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Supreme Court Rejects Test Case of Workplace Religious Harassment
AP ^ | 10.29.01 | Gina Holland

Posted on 10/29/2001 7:35:46 AM PST by callisto

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To: the808bass; nobdysfool
If I'm at work, I always wait for openings to share my faith.

I don't think it is alright to push your faith at anyone,in or out of work..but we are ordered to share the gospel of Jesus Christ.

We do need to keep in mind the "thin skinned",but if something of a spiritual nature came up I always used it as an opportunity to talk about Jesus.

I am reading a Piper book..in one of the chapters he talks about the way the Puritians talked to each other of God..today christians talk about church or ministry etc. not about Christ Himself..

So may I suggest that we speak openly with other Christians about the Savior Jesus Christ every where we go.Non belivers will hear..and we never know when God will use the praise or testimony from our lips to quicken a heart..

No harrasment...witness,and conversation with each other!

61 posted on 10/29/2001 11:14:11 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: drjimmy
Of course there could be such a thing, and there have been already. Plenty of people throughout history have been tortured and killed by Christians in alliance with the government in order to coerce the victims into loving Jesus. You are confusing what is right with what is reality.

Your point is well taken, but from a different context than mine.

There can be all sorts of atrocities in the name of Jesus. There can never be a Christian Taliban.

One involves the way people who want power use religion. The other involves the religion itself.

But when it comes to the perception, your statement is probably more correct. But nobody needs to worry about that here in the U.S. Our religious freedoms were created by Christians because it is the Christian way. Christians don't need to fear other belief systems. Our beliefs can stand up under scrutiny and challenge.

Shalom.

62 posted on 10/29/2001 11:16:59 AM PST by ArGee
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To: anniegetyourgun
It's a hateful improper thing to do at work to offer someone a bible these days - let alone quote scripture. And to care for the sick enough to pray for them....fugedaboutit.

The work place is NOT the place to do this.

64 posted on 10/29/2001 11:47:14 AM PST by clamper1797
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To: d14truth
"If you want to proselytize at work, and the boss doesn't like it, go get another job."

The same should apply is the 'boss' does like it, and certain employees object. They should live with the bosses tolerances, or go get another job, not make a plea to the courts of some type of 'harassment'.

Who said otherwise? Not me.

But I don't think that it was the "harassed" employees who took this to court--it was the fired employee. Apparently, in this case, the boss didn't like it, and he particularly didn't like the fact that his employees didn't like it either, so he canned the guy. He had every right to do so, and in doing so, he did not violate either the guy's free speech or religious rights.

65 posted on 10/29/2001 11:49:56 AM PST by NonZeroSum
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To: RnMomof7
I was told that wasn't the point..I had an "obligation" to protect the "other women " in my work place

You can thank the Supreme Court for this. They issued a 5-4 ruling which basically stated that a "victim's" failure to report being sexually harassed didn't mean she couldn't sue the company anyway. That's we all the companies have been having these Orwellian seminars.

66 posted on 10/29/2001 11:52:59 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: callisto; *SCOTUS_List
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67 posted on 10/29/2001 11:55:21 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: callisto
There is a difference between exercising one's religion and being annoying.
68 posted on 10/29/2001 11:56:56 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: NonZeroSum
"Who said otherwise? Not me."

Looks like we are in agreement. Thank you for the clarification.

69 posted on 10/29/2001 11:57:34 AM PST by d14truth
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To: RnMomof7
The only part that really bugged was the company claiming that other employees could sue it for creating a hostile work environment if they let this guy stay.

This guy should consider what happens to Christians in Afghanistan and Africa. All he did was lose a job.

To be an effective witness he needs to do his job well, anyway.

I have no problem with an employer being allowed to discriminate for any reason. The good ones aren't interested in gender, race or religion, just getting the job done. The bad ones go out of business.

Of course, the government disagrees.

70 posted on 10/29/2001 11:57:57 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: ArGee
Christians don't need to fear other belief systems. Our beliefs can stand up under scrutiny and challenge.
That's why we call it "faith." Unfortunately, not all Christians in this country have enough of it, and they look to the government to make up the difference by putting Christianity ahead of other beliefs.

Peace to you as well.
71 posted on 10/29/2001 11:58:00 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: ctdonath2
Yes there is a difference, but like I said earlier...The right words said at the right time can have the most appropriate effect to end harrassment or annoyance.
72 posted on 10/29/2001 12:07:19 PM PST by callisto
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To: clamper1797
You're right - it's not possible to refuse someone's offer of a bible and move on. The law is necessary because there just aren't enough adults in the workplace who can speak for themselves.
73 posted on 10/29/2001 1:04:36 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: RnMomof7
bump to the church of Jesus Christ @ FR ..Is this "harassment" or free speech

Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; with good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men. -Ephesians 6:5-7

Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. -I Timothy 6:1

Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded. In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you. Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; -Titus 2:6-9

Was the man hired to work or to witness? In a case like this, a Christian has no need to go to the American courts, God has already ruled.

74 posted on 10/30/2001 5:05:40 PM PST by Tares
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