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A PC Nation Cannot Survive Amoungst A World of Aggressors
Vanity | 10-20-01 | S. Fleming

Posted on 10/20/2001 10:12:17 AM PDT by mercy

Perhaps our nations PC attitudes and actions in this time of war are not what they seem. Maybe our top elected officials (right now I'm not willing to call them leaders) have employed a cover designed to fool the outside world and cover our true objectives. It could be that our actual objective is to buy time while we take control of Afghanistan in order to establish massive forward positions and bases for the 'real war' that is so obviously unavoidable. Islamists world wide are plainly taking over nearly all Muslim countries and World War is their plain objective.

If our present actions ARE disinformation and deceit designed to gain time and position for the necessary massive assaults to come ... I applaud them. I am even willing to absorb the consequences to gain the advantage we must have to fight a war against millions, hundreds of millions, of hostile barbarians now assembling against us and presently prosecuting a terror war possibly to include a war of mass distruction. Those consequences include but are not limited to leaving ourselves open to further massive terror attacks on me and my country. Even if the Islamists (let's no longer call them JUST terrorists) do not have real 'suitcase nukes' they DO have 'dirty nukes'. A dirty nuke is just a bunch of plastique wrapped up in plutonium or other nuclear material. Results equal massive radiation poisoning.

I guess that in order to lull the world, most of which either openly or secretly resents, if not hates us, into momentary inaction our nation is not now taking ordinary common sense actions. Actions like deporting all non citizen Middle Eastern visitors post haste. Not only are we not deporting we are not stopping present infiltration of Islamist terrorists. It looks to me like this is deemed necessary 'for now' by those in control of us for these time buying tactics. I guess our elected officials are afraid that any such common sense actions on our part right now would tip our hand in establishing forward bases in Afghanistan.

OK I can live with this. For a very little while. Even though the chances of the Islamist terrorists killing many MORE thousands of us in the near or not so near future are around one hundred percent.

But all of this is just wishful thinking I am pretty near sure.I think the actual reality is that Political Correctness is become the death of us. What IS PC really when practiced in the face of international aggression prosecuted by an organised multi-national coalition of professional killers? It's just plain ole cowardice. That's all it is.

PC used to be just about cultural disagreements and common arguements about philosophy and mores. It had some validity when discussing affirmative action or gay marriage. It has no validity when it assumes the fore in an effort at plain geo-political survival. Geo-political ascendence, or position jockying ....? ok. Politics and diplomacy are all right when you're trying to remain a nation of nice guys and prove it to the world. Though it is a losing game on that level as well.

But now PCness is suicide. A plain and simple death wish. If we and our elected officials have let PCness be our banner now, with the assembled masses of the Islamist killers at our throats, and it is not just a momentary cover, it is DENIAL practiced on a cosmic scale.

I am going to add one more thought that I DO NOT ADVOCATE but is a real possibility. If our ELECTED officials are not willing to perform the FIRST duty of an oganised society ... that is: Do what is plainly necessary to insure a common defense. Then I am sure there are still many members of the military who ARE willing. IF this gets just a little worse and our controllers continue waffling and failing in the face of the enemy ... our very Republic is in danger for the people will not go quietly. The military WILL be turned loose. I just hope they took that oath to the Constitution serriously and will reestablish the Republic after the war.


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To: LarryLied
"It has been our policy to use nukes, if needed and if we are under chem/bio attack. The leadership of every nation on earth is well aware of that. "

That has already happened. And we did nothing. Our response has been conventional.

121 posted on 10/21/2001 7:37:22 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Sabertooth
I understand what you are saying. If they are not against us, then many of the community leaders could be helping by fingering the ones that have "distorted" their religion. For all we know, maybe they are working with the authorities.

I believe there are Muslims who have no part in terrorism. Jimmy Jones and his Kool-Aid cult distorted Christianity, just as I believe Bin Laden has done to Islam.

My biggest point though is that Bin Laden would love nothing better than for us to make it us against all of them. I don't feel he has any big following compared to the number of Muslims in the world. If people want to start attacking all Muslims, then all of them will be dragged into it. We would then be obliging him with the Jihad he wanted.

I have no problem with taking extra precautions with swarmy looking people, be they mid-eastern, mediterranean, etc., as they travel. I do have a problem with pointing a finger at a whole group of people that had their religion hijacked from them, when a minority of followers hijacked our planes.

122 posted on 10/21/2001 7:55:10 AM PDT by World'sGoneInsane
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To: Don Myers
I believe we'll use nukes if needed. First things first.
123 posted on 10/21/2001 9:03:49 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: clamper1797
I regret to disagree, but I feel direct confrontation, especially if done publicly, only steels their resolve to stick to their illogical agenda.

