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Strictly for the birds ....for your Happy Thanksgiving
Your Right Wing Chef | Oct. 29 2001 | Carlo3b

Posted on 10/28/2001 8:40:57 PM PST by carlo3b

Strictly for the birds ....for your Happy Thanksgiving
Every year I get dozens of inquires about what to do to get a moist, delicious turkey, ..well in case you were going to ask...


A Perfectly Roasted Turkey

As Thanksgiving approaches, cooking the traditional turkey dinner gives rise to questions on the best way to roast a turkey and how to tell for sure when its done. Check these answers to serve a "perfectly roasted turkey".

What's the best way to roast a turkey?
This traditional method consistently creates a juicy, tender, golden brown turkey!
Set the oven temperature no lower than 3250F.
Be sure the turkey is completely thawed. Times are based on fresh or completely thawed frozen birds at a refrigerator temperature of about 400F or below.
Place turkey breast side up on a flat wire rack in a shallow roasting pan 2 to 2½ inches deep. In the beginning, a tent of aluminum foil may be placed loosely over the breast of the turkey for the first 1 to 1½ hours, then removed for browning. Or, a tent of foil may be placed over the turkey after the turkey has reached the desired golden brown.
For uniform results, it is recommended to cook stuffing outside the bird. If stuffed, stuff loosely. It requires additional cooking time for the turkey and stuffing to reach a safe internal temperature (turkey, 1800F; and stuffing, 1650F).
For safety and doneness, the internal temperature should be checked with a meat thermometer. Several types of thermometers are available on the market; regular, ovenproof; instant read and digital; pop-up timers; and microwave-safe thermometers.
The temperature must reach a minimum of 1800F in the thigh before removing from the oven. The center of the stuffing should reach 1650F after stand time. (Cook a turkey breast at 1700F).

Juices should be clear. In the absence of a meat thermometer, pierce the turkey with a fork in several places; juices should be clear with not trace of pink.

Where does the meat thermometer go?
Place the tip in the thigh muscle just above and beyond the lower part of the thighbone, but not touching the bone. If using an oven-safe meat thermometer, insert it prior to placing the turkey in the oven and leave in while the turkey is roasting. Turn it so it can be read while the turkey is in the oven. If using an instant-read metal stem thermometer, do not leave it in the turkey during roasting.

My turkey never reaches 1800F in the cooking time recommended on the charts…Why?
Many variables can affect the actual roasting time. Did you use a deep pan, cover the bird with foil throughout most of the cooking time or not completely thaw the turkey prior to roasting? These are a few common things done that can lengthen the total cooking time.
Roasting time charts are based on using a 2-2½" shallow pan, shielding the breast loosely with a tent of foil for first 1 ½ hours or when the turkey is about two-thirds done and using a completely thawed turkey at refrigerator temperature.

Other variables include an oven that heats unevenly, inaccurate oven thermostat, rack position and a turkey or pan too large for the oven.

As you can see, timing’s not everything so use the roasting charts as a general guide and continue to depend on a thermometer properly placed to let you know for sure when the turkey is done.

Approximate cooking times for turkey

Unstuffed

    8 to 12 pounds
       2¾ to 3 hours
     
    12 to 14 pounds
       3 to 3¾ hours
     
    14 to 18 pounds
       3¾ to 4¼ hours
     
    18 to 20 pounds
       4¼ to 4½ hours
     
    20 to 24 pounds
       4½ to 5 hours

Stuffed
    8 to 12 pounds
      3 to 3½ hours
     
    12 to 14 pounds
       3½ to 4 hours
     
    14 to 18 pounds
       4 to 4¼ hours
     
    18 to 20 pounds
       4¼ to 4¾ hours
     
    20 to 24 pounds
       4¾ to 5¼ hours
 Let the turkey stand 20 minutes before carving to allow juices to set and enjoy your "perfectly roasted turkey"!

 


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To: MozartLover; Peter W. Kessler; Angelique; christie; jellybean; Irma; Exit148; firebrand; piasa...
NO I WON'T! I'll TELL him this IS what we are having!!! :^D

Just set the dinner down and tell him to shut up and eat...

