of campaign finance violations (involving treasonable actions)?
And that's only half the suspicious items you will have to address in the death of Ron Brown if we debate. But no, like all good democRATS, you will undoubtedly run from the Brown facts, like democRATS ALWAYS do. Coward.
And as far a proving there was a crime, all that needs to happen is for Brown's body to be exhumed and autopsied (preferrably with some of the whistleblowing pathologists in attendance so we can trust the outcome). I imagine it would take only a week or two. Even after 6 or 7 years, if there was a bullet in his head, the metal fragments or slug and exit wound will still be there. THAT'S what people like you really fear because then there would be undeniable proof that a mass murder was committed and that the Clinton administration covered it up. Then all that would be needed would be to tie the loose ends together and identify who ordered the killing. And I'm sure that some of those AFIP managers who demonstrably lied about the evidence would be happy to give us a clue given that covering up a mass murder is a VERY serious offense. Don't you think?
This and what we've seen from the likes here at FR , that you and "Alamo -Girl" compiled , regarding the traitors are just beyond belief.......sort of like 9-11-01 was... .............Stay Safe !
In the old days we called posters like this disruptors.
Note how he starts making accusations that are not even on this thread. This is an attempt to change to subject. Typical tactics of disruption.
Whoa, looks like you are using very good bait, my friend. You have recorded several strikes from that certain species of fish know as Clintonas Defenderass.
OK, here goes:
Where to find the info I refered to......go to Washington-Weekly.com and search the word "anthrax"......... for the particular article I used as reference for post #7, go to...... Washington-Weekly.com/apr01-96/anthrax .......there you will find testimony by Welch himself that it was the Doctor treating him who suggested that he was sprayed in the face with "military grade" anthrax. But Welch himself could not remember any such occurance, and decided that the only source, that he could think of, were some envelopes used to mail out and receive back evidence, etc. It is interesting to note that some military grade anthrax is immune to antibiotics, so it was more likely to be high grade industrial, read research, anthrax.
This is important! Washington Weekly is set to close down on October 29th. It is perhaps one of the finest watch-dog sites ever to grace the internet. Everyone should e-mail Washington Weekly and encourage the very able Editor, Marvin Lee to reconsider, or at the very least, leave the archives up on the internet, as they are so extremely valuable to research and information.
Now some info for Hidybeast and one_particular_dupe:
One thing the Clinton-butt-kissers cannot disprove is the overwhelmingly long list of dead people, who at one time or another, were some kind of a threat to the Clintons. That these people are lying in their graves, and that there is ample proof that they were in some way a threat to the Clintons is irrefutable.
Mr. Clinton, and his wife as well, have both been proven in courts, in congressional testimony, by testimony of individuals, and by many of those who worked in and around the couple.....to be unethical, deceitful, dishonest, and at times brutal, white collar criminals. And I haven't yet included the 1st Ammendment "Clinton hater" watch-dog media, which for several years has been trying to inform thick-headed "Cinton dupes" about the insidous criminal nature of the couple.
The Clintons are not in jail because of these reasons:
1. Clinton politized and corrupted the Executive Branch.
2. The Democrats in Congress went along with the corruption, thereby thwarting any effective remedy.
3. The big liberal media went along also, periodically getting the Clintons up a tree, throwing rocks at them, and then helping them back down out of the tree, to further enable the couple to continue their criminal activities.
4. Blackmail, bribery and threats (this is in addition to all the dead people). Judges, witnesses, jouralists, jurists, member of Congress, etc, etc, etc, etc.
5. The dead list that just continues to grow. The deaths that just infuriate me occured just before the voting by the U.S. Senate on whether to remove Mr. Clinton from office. The Senate secretary (I believe that was his title), who was known and beloved by all the Senators, and his lovely wife, were run down by a car as they walked beside a street close to the Capital. Do I know for sure if it was murder? No. Do I know that it had a chilling effect on the Democrat Senators just prior to one of the most important Senate votes in the history of this country? Yes. Even though in this instance, the persons were not a threat to the Clintons, the deaths sent a chill down what was left of the spines of the Senate Democrats. AND, their votes were perhaps the most serious threat to the Clintons. If these two deaths were standing alone, there would be no suspicion warranted, but they do not stand alone. There are hundreds of others.