IMHO, subtle, amused disbelief works well because it causes them to privately question their own beliefs.

To each his own, as long as we all resist political correctness in our own way, we will make gains.

124 posted on 10/21/2001 9:23:54 AM PDT by copycat
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To: World'sGoneInsane
**** I believe there are Muslims who have no part in terrorism. Jimmy Jones and his Kool-Aid cult distorted Christianity, just as I believe Bin Laden has done to Islam.****

Be ware here. I also hear the left saying things like OBL is to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity. These false analogies are actually dangerous in the extreme.

The Islamist movement is SWEEPING the Moslem world. It is a revival of unparalled proportions never seen before in ANY religion. AND it is ligitimately fundamentalist in that it is harking back to the Islam of olden days. A more pure hewing to the actual actions and teaching of the criminal Mohammed.

It is in no way a small wrinkle in the fabric type movement like Jim Jones or an offshoot secret society like the KKK. It is at this moment more powerful than watered down western influenced Islam and soon to out number it as well.

125 posted on 10/21/2001 10:23:40 AM PDT by mercy
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To: Don Myers
****That has already happened. And we did nothing.****

Don't that have a familiar ring? As I emphasize in my vanity this limited action in Ashcanistan better be just and only the oppening salvo or were dead meat. If this is just another PC glory roll for the cameras and shoot for Affect rather than Effect ... our Islamist demons will only be strengthened.

126 posted on 10/21/2001 10:29:39 AM PDT by mercy
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To: Sabertooth
****Islam is a death cult.****

That IS good. We oughta put that up in lights somewhere.

ISLAM IS A DEATH CULT

127 posted on 10/21/2001 10:37:20 AM PDT by mercy
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To: LarryLied
"I believe we'll use nukes if needed. First things first."

IF they get serious about bio war, such as introducing small pox into our population, I believe our leaders will be faced with the choice of put up or shut up. And I suspect we are near that decision.

128 posted on 10/21/2001 12:44:13 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: mercy
"this limited action in Ashcanistan better be just and only the oppening salvo or were dead meat."

Honestly, I have my doubts as to whether we will do anything else after Afghanistan.

129 posted on 10/21/2001 12:45:24 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
I have worse than doubts. The big boys have let W know that just caused he slipped the leash in Ashcanistan he better not think he's now a free dog. "Don't make us use the Oswald stick you bad puppy."
130 posted on 10/21/2001 12:51:09 PM PDT by mercy
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To: mercy
Yeah, I think that the UN will pull up Bush by the short hairs.
131 posted on 10/21/2001 1:13:08 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
The UN may be the front but there HAS to be a hidden hand somewhere. The surface reality is getting so thin that the very fabric of our space/time continuem (sp?) is shape shifting like a bad acid trip.
132 posted on 10/21/2001 2:08:19 PM PDT by mercy
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To: mercy
"The surface reality is getting so thin that the very fabric of our space/time continuem (sp?) is shape shifting like a bad acid trip."

Anymore, people can't tell reality from fiction.

133 posted on 10/21/2001 2:15:05 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
****Anymore, people can't tell reality from fiction.****

Strike nail firmly and squarely with sharp blow! Exactly. This is no exageration. It's the plain damn truth.

134 posted on 10/21/2001 3:10:06 PM PDT by mercy
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To: copycat
And I will respectfully and RIGOROUSLY disagree with you.
135 posted on 10/21/2001 4:42:51 PM PDT by clamper1797
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To: Chad Fairbanks
That being said, I think PC and it's adherents (sp??) are one of the most dangerous forces currently within our nation.

I happen to like my PC. And it's never hurt anyone. Yet. ;-)
136 posted on 10/21/2001 5:01:08 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
heh heh heh...
137 posted on 10/22/2001 4:43:29 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: copycat
****MHO, subtle, amused disbelief works well because it causes them to privately question their own beliefs.****

Yes the persistent straight left hand jab in their face is effective but the overhand roundhouse right is necessary for the knockout blow. Now that the PC crowd is on the ropes, realing, we should go for the knockout blow. Make sure they do not get up again.

138 posted on 10/22/2001 8:55:08 AM PDT by mercy
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To: mercy
You're right, they won't quit even if you kill HALF of them. I think you know the answer. KILL 'EM ALL!
139 posted on 10/22/2001 8:57:15 AM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: Sabertooth
I'll help pay for that lunch, although I doubt it will EVER come to pass.
140 posted on 10/22/2001 8:59:14 AM PDT by Republic of Texas
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