Sit there and fold your arms, cross your legs and watch...LOL...........I'm selling these tickets for a FR fundraiser...Bwhahahahahhaah

81 posted on 10/29/2001 6:30:29 PM PST by carlo3b
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Great story of Jack Palance.. Thanks. I can see that happening too.
82 posted on 10/29/2001 8:03:48 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: SmartBlonde; Angelique; dixiechick2000; Snow Bunny; Teacup; jellybean; Exit148; Lee Stetson
This my fellow Freepers is from one of our own, and take it from these, she is one, SmartBlonde

This is a good way to use left-over turkey - equally good with chicken.

Florentine Turkey Casserole

Layer bottom of greased 1 1/2 qt. casserole with half the turkey then half the spinach. Sprinkle with chopped onions. Combine soup, butter, cream, egg, salt, pepper and tarragon in medium saucepan. Mix thoroughly and simmer for 5 minutes.
Pour half this mixture over layered turkey and spinach, then top with remaining turkey and spinach. Top with remaining soup mixture.
Sprinkle with seasoned bread crumbs. Bake at 350 for 25 minutes or until heated through.

Variation:
Double the onions, soup, butter, milk, egg and spices. Cook high quality egg noodles until al dente. (You can substitute brown rice if desired). Complete the recipe as directed, putting half the noodles in first, then the turkey, spinach, etc. This will require a deep baking dish such as used for lasagna.

This doubles nicely and looks very nice. I make my own croutons and put on the top, then add fresh grated Parmesan and broil it before serving.


Skillet Slaw
Cook bacon until nearly crisp. Remove the bacon and drain, saving drippings. Crumble bacon and set aside.
Measure 1/4 c. bacon drippings and return to skillet. Add vinegar, green onion, brown sugar and heat thoroughly.
Add cabbage and caraway seeds, saute gently until WARM - does not have to be hot. Top with bacon bits.

Sauerkraut Rolls
Mix together and roll into balls. Refrigerate at least 4 hours.

Non-Alcoholic Wassail
(Good for kids, too)
Combine in Dutch oven. Bring to boil. Cover, reduce heat and simmer for 20 minutes. Uncover, then simmer 20 minutes. Strain and discard the cinnamon stick. Serve hot.
Reheats nicely. I omit the cinnamon stick when I'm making it for me and my husband - while we like cinnamon, I don't like it in drinks.
83 posted on 10/29/2001 8:08:16 PM PST by carlo3b
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To: SmartBlonde; MozartLover; Peter W. Kessler; Angelique; christie; jellybean; Irma; Exit148...
...More from our SmartBlonde....Yummmmmmmm

Last batch! The first is a COLD variation of the succotash - I have never had a person refuse this - everyone wants my recipe - makes a great buffet dish.

Buffet Vegetable Salads with White Dressing

Cook lima beans and peas until barely tender. Drain and transfer to large mixing bowl. Bring pot of salted water to boil, then add carrots and cook till crisp-tender, about 5 minutes. Remove with slotted spoon. Add green beans to same water and boil till crisp-tender, again about 5-6 minutes. Drain. Add carrots and beans to lima beans and peas. Cover and refrigerate. Make marinade.

Place vinegar in small bowl, then gradually whisk in oil. Season with salt and pepper. Add to cooked but COOL vegetables - if this is added to soon it breaks down and becomes watery. Stir gently to coat veggies. Refrigerate 2 hours.
Drain marinade from cooked vegetables. Add celery, tomatoes, cucumber and green onions to salad. Blend gently.

Dressing:

Combine mayonnaise (not Miracle Whip), sour cream, Dijon mustard, 1 T. dry mustard, salt and pepper. Add more dry mustard to taste.
Mix dressing into salad. Refrigerate until thoroughly chilled. Garnish with chopped tops of green onions if desired. Serve in large glass dish.

Do not submit to the temptation to make this a day ahead of time - it does not keep well overnight. I do make it early in the morning to serve for an evening buffet. This is quite good - I occasionally double the amount of marinade and dressing to be sure it is good and 'juicy'.



