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A PC Nation Cannot Survive Amoungst A World of Aggressors
Vanity | 10-20-01 | S. Fleming

Posted on 10/20/2001 10:12:17 AM PDT by mercy

Perhaps our nations PC attitudes and actions in this time of war are not what they seem. Maybe our top elected officials (right now I'm not willing to call them leaders) have employed a cover designed to fool the outside world and cover our true objectives. It could be that our actual objective is to buy time while we take control of Afghanistan in order to establish massive forward positions and bases for the 'real war' that is so obviously unavoidable. Islamists world wide are plainly taking over nearly all Muslim countries and World War is their plain objective.

If our present actions ARE disinformation and deceit designed to gain time and position for the necessary massive assaults to come ... I applaud them. I am even willing to absorb the consequences to gain the advantage we must have to fight a war against millions, hundreds of millions, of hostile barbarians now assembling against us and presently prosecuting a terror war possibly to include a war of mass distruction. Those consequences include but are not limited to leaving ourselves open to further massive terror attacks on me and my country. Even if the Islamists (let's no longer call them JUST terrorists) do not have real 'suitcase nukes' they DO have 'dirty nukes'. A dirty nuke is just a bunch of plastique wrapped up in plutonium or other nuclear material. Results equal massive radiation poisoning.

I guess that in order to lull the world, most of which either openly or secretly resents, if not hates us, into momentary inaction our nation is not now taking ordinary common sense actions. Actions like deporting all non citizen Middle Eastern visitors post haste. Not only are we not deporting we are not stopping present infiltration of Islamist terrorists. It looks to me like this is deemed necessary 'for now' by those in control of us for these time buying tactics. I guess our elected officials are afraid that any such common sense actions on our part right now would tip our hand in establishing forward bases in Afghanistan.

OK I can live with this. For a very little while. Even though the chances of the Islamist terrorists killing many MORE thousands of us in the near or not so near future are around one hundred percent.

But all of this is just wishful thinking I am pretty near sure.I think the actual reality is that Political Correctness is become the death of us. What IS PC really when practiced in the face of international aggression prosecuted by an organised multi-national coalition of professional killers? It's just plain ole cowardice. That's all it is.

PC used to be just about cultural disagreements and common arguements about philosophy and mores. It had some validity when discussing affirmative action or gay marriage. It has no validity when it assumes the fore in an effort at plain geo-political survival. Geo-political ascendence, or position jockying ....? ok. Politics and diplomacy are all right when you're trying to remain a nation of nice guys and prove it to the world. Though it is a losing game on that level as well.

But now PCness is suicide. A plain and simple death wish. If we and our elected officials have let PCness be our banner now, with the assembled masses of the Islamist killers at our throats, and it is not just a momentary cover, it is DENIAL practiced on a cosmic scale.

I am going to add one more thought that I DO NOT ADVOCATE but is a real possibility. If our ELECTED officials are not willing to perform the FIRST duty of an oganised society ... that is: Do what is plainly necessary to insure a common defense. Then I am sure there are still many members of the military who ARE willing. IF this gets just a little worse and our controllers continue waffling and failing in the face of the enemy ... our very Republic is in danger for the people will not go quietly. The military WILL be turned loose. I just hope they took that oath to the Constitution serriously and will reestablish the Republic after the war.


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To: mercy
A few comments that cost you nothing so that may be all they are worth. I am not a student of the Middle East, Islam, the Arabs or their culture in general.

The world has changed from the horse and buggy mentality to global or worldwide implications. What may not have been dreamed or thought about a hundred years or so ago is now reality. Thus to me we will never go back to the comfort of what we knew even in my beginning years. We as a nation, as a society, as a world will have interactions with each other that can bring almost instant repercussions either positive or negative.

Now are we prepared to deal with that as a nation? I don’t know but as you point out we may not be. We didn’t get where we are overnight and I don’t think we can turn this ship of state around overnight. Thus can we win or survive long enough to be in position to handle the war as you see coming. It is my fervent hope we can.

I see events like this present one unfolding as each group tries to unleash their form of world dominance. The question is can they pull enough groups together to pull it off. I don’t know but I suspect they have differences of opinion within their various factions such that they will not join in a total alliance to dominate.

Things will be forever changed for us. I hope we as a nation can learn to adapt quickly. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and inviting me to respond.

101 posted on 10/20/2001 4:21:47 PM PDT by deport
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To: mercy
We should have had a Presidential speech mentioning a considered nuclear attack in response to such infamy by now.

Bush always understates and always ends up getting what he wants. It has been our policy to use nukes, if needed and if we are under chem/bio attack. The leadership of every nation on earth is well aware of that. Bush will mention that policy when it will do us some good to do so.

102 posted on 10/20/2001 8:59:04 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
bump
103 posted on 10/20/2001 11:37:33 PM PDT by real saxophonist
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To: Sabramerican
"If the "war" ends in a cave in Afghanistan, the rest of our enemies will laugh...and the countdown to WWIII will continue"

This already is World War III.

104 posted on 10/20/2001 11:43:32 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
DITTO.
105 posted on 10/20/2001 11:46:16 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Capitalist Eric
"Illegal aliens do NOT enjoy the protections offered by the Constitution."

Unfortunately, they do enjoy the protection of a rogue judiciary, a corrupt Democratic Party, and a cowardly Republican Party.

