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The soft war against masculinity
Washington Times ^ | 10/18/01 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 10/17/2001 11:41:54 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:47:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

If you are a heterosexual male of any race, tear yourself away from the war on terrorism and let Howard S. Schwartz inform you of your real enemy. His book, "The Revolt of the Primitive: An Inquiry into the Roots of Political Correctness," has just been released by Praeger Publishers in Westport, Conn. The book is a bombshell.


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To: NEPA
You're right, I was just fired up when I posted my reply.
21 posted on 10/18/2001 6:39:42 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: DWSUWF
AND BEER.......LOTS OF BEER!!!!!
22 posted on 10/18/2001 6:42:27 AM PDT by kahoutek
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To: OneidaM
I have no problem with guys who are a.h.s getting slammed hard when they go over the line. My only "requirement" is that they really are going over the line. If this guy was, then he got what he deserved.
23 posted on 10/18/2001 7:16:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Arabesque
Yep, you're right. Steve is Kokie's husband, not Paul Craig. Thanks.
24 posted on 10/18/2001 7:17:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: ncpastor
Exactly!
25 posted on 10/18/2001 7:18:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kattracks
The feminist-inspired anti-sexual harassment jihad in the military has been the American equivalent of Mao's horribly destructive and wanton Great Cultural Revolution. Feminists have gravely injured the warrior culture.

The vast technological superiority of our weaponry still masks the damage most of the time, but there will be repeated instances such as our recent dithering failure to take out Mullah Omar, the enemy's leader, where the injury to the warrior culture will be made glaringly manifest. As a direct result our men (and women) will die unnecessarily.

26 posted on 10/18/2001 7:21:16 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: kahoutek
"...AND BEER.......LOTS OF BEER!!!!!..."

Yes, but...

Only in those cases where an overwhelming, massive, 'first strike' use of force is required can the silent but deadly Beer Fart be justified.

There are limits, sir... even in war.

27 posted on 10/18/2001 7:23:14 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: OneidaM
He did create a hostile environment.

You know what? War is a hostile environment. Effective warriors are men (not women--despite the Whoreywood fantasies to the contrary) who are suited to exhibiting controlled aggression and extreme hostility.

If you decapitate the military by booting out its warriors for not being touchy-feely "sensitive" to feminists, gays, lesbians, bestials, and every other category of culture rot, you compromise the lives of the airmen, soldiers, and sailors on the field of battle.

I never thought I would say this, but I have come fully around on the issue: we must get women out of the military NOW. The only exception should be to allow them to serve in strictly support positions and non-combat related roles where they are not brought into more than incidental everyday contact with the fighters and warriors.

28 posted on 10/18/2001 7:36:40 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Hugh Akston
Frankly, were I a sexually abused woman, I am not sure I would really want to tell the world about the indignities forced upon me.

Possibly because they were lies, or because your behavior had invited them, or....

A very classic case of "sexual harrassment" occurred at my workplace. A female hired because of nepotism, who's favorite word was f..., whose favorite rejoinder to a request was f... you, used to run around our facility teasing and flirting with the largely male staff. One day, somebody said something that got her little panties in a wad. So she went to HR and claimed sexual harassment.

She subsequently (about a year later) seduced her "harrasser", got knocked up and broke up his marriage. Obviously she felt severely negatively towards this person, right? Bullpuckey. She was and is a spoiled, heartless brat.

I have zip for faith in vague allegations. It's either facts or opinions. All this "hostile work environment" crap is exactly what the article's author is talking about. Quid pro quo harassment deserves to be punished. But "I'm upset because you make me feel uncomfortable" ? Get another job or shut up.

29 posted on 10/18/2001 7:45:05 AM PDT by jimt
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To: OneidaM
I suppose we'll have to take your word for the harrassment chage Oneida. I'm sure a lot of this was covered in administrative proceedings and I can appreciate the fact that you may not be able to comment in detail.

OTOH you must see how easy it is to come to the conclusion that he was sacrificed on the altar of political correctness and for those of us who only have newspaper accounts to go on it seems that the charges against him were pretty thin.

If you feel like you can fill in any details for us I urge you to do so. If you can't, we'll understand as well.

30 posted on 10/18/2001 7:45:45 AM PDT by 12B
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To: jimt
Possibly because they were lies, or because your behavior had invited them, or....
No, those would not be possibilities in my hypothetical, because I would still be me and I do not do those things.