I love to cook and always like to share my favorites.
Escalloped Tomatoes
Preheat oven to 350. Toast the bread and butter generously. Do not substitute another type of bread.
In large non-stick skillet, melt butter, then saute onion, celery, green pepper and garlic until barely tender. Take pan off heat and blend in flour. Start with 2 T. flour then add some if necessary - amount will depend upon the size of the vegetables.
Coarsely chop the tomatoes and add - with juice - to the skillet. Stir to blend. Break 4 slices of bread into 1/2" cubes and stir half into the tomato mixture. Stir in sugar, salt, pepper and mustard. Mix gently. TASTE - add brown sugar if necessary.
Turn into UNGREASED glass baking dish. Bake at 350 for 30 minutes - remove from oven and top with remaining two torn up bread slices. Sprinkle lightly with Parmesan cheese if desired. Continue baking 10 minutes.

This recipe is very forgiving. I always add extra brown sugar. I also run it under the broiler at the end to make the top 'crunchy'. This is universally liked.

I've tried it with fresh tomatoes (my favorite all time food) but it's much better with canned tomatoes.

I have two or three others I will send in a few minutes.

Let me know if you like this and the succotash.

Yo Blondie...They look wonderful!!!!....LOL

84 posted on 10/29/2001 8:28:51 PM PST by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b; SmartBlonde
Thank you for such goodies to make. This is great and I printed them out to have for Thanksgiving.
85 posted on 10/29/2001 8:45:02 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: carlo3b; SmartBlonde
Oooooh! Such yummy recipes! And, your timing couldn't be better! I'm having a dinner party next week...
are either of you available?;o)

Seriously, I'm going to bookmark the thread and try some of these great recipes. I think the escalloped tomatoes sound especially wonderful!

Thanks to everyone who contributed a recipe!

86 posted on 10/29/2001 9:37:03 PM PST by dixiechick2000
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To: carlo3b
bump for future reference!
87 posted on 10/29/2001 9:57:45 PM PST by FranklinsTower
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To: petuniasevan; Snow Bunny
My turkey never reaches 1800F in the cooking time recommended on the charts…Why?

Gotta set it closer to the nuclear warhead next time!


LOL! Preferably one near Kandahar. . .

Thanks for the ping, Snow Bunny!

88 posted on 10/30/2001 1:16:11 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: carlo3b
This is very good and is extremely quick and easy to make. Also has the benefit of not having to be baked - one less item to have to juggle for oven time.

PHILADELPHIA® No-Bake Pumpkin Cheesecake

Prep Time:10 mins.
Ready In:3 hrs. 10 mins.
Skill:No Experience Required
Serves:8

1 pkg. (8 oz.) PHILADELPHIA Cream Cheese, softened
1 cup canned pumpkin
1/2 cup sugar
1/2 tsp. pumpkin pie spice

1 tub (8 oz.) COOL WHIP Whipped Topping, thawed
1 HONEY MAID Honey Graham Pie Crust (6 oz. or 9 inch)

MIX cream cheese, pumpkin, sugar and pumpkin pie spice with electric mixer on medium speed until well blended. Gently stir in whipped topping.

SPOON into crust. Refrigerate 3 hours or overnight. Garnish as desired. Store leftover cheesecake in refrigerator.

More cheesecakes, desserts

I am getting really hungry now.

89 posted on 10/30/2001 1:26:30 AM PST by jrewingjr
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To: carlo3b
Oh chef of the future,once again, you have outdone yourself. Can't wait to try the Buffet Veggie Salad. BTW, I am in desperate need of a vegan brown gravy for Thanksgiving. I tried making it last year using a vegetable broth instead of a meat stock and it was ATROCIOUS. Can you help?
90 posted on 10/30/2001 5:58:25 AM PST by stanz
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To: okie_tech
Where did you learn to cook?A Cremation Academy? ;-)

Pretty good! Sounds like my kitchen.