Oh yeah... and the UN.

106 posted on 10/20/2001 11:48:27 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: FITZ; mercy
It doesn't matter how many bombs we drop on Afghanistan, the enemy has already inflitrated our homeland.

They pulled off 9-11, they are running a "probe" of our defenses with the mailed anthrax, and will soon be up to new tricks, such as running a 20,000 gallon tanker truck of gasoline into the lobby of a building at 80MPH. We are only in the opening stages of this war, and our deadliest enemies are living down the street.

107 posted on 10/20/2001 11:51:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Sabertooth
****Unfortunately, they do enjoy the protection of a rogue judiciary, a corrupt Democratic Party, and a cowardly Republican Party. ****

Boy! You can say that again. No wait, I'll do it for you.

Unfortunately, they do enjoy the protection of a rogue judiciary, a corrupt Democratic Party, and a cowardly Republican Party.

108 posted on 10/20/2001 11:55:45 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Travis McGee
A probe .... hmmmmm Hadn't thought of that. 'Twould explain why so tentative and why such small amounts when so much intel says they have mounds of the stuff.

I really cannot believe how complacent so many are. Gotta be scared stiff denial.

109 posted on 10/20/2001 11:58:59 PM PDT by mercy
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To: World'sGoneInsane
"I don't agree with you. I don't believe that this is Islam vs. the US. The terrorists have distorted their religion, just as we have seen some cult leaders do with other religions."

I've gone from thinking that "moderate, peaceful" Moslems were the Isalmic silent majority on 9/10, to hoping they were on 9/12, to being now resigned to the fact that they are an insignificant irrelevancy within the world of Islam.

President Bush said, "either you're for us, or you're for the terrorists." I don't hear a whole lot of Moslems speaking out very strongly against the events of 9/11. Half the Islamic world thinks that a Zionist conspiracy took down the Twin Towers. A good chunk of the rest thinks America did it. I haven't got much use for such people.

But I'm an open-minded guy, so here's my final offer to any "moderate" mullahs out there:

Roll out a big fat fatwa against bin Laden, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, PFLP, Sadaam Hussein and family, etc. and bring me their heads on pikes.

Do that, and I'll buy lunch.

110 posted on 10/21/2001 12:07:07 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Very well said. BUMP. The mosques of America should encourage their people that they had better put the red white and blue 'mark' on themselves and their abodes because the angel of death is gonna start fly-bys pretty soon.
111 posted on 10/21/2001 12:11:50 AM PDT by mercy
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To: mercy
They won't. They love Islam more than they love America. So sooner or later, they're going to hate us.

Islam is a death cult.

112 posted on 10/21/2001 12:19:44 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: mercy
Exactly right. Political correctness represents a severe weakness for our side, while being a valuable tool and strength for our enemies. PC policies will indeed be the death of us, that's why IT must die along with terrorism. If the Bush Administration or the government bows to this suicidally stupid, insane philosophy, we will not only lose this war, but forever be plagued by endless terrorism, but disillusionment, despiritment, and eventual defeat. Piss on political correctness and all of its stupid adherents. The quickest way to lose this war and bury future American children under another ground zero of terrorist destruction is to placate, appease, and play games with these conciousless, malignant, poachers of human life; the scum of the earth. Americans will NOT tolerate another damned Vietnam or worse.
113 posted on 10/21/2001 12:23:52 AM PDT by Imperial Warrior
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To: mercy
These guys are persistant. They killed about 10 in the 1993 WTC bombing attempt, and came back in 2001 and killed 5,000.

I would expect their use of bio weapons to follow a similar track as they perfect their delivery system.

114 posted on 10/21/2001 12:28:50 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Imperial Warrior
Well gee IW don't hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel. hehehe A man after my own heart.
115 posted on 10/21/2001 12:33:53 AM PDT by mercy
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To: Travis McGee
Hoo boy. I almost feel guilty that I live WAY out in the sticks. Almost. I sure hope Cheney is on the stick. I think W is listening to the wrong people. I REALLY can not believe that Isreal has been living with this for decades now. I'm nearly advocating use of nukes already and its been ..... what, a little over a month? There's a lot of people in this country that won't take much more of this. They'll snap and I know who they're gonna go postal on. Unfortunatly it won't do any good.
116 posted on 10/21/2001 12:42:11 AM PDT by mercy
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To: mercy; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thanks for the heads up. I can NOT honestly say I disagree with what you have said. Well written and thought out. Much food for thought here.
117 posted on 10/21/2001 1:18:39 AM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas
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To: KirklandJunction
How can we generalize the Muslim who prays five times a day

****

She ain't a Christian.

118 posted on 10/21/2001 5:25:48 AM PDT by Hit & Run Poster
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To: Travis McGee
The only thing I really want to see is the deportation of all Middle East Muslims who have come to this country in the past 10 years especially those who are not citizens. I don't want a national ID card, I don't want the constant living in fear, I don't care about their "rights"----according to their precious Koran they aren't supposed to be living amid infidels in the first place so we should help them out and get them back to and keep them in Islamic countries where they can practice their religion and hate all they want.
119 posted on 10/21/2001 7:33:53 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: mercy
bttt
120 posted on 10/21/2001 7:35:22 AM PDT by Don Myers
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