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BLACK FLAGS of Islam -- Portents of the Imam al-Mahdi?
Various | 10/28/2001 | Sabertooth, others

Posted on 10/28/2001 3:58:18 PM PST by Sabertooth

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There has been much speculation since the attacks of 9/11. Why did this happen? What does Osama bin Laden want? Does he really hope to defeat the United States, even if he does have caves full of Weapons of Mass Destruction?

How?

Perhaps by rallying the Islamic world to his cause? He has declared a Holy War, a jihad, against the United Sates and Israel, vowing to banish us from the Arabian Penninsula and Israel from the Holy Land and Jerusalem, or we will be destroyed. Certainly he has captured the violent imagination of much of the Moslem world. But is it enough to be a master terrorist, a Warlord of Jihad? Or is Osama bin Laden aiming for loftier goals?

The more I read of him, the more it becomes clear that bin Laden sees himself as a Divinely appointed Liberator of Islam. I believe that he might be attempting to assume the mantle of the neo-messianic Imam al-Mahdi, the long-prophesied, long-awaited Twefth Imam.

So I did a little looking around, to see if I could find any of these "Black Flags" of the al-Mahdi prophesy. They aren't common, but they're there. Do they prove that this is bin Laden's plan? No.

But we know two things… He has a plan, and we haven't got a clue as to what it might be.

Or maybe we do.

I've gathered some pictures of Islamic radicals, jihadin allied with bin Laden's cause. They have Black Flags, but the flags not all identical. Is there a pattern here? Is this coincidence? I don't know. I'm hoping someone familiar with Arabic will be able to help translate some of the writings captured in the pictures. I'm also hoping others will use this thread to post pics of the Black Flags of Islam as they appear.

The pictures I've gathered here were mostly taken recently. I've tried to give that information where I've been able to determine it. I've also linked most of the pics to their source sites, just click and go. Maybe someone else will find things there that I've missed. At the top of the table, I've also provided a couple of links to existing threads on the subject of bin Laden's master plan.

Comments?


1 posted on 10/28/2001 3:58:18 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: harpseal; Travis McGee; Victoria Delsoul; Spirit Of Truth; Manny Festo; The Documentary Lady...
Black Flag
2 posted on 10/28/2001 4:00:23 PM PST by Sabertooth
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Black Flag
3 posted on 10/28/2001 4:01:25 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
I'll bump for that.
4 posted on 10/28/2001 4:03:39 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: Sabertooth
From what I've seen on the tv the Taliban flag is white. I thought it was kind of funny to see all their vehicles running around with white flags like they were surrendering. Am I wrong here?
5 posted on 10/28/2001 4:05:19 PM PST by Liberal Bob
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"Comments?"

hey bin Laden, you sissy, how come you hide in a cave and let your troops do your fighting?
having fun in there with the goats and the sissy boy virgins?
6 posted on 10/28/2001 4:05:36 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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Black Flag
7 posted on 10/28/2001 4:11:48 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Bumped and bookmarked! Thanx, tooth. Great post you've put together. Is Osama pig Laden the hidden twelfth Mahdi who disappeared hundreds of years ago, going down stairs to the basement of his dwelling? Tunnel rats, anyone?
8 posted on 10/28/2001 4:12:34 PM PST by MHGinTN
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From what I've seen on the tv the Taliban flag is white.... Am I wrong here?

No, you're not wrong. In fact posted the Taliban Flag just above the last pic of bin Laden.

At this time, the Taliban flags are white with an Arabic inscription in black. Don't know what that means yet.

That's why the black flags, if they appear, might be significant.

9 posted on 10/28/2001 4:15:33 PM PST by Sabertooth
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From an apparently Islamic site:

"According to these reliable, authentic, and universally accepted narrations, Mahdi will:

1. Be from among the family of Prophet(SAW), among the descendants of Fatima(RA);
2. Have a broad forehead and pointed nose;
3. Appear in one night;
4. Appear just before the day of judgment;
5. Have same name as hazrat Muhammad(SAW);
6. Escape from Madina to Makkah where people will pledge allegiance to him;
7. Receive pledge and help of Iraqi people;
8. Fight in battles;
9. Rule over the Arabs for seven years according to Sunnah;
10. Spread justice and equity on earth;
11. Eradicate tyranny and oppression;
12. Lead a prayer in Mekkah which Jesus(pbuh) will follow in;
13. NOT be the same individual as the Promised Messiah (Jesus)."

10 posted on 10/28/2001 4:15:35 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: MHGinTN
Doesn't really matter if he's actually the Twelfth Imam (if there ever is one), it matters if he thinks he is, and if he can convince enough other Moslems of his "Divine Mission."

I'm looking for some kind of a move during Ramadan.

11 posted on 10/28/2001 4:18:08 PM PST by Sabertooth
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I don't know about the rest of the list, but OBL surely can't lay claim to #10 and 11 . . .
12 posted on 10/28/2001 4:19:12 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the reply. It's these little things I hope our "intelligence" people are keeping up with.
13 posted on 10/28/2001 4:21:34 PM PST by Liberal Bob
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Give em a taste of this!

14 posted on 10/28/2001 4:22:04 PM PST by tet68
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To: Sabertooth
Excellent post.

We may over emphasize the person of bin Laden in all of this. But there is no doubt that Al-Qaeda intends to be the Mahdi's army of destiny. No doubt about it many believe bin Laden is the Mahdi.

15 posted on 10/28/2001 4:23:56 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: Sabertooth
I'm looking for some kind of a move during Ramadan.

An intriguing thought. If bin Laden were to show up at the Ka'aba during Ramadan, would the Saudi government dare to try to arrest him? Everything I've read suggests the Saudi government is deathly afraid of bin Laden and the militant Muslims who follow him.

16 posted on 10/28/2001 4:24:44 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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BUMP
17 posted on 10/28/2001 4:25:44 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Sabertooth
Check out the following website for more information about the black flag and muslim prophecy: http://www.rexresearch.com/articles/muslim~1.htm Chilling...
18 posted on 10/28/2001 4:25:55 PM PST by VeganFreeper
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To: Sabertooth
The flags read: "There is no God but God and Mohammed is the messenger of God."
19 posted on 10/28/2001 4:26:48 PM PST by scocha
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We need to set up a 500 foot tall flagpole out in the desert south of Khandahar for all these loonies to gather around.
20 posted on 10/28/2001 4:27:01 PM PST by atafak
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