91 posted on 10/30/2001 6:01:48 AM PST by stanz
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To: stanz; Angelique; christie; piasa; jellybean; TwoStep; Snow Bunny; Billie; firebrand...
Wonderfully Simple Veggie Brown Gravy
Use this on your Faux Beef...LOLOLOL
Melt margarine or butter in small saucepan over medium low heat. Add flour and whisk together about 30 seconds; then add broth slowly while whisking. Cook over medium heat for 2 minutes. Add soy sauce and pepper. Cook until gravy achieves desired thickness. Pour into a gravy boat or bowl and stir in parsley. Serve warm.
5 SERVINGS


Foolproof Meatless Mushroom Gravy
This rich-tasting gravy has a velvety texture. You and your buddies will love this one...I hope!..LOL
Melt 1 tablespoon margarine or butter in a medium skillet over medium heat. Add mushrooms and cook, stirring often, 3 minutes. Remove mushrooms with a slotted spoon and set aside.

Add remaining 1 1/2 tablespoons margarine or butter and flour to skillet; whisk until smooth and cook 30 seconds. Add broth slowly while continuing to whisk. Cook 1 minute, then stir in reserved mushrooms, thyme, salt and pepper: Cook, stirring, about 2 minutes. Transfer mixture to a gravy boat or serving bowl: Serve warm.
5 SERVINGS


The Best Basic Vegetarian Gravy
Use this bad boy with that Damned Tufu Turkey...Bwhahahahahh.. ;^)
Directions
1 In a saucepan over medium-low heat, combine the oil, garlic and onion; cook until onion is translucent.
2 Add the flour, yeast and soy sauce to make a paste. Gradually mix in the broth, stirring constantly.
3 Over medium heat, bring the gravy to a boil. Season with the sage, pepper and salt. If gravy is too thin, add teaspoons of flour to thicken.

Woo Hoo Tofu Turkey
" Stanz, This is an incredibly delicious and guilt-free LOL..alternative to the traditional bird, and I make it every holiday. I've even tried this out on meat eaters, and they were asking for seconds! The directions may seem a bit up hill at first glance, but don't worry!! It is much, much easier than it appears and the actual preparation time you spend in the kitchen is under fifteen minutes" using Million Mom Math...HahhahhahhDirections
1 Drain and rinse tofu; in a food processor or blender, process tofu until smooth. Stir in salt, marjoram, savory and pepper. Line a sieve with 2 sheets of paper towel and place over an empty bowl. Place tofu in lined sieve and press against sides to form a deep well in the middle. Place 2 more sheets of paper towel over tofu and refrigerate for 2 hours.
2 Meanwhile, in a medium saucepan over medium-high heat combine stuffing mix, 2/3 cup water and margarine. Bring to a boil; reduce heat to low, cover and simmer for 5 minutes. Remove from heat; let stand 5 minutes and fluff with a fork. To the stuffing add bread cubes, sage and 2 tablespoons water.
3 After tofu has chilled for 2 hours, preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). With 2 tablespoons of the vegetable oil, grease a baking sheet.
4 Remove the top layer of paper towels from the tofu. If necessary, again press tofu against the sides of the sieve to form a well. Spoon the stuffing mixture into the well and smooth the surface with a spoon. Invert the tofu mold onto prepared baking sheet. Remove the remaining paper towel layer and shape the tofu with your hands if it has cracked or lost its shape.
5 Bake in preheated oven for 30 minutes.
6 Meanwhile, prepare the glaze by combining barbecue sauce, mustard, orange jam, orange juice, sesame seeds and remaining 3 tablespoons oil. After tofu has baked for 30 minutes, brush or spoon the glaze over it. Return to the oven and bake for 20 minutes more.
7 Broil for 3 to 5 minutes, or until tofu is browned and crispy.
Makes 4 servings

The Return of Tofu Turkey Dinner..hehehe

      "Stanz, If you hang with 10 veggie munchers, this is a feast. A vegan alternative especially good for Thanksgiving dinner! Serve with the vegetarian gravy and all the fixings. Enjoy!"