The threat to our Constitution was not the crisis of removing a corrupt U.S. President from office. The constitutional crisis, that continues to this day, was..... leaving a corrupt U.S. President in office.
The question of whether Mr. Clinton and his wife are corrupt..............well, there is no question.
I wish you mucho happy days fishing for dupes.
Do you think the traitorous clintons and their trolls would be doing this to wipe out the government so that bloody bill can take over again?
I believe that the clintons and their trolls are sick enough to do this..but could it really be possible? Surely not.
Possible but not probable.
Ties a lot of names, events, and places together. Long, but worth it.
Lying Under Oath as President - 2 times ~ Lying Under Oath as Governor - 5 times ~ Lying Under Oath as Attorney General ~ Lying Under Oath in a Deposition ~ Lying Under Oath to a Grand Jury ~ Lying Under Oath as a Lawyer ~ Abuse of Power ~ Obstruction of Justice ~ Deriliction of Duty ~ Bribe Solicitation ~ Taking Bribes ~ Bribery of Cabinent Members ~ Bribery of State Officials ~ Treason ~ Corruption ~ Coersion ~ False Swearing ~ Malfeasance of Office ~ Perjury ~ Subornation of Perjury ~ Criminal Trespass ~ Witness Intimidation ~ Witness Tampering ~ Jury Tampering ~ Ethics Violations ~ Intentional Interference in the Administration of Justice ~ Misrepresentation ~ Civil Contempt of Court ~ Criminal Contempt of Court ~ Contempt of Congress ~ Contempt of the American People ~ High Crimes ~ Misdemeanors ~ Deception ~ False Testimony ~ Factually False Testimony ~ Misconduct ~ Serious Misconduct ~ Professional Misconduct ~ Notorious Misconduct ~ Obstruction of the Judicial Process ~ Recklessness ~ Grand Larceny ~ Extortion ~ Blackmail~ Substance Abuse ~ Evidence Suppression ~ Illegal Foriegn Campaign Funding ~ Improper Exports of Sensitve Technology ~ Attempted Intimidation of Prosecutors ~ Destruction of Business Records with Intent to Defraud ~ Failure to Investigate Drug Trafficking ~ Real Estate Fraud ~ Criminalizing Frauds on Financial Institutions ~ Use of State Police for Personal Purposes ~ Illegal Loan Extraction ~ False Reports by Medical Examiners and Others Investigating Suspicious Deaths ~ Improper Futures Trading ~ Illegal Use of the Executive Branch ~ Character Defamation ~ Voter Fraud ~ Racketeering ~ Destruction of Evidence ~ Political Espionage ~ Money Laundering ~ Criminal Negligence ~ RICO Conspiracy ~ Misuse of Government Files ~ Desecration of Federal Ethics Laws ~ Judicial Intimidation ~ Conflict of Interests ~ Illegal Campaign Activity ~ Misuse of Corporate Assets ~ Ordering Politically Motivated Audits ~ Ordering Politically Motivated Investigations ~ Timing of War Influenced by Political Considerations ~ Misapplying Funds ~ Conspiracy to Defraud the Federal Government ~ Criminal Violation of the Privacy Act ~ Conspiracy to Conceal ~ Evisceration of the Right to Habeas Corpus ~ Misuse of Taxpayer Funds ~ Interfering with a Court Order ~ Theft of Government Property ~ Abuse of Taxpayer Financed Travel ~ Anti-American Espionage ~ Jeopardizing National Security ~ Aiding and Abetting Drug Traffic ~ Aiding and Abetting Organized Crime ~ Murder by Accessory by Witness Tampering ~ Murder by Accessory by Forgery ~ Foreign Influence Peddling ~ Regular Influence Peddling ~ Corrupting Public Discourse ~ Providing False and Misleading Testimony ~ Interferring with a Custody Case ~ Kidnapping by Accessory ~ Child Endangerment ~ Sexual Harassment ~ Indecent Exposure ~ Sexual Abuse of Employees ~ Lewd and Lascivious Conduct ~ Exchange of Promotions or Benefits for Sexual Favors ~ Sexual Assault ~ Statutory Rape ~ Contributing to the Delinquincy of a Minor ~ Unfit to hold a law license ~ Conduct Unbecoming a President ~ Squandering the Public Trust
Who exactly "found him innocent"? Surely you can't mean the Senate not convicting him in the impeachment trial.
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