Jesus the Jew

March issue, 1995 pages 1-6 [I typed it in.] | Arthur Zamboni----Catholic Digest--condensed from Catholic Update

[Dallas]

Not exactly. Remember the Centurion.

Yep, He responded to anyone who displayed faith in Him. (Matt 15:22-28), is a perfect example...

Like now for instance. Jesus is not saving nations at this time, but rather is calling out of the nations a people for His name (the body). Same was true at His first dispensation....

[madrussian]

There are two different Jesus's?

The human body of Jesus has nothing to do with God. By the way, if you are a Jew, tell us how Judaism regards Jesus.

[JMJ333]

Thanks for responding, I appreciate it. :)

[Sci Fi Guy]

Interesting Article.

I had a Bible College professor state that the conflict that the early church had with the pharisees, might have been in part due to their being so similar.

Pharisees would have most likely to convert.

[JMJ333]

It would be interesting to compare and contrast the meaning of the word 'neighbor' in the Jewish and Christian faiths. Care to give it a shot?

Ashley, I'm not going to indulge you on trying to lure me into a debate. I know your position regarding Jews, and I don't share them. Thanks you for posting. :)

[Dallas]

What's your take on Gal 3:16-29 ?

Paul says there was only one promised seed of Abraham (i.e...Jesus)

[JMJ333]

The Catholic religious monster which arose out of the supposed 'conversion of Constantine' has done much to blind the eyes of Jews who would have possibly recognized the divine nature of 'The Man from Galilee'. Who can honestly say that the Vatican has not reproduced the very religious institutional abomination which many of the teaching of Jesus addressed?

The article was written by a Catholic and published in a Catholic Digest. I am also Catholic and have never been taught that which you accuse us of. We all tend to broad brush now and then, but really--we're not the "monsters" that you think we are.

[Sci Fi Guy]

I can testify that there are several within our own church that would not know, some even shocked, that Jesus Christ was Jewish

How would that feel if they discovered that "jews" who followed Paul causing trouble in Acts, could also be written as "Christians from Judah".

[JMJ333]

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but what about the article was tendenacious? Or is it that it is just wriiten by a Catholic that makes it tendenacious to you? If you have a better article on the subject I would enjoy reading it.

[JMJ333]

Paul says there was only one promised seed of Abraham (i.e...Jesus)

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply by asking that. What exactly does that have to do with Christians having a moral obligation toward Jews and Israel?

[RnMomof7]

Another possible explanation results from our enhanced understanding of the Talmud, the collected teachings of the Pharisees and their rabbinic heirs. In the Talmud are references to some seven categories of Pharisees, which clearly shows that the Pharisaical movement encompassed a wide range of viewpoints and, more important, that internal disputes, often of the heated variety, were quite common. The Gospel portraits of Jesus disputing with the "Pharisees" were examples of "hot debates" that were common in the Pharisaic circles rather than examples of Jesus condemning the Pharise

I think this sounds just like the Religious threads on FR ...:>)

It is a very interesting historical look at the times of Jesus!

[God_isa_Jew]

"We all tend to broad brush now and then, but really--we're not the "monsters" that you think we are."

The history of the Vatican as an institution has been nothing but 'monsterous'...........I am sorry if my words could have been construed to imply a personal attack of any sort. My point was that the sins committed by Jews who were functioning in their own religious humanity resulted in the religious institution which persecuted Jesus. That same spiritual dynamic has replicated itself in every 'Christian' state-religion.

[JMJ333]

obviously, I disagree with you about the history of my faith--but that's okay. Thanks for posting.

[wimpycat]

That makes him Jewish? :)

I hope you're only being obtuse for debate purposes. It's in the Bible that Jesus was a Jew of the house of David. All the miracles I mentioned were in the Bible, too. If you can believe in miracles, why can't you believe in a mundane genealogical detail? You don't need evidence to be convinced that He was born of a virgin, but you want his birth certificate to prove he was a Jew?

[wimpycat]

Hey, Catholic bashing is only allowed on the Neverending Christian Chronicles threads! This thread is about Jesus' Jewishness.

[wimpycat]

Like now for instance. Jesus is not saving nations at this time, but rather is calling out of the nations a people for His name (the body). Same was true at His first dispensation....

I'm sorry, but dispensationalism is an idea that doesn't make sense to me.

[RightWhale]

The miracles are easy. Egyptian magicians were famous for performing exactly those kinds of feats. Who was Lazarus? What do they mean when they call Jesus the Nazarene?

[wimpycat]

I'm not answering any more of your questions. You said Jesus didn't perform miracles, that they were magicians' tricks. There were people at the time who accused Jesus of the very same things. They were the very same people who shouted for Barabbas, a murderer, to be released and wanted Jesus, who did nothing wrong, put to death.

So, give us all this evidence you've been promising of Jesus not being a Jew. It's put up or shut up time for you, Right Whale!!

[RightWhale]

give us all this evidence you've been promising

You'll have to do better if we are to prevail against the fundy Islamicists. They call Jesus a liar. The Book convinces not a single one of them. There is a war on, you know.

[JMJ333]

You'll have to do better if we are to prevail against the fundy Islamicists. They call Jesus a liar. The Book convinces not a single one of them. There is a war on, you know.

Actually, no one is capable of converting another person. It is God's spirit that overshadows a person and brings on an illumination of conscience. The person sees himself as God sees him. We are used as tools, but we have no power to change hearts--it is God working through us. :)