Directions
1 Line a medium sized, round colander with a cheese cloth or a clean dish towel. Place the crumbled tofu in the colander. Place another cheese cloth over the top of the tofu. Place the colander over the top of a bowl to catch the liquid. Place a heavy weight on top of tofu. Refrigerate the colander, tofu and weight for 2 to 3 hours.
2 Make the stuffing: In a large frying pan sauté onion, celery and mushrooms in 2 tablespoons of the sesame oil until tender. Add the garlic, sage, thyme, salt and pepper, rosemary and 1/4 cup of the tamari. Stir well; cook for 5 minutes. Add prepared herb stuffing and mix well. Remove from heat.
3 Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F (200 degrees C). Grease a cookie sheet.
4 Combine 1/2 cup sesame oil, 1/4 cup tamari, miso, orange juice, mustard and orange zest in a small bowl; mix well.
5 Remove the weight from the tofu. Hollow out the tofu so that there is one inch of tofu still lining the colander. Place the scooped out tofu in a separate bowl. Brush the tofu lining with a small amount of the miso seasoning. Scoop the stuffing into the center of the tofu shell. Place the leftover tofu on top of the stuffing and press down firmly. Turn the stuffed tofu onto the prepared cookie sheet. Putting the leftover tofu side of the "turkey" (the flat side) down. Gently press on the sides of the "turkey" to form a more oval shape. Brush the tofu turkey with 1/2 of the oil-tamari mixture. Place the sprigs of rosemary on top of the tofu. Cover the "turkey" with foil.
6 Bake for one hour. After one hour, remove "turkey" from the oven and remove the foil. Baste the "turkey" with the remaining tamari-oil sauce (reserving 4 tablespoons of sauce). Return "turkey" to oven and bake another hour or until the tofu turkey is golden brown. Place the tofu turkey on a serving platter, brush with the remaining tamari-oil mixture and serve hot.
Makes 10 servings
92 posted on 10/30/2001 7:26:07 AM PST by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b
Don't laugh now but we use vinegar, oil and oregano to baste the turkey. It adds so much to the juices and vinegar is a great tenderizer (as is lemon). Approximate quanitity (although I never measure) is 1/2 cup vinegar, 1 cup olive oil and 3 tbls. oregano.
93 posted on 10/30/2001 7:44:10 AM PST by StarFan
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To: StarFan
quanitity Ooops!
94 posted on 10/30/2001 7:56:52 AM PST by StarFan
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To: stanz
This is cheating, but there are packets at the supermarket (or cubes? can't remember) that make a vegetarian brown sauce similar to the ones made from chicken and beef bouillon cubes. Lots of chopped-up sauteed mushrooms and reduced mushroom broth made from fresh mushrooms would probably add some nice natural flavor. Then just do the usual thickening thing with shortening and flour.
95 posted on 10/30/2001 7:59:14 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand
Thank you so much. I'll check it out. Let's do lunch next week. Let me know.
96 posted on 10/30/2001 8:36:34 AM PST by stanz
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To: carlo3b
You are truly a genius. When are you coming to NY for dinner? I'll even cook a roast! I'm so happy to get those gravy recipes...going to definitely use one of them on Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
97 posted on 10/30/2001 8:40:22 AM PST by stanz
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To: StarFan; Angelique; christie; jellybean; RJayneJ; Exit148; firebrand; piasa; stanz; Howie...
Don't laugh now but we use vinegar, oil and oregano to baste the turkey....

Not laughing at all, both Vinegar, and lemon, cut grease, tenderize, and add flavor. Vinegar acidity boils away without residue, while Lemon and Olive oil create a soothing coating over the surface, and control premature crisping! Oregano, well no news to anyone I put Oregano on my cereal!!!...LOL... Great tip, I haven't trying it yet, but marking it down, checking it twice and sending a report to Santa, you are removing some of those naughty girl checks ...keep up the good work....HA!!..  ;^)

98 posted on 10/30/2001 8:43:15 AM PST by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b
It requires additional cooking time for the turkey and stuffing to reach a safe internal temperature (turkey, 1800F; and stuffing, 1650F).

And for dessert, your neighbors can toast mashmallows over the bonfire which was your house.

99 posted on 10/30/2001 8:44:31 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
 (turkey, 1800F; and stuffing, 1650F).....And for dessert, your neighbors can toast mashmallows over the bonfire which was your house.

Cinnamon Girl..INDEED!!!!!!.....LOL.........revenge is mine
 

100 posted on 10/30/2001 9:03:04 AM PST by carlo3b
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