Posted on 10/29/2001 11:26:49 AM PST by aomagrat
What makes you think it was a Civil War? Civil wars
are fought to see who will control the government. The
individual states had government and were seceding from
the Union. That is not a Civil War, by definition.
Deah..it is "of" not "on".
I am laughing so hard.
Three flags here in Texas (not counting my Scotland), two of which flew on the Southern side. The family was mostly in Mississippi at that time but stretched from Virginia to Texas. The drunkard Sherman destroyed (in current dollars) millions of $$ of my family's property (Ellis Family; Twenty-five families of the South.)
Y' ain't whistlin Dixie bout that un
I would like to tell you a story. I lived in West Africa about twenty years ago. During one election for members of parliament, the incumbent decided that he wished to remain in power. Therefore, he and his wife, on election day, showed up at the poll early in the morning. They stood at the door and shot down any person who had the courage to step forward in order to place a ballot into the box. Nine folks died that day. They managed to be returned unopposed The ruling political party eventually removed the minister from his position, though he never went to jail for his crimes.
In that same country, if you so much as breathed a word against the ruling party and it got back to those rulers, you would be damned. You could be out of a job, or house, you could be put in prison, or even be murdered. I personally knew of one man, a top government bank officer, who, one day, felt too ill to go to the office. His family had gone shopping. Upon their return, he was found at the bottom of the mountain upon which his lovely house was perched. Shoved over the veranda. He got the notion that the government was not being fair with its citizens, and obviously spoke it to the wrong person.
. There is no grander nation where liberty is available to ALL! If you are so helpless that you think your civil rights are determined by a flag having dimensions somewhere in the neighborhood of 4'x6', you are in sad shape. Even Europe is the pits, compared to America. You have got your freedom. If you don't take advantage of it and do with it what you want, that is your fault, not the fault of anyone who displays a confederat flag on his pick up.
By the way I am just a Republican that believes that as long as Conservatives wave the Stars & Bars African Americans will continue to vote Democratic.
Get real. All the Stars And Stripes is is the flag under which Klinton perjured himself, Lyndon Johnson caused 58,000 GIs to die with his Gulf Of Tonkin "incident" that was a hoax - and the flag under which IRS bureaucrats threatened to prosecute my elderly middle-class mother unless she promptly paid $700+ in back taxes she never owed (they later admitted) in another of their snafus while Klinton was taxing naive native-born "Americans" like you to come up with $2 billion per year for restoring welfare for aliens.
The flag I salute daily at my home is the St. Andrew's Cross (Confederate Battle Flag) - and I think of myself as a citizen of an incipient sovereign nation here in Red Nation, just as a Quebec nationalist thinks of himself as a Quebecois and not a "Canadian."
Germany was the aggressor, just like the North (bad analogy)pick another.
It's not sick...Lincoln belittled himself on the slavery issue and the war. It is appropriate that Lincoln had a legend as a fence rail splitter, because he was certainly all over the fence on the slavery issue.
Grant belittled himself throughout life and was a drunk and total failure up until he was tapped by Lincoln. His greatest asset was Sherman, who was the closest thing the north had to an Osama Bin Laden type. He burned, looted and terrorized innocent civilians, something Lee refused to do or allow. This makes you proud?
The Union soldiers were brave, and worthy. I would never belittle them they are my brothers. They were just on the wrong side, that's all.
While you're in a wish-upon-a-star mood, see if you can get me some flying pigs to go with that.
Hey Listen, I was raised in New Orleans and live in George Bush's Texas. I am by no means a liberal but I do feel that in popular culture the Stars & Bars represent the slavery and segregation of the South. And in doing so the Stars & Bars can only keep minorities away from he Republican Party. However, if you want to be in a party that supports slavery and opposes the Civil Rights Movement than you should leave the GOP.
Here's the point of the article: Southerners defend this country and fight in all the wars.
Here's another point: Ever since 1865, Southerners have answered the call to arms in every war and have carried the starry cross into battle with them for the USA.
You sound like a communist. I suggest that you find another forum where people use such PC language as "african american" and accuse patriotic Americans of being Nazis.
The ANV battleflag is not a national flag. It's a battleflag, period. It's a central part of the warrior tradition of a large contingent of the US armed forces. You aren't going to stop the battleflag from going into battle in this war either. Young Southern men are already getting it tattooed on their upper arms. It's an American thing, boy. You couldn't be expected to understand it.
You leave it ! It is the SOUTHERN CONSERVATIVE boys that keep this party from sinking into to the elite country club sunset. We are not racist, just realists... blacks voted 90% democratic. They are for the most part, culturally liberal. George says he is going to give us the Hispanic vote. It is a more realistic goal, they don't want reparations. Hell... they don't even want Texas back.
Yes, George W. Bush and I use the term "African American."
What term to you use?
If you post the term you use to refer to African Americans will it get pulled because it is offensive?
It wouldn't matter if conservatives waved the African flag they are going to vote DEMOCRAT (there is NOTHING democratic about them) anyway.
BTW, I have NEVER owned a Confederate flag and I was born in the SOUTH. You have NO CLUE about my heart nor my head. Calling southerners racist only proves that you're a bigot without a brain.
Why am I not surprised? Another GOP socialist continuing the proud GOP tradition of feigning concern for "african americans" and bashing the people who saved that thoroughly rotten, duplicitous party from minority status, the Southern conservatives.
Get a clue. Black people have very long memories. They remember being abandoned and betrayed by the GOP to face the wrath of their fellow Southerners who they had betrayed at the behest of the carpetbaggers. Black folks are stuck on the socialist democrats now. They have seen that the GOP's hallmark is the systematic betrayal of whatever constituency they have been able to attract by subterfuge. The white Southerners are waking up to GOP duplicity, too, but we're not going to the democrats.
The GOP is socialist. They're just very unsuccessful at implementing their socialism, whereas the democratic socialists at least manage to hand over payoffs.
I have changed my mind about your presence on FR. I hope you stay around here for a long time. You're the perfect example of a GOP socialist.
Most southerners have MORE manners than you! I suppose it's just fine to call people names as long as it's PC. You should know!
I refer to black Americans as Americans, or as black folks. You can ask my wife about how offensive my language is. She's an American, descended from African slaves. I call her "Honey" and refer to her mother as "Ma". She and my daughter are both the lovliest shade of brown. BTW, if you say "african american" around my wife, she'll laugh at you and call you a liberal. Of course, she would be right as she usually is.
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