OneidaM has been here a long time, and has established credibility. Perhaps not in your eyes, but that is fine. You don't have to believe her.

I do.

Those who know her do.

Those who trust our assessment of her do.

And even if the posters originally did not, that does not excuse their lack of manners and civility.

31 posted on 10/18/2001 8:21:33 AM PDT by Hugh Akston
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To: Kevin Curry; OneidaM
we must get women out of the military NOW.

What a load of crap! I served 12 years on active duty and I had no problem at all with the women I served with.

32 posted on 10/18/2001 3:49:17 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: jimt; OneidaM
Possibly because they were lies, or because your behavior had invited them, or....

What an awful thing to say. I am appalled and very angry at such an allegation.

33 posted on 10/18/2001 3:55:29 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: kattracks
The virulent form of feminism attacks male sexuality and has succeeded in criminalizing masculinity itself.

Feminism understands neither real femininity or real masculinity. It would be nice to see someone point out that femininty is also threatened by feminism.

Men need to do a better job at communicating exactly what masculinity is, and how it differs from femininity.

34 posted on 10/18/2001 3:57:30 PM PDT by independentmind
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To: RadioAstronomer
What a load of crap! I served 12 years on active duty and I had no problem at all with the women I served with.

That's the PC line. The truth is otherwise. In and of themselves, the women are not a problem. In and of themselves, the men are not a problem. Mix them together in a war-fighting culture, add the poison of feminism, and you will experience continuous and serious problems. That's exactly what happened throughout the 1990s.

You've bought deeply into the lie. There are still dyed-in-wool Marxists meandering about in Russia, too, who had no problem with communism. I wouldn't credit their PC indignation any more than I credit yours.

Go back to looking for quasars. People problems are beyond your ken.

35 posted on 10/18/2001 4:58:56 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Fair Paul
i DO BELIEVE THAT WHILE WHITE MEN WERE OVERWHELMING REPRESENTED AS HEROES ON 9/11 (AND RIGHTFULLYSO) THERE WERE WOMEN WHO ALSO PERFORMED ABOVE AND BEYOND. i BELIEVE THE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS OF FLIGHT 93 ATTEST TO THAT FACT.
36 posted on 10/18/2001 9:07:49 PM PDT by jonna
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To: Kevin Curry
You've bought deeply into the lie

That is not what I experienced while I was in. And yes I love looking for quasars :)

37 posted on 10/18/2001 9:13:33 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: jonna
i DO BELIEVE THAT WHILE WHITE MEN WERE OVERWHELMING REPRESENTED AS HEROES ON 9/11 (AND RIGHTFULLYSO) THERE WERE WOMEN WHO ALSO PERFORMED ABOVE AND BEYOND. i BELIEVE THE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS OF FLIGHT 93 ATTEST TO THAT FACT

OKAY!! Don't yell at us!...and do something about that low self-esteem thing and capitalize your ' I 's.
or just turn off your cap-locks :-}

38 posted on 10/18/2001 9:42:40 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: OneidaM
I am merely stating, without opening and refreshing some long ago healed wounds,he picked the wrong case in an attempt to firm up his argument.

Apparently these wounds you speak of were not deep enough to restrain you from coming out of your personal tragedy long enough to take another swing at Hallums, and without giving any substantive idea of what engendered such animosity.

I wonder what your assessment of General George Patton would have been? I have no doubt you and others found his behaviour objectionable. What I question is the distinctly feminine notion that people have a right to be comfortable, and the lack of said comfort is an actionable offense when it can be traced to a specific individual.

I find the canard "sometimes words hurt like a fist" to be specious. Fists hurt like fists, and the only way to conflate words and fists is with a breathtaking exercise of petulance and vanity. Thus far, my fourty years of experience with this type of vanity has come exclusively from women.

39 posted on 10/18/2001 11:59:00 PM PDT by Woahhs
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To: OneidaM
You're missing an essential point - the ability of feral femhogs to make general charges - insubstantiated by evidence, not subject to rebuttal and cross-exanination by the accused - and take down a man they don't like. The pernicious idea that "women don't lie about these things" is laughable. Bring out specific charges, and we'll have orderly procedures of adjudication. Anita Hill sought to "strike from cover" in her attacks on Mr. Justice Thomas - when she was forced to be specific, she became a subjrct of humor and well-eservd scorn. If you think you can get away with what you've attempted - general character assassination, no specifics - you've mistaken about where you are. Try again.
40 posted on 10/19/2001 12:13:57 AM PDT by 185JHP
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