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Jesus the Jew
March issue, 1995 pages 1-6 [I typed it in.] | Arthur Zamboni----Catholic Digest--condensed from Catholic Update

Posted on 11/06/2001 10:13:10 AM PST by JMJ333

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My apologies for any and all typos.
1 posted on 11/06/2001 10:13:12 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: madrussian
Two points:

Judaism is definately a religion of love [See I am not the only one who thinks that!] I thought the article did a good job of outlining why. Second, that this article supports the fact that Jesus most certainly considered himself Jewish in every sense of the word.

2 posted on 11/06/2001 10:17:21 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: ArGee
I thought you might enojy this article. :)
3 posted on 11/06/2001 10:18:10 AM PST by JMJ333
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Read John 8:44 and ask yourself if Jesus would speak to the jews in that manner today?
4 posted on 11/06/2001 10:31:23 AM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: JMJ333
Then why, in the Gospels, do the Pharisees appear as the archenemies of Jesus?

I enjoyed the article immensely. I have learned a few things differently, but the gist of the article is sound. In addition, the chief evangelist of the first century was a self proclamed Pharisee (Hebrews 3:5) and zealous for the Law.

As to the quote above, I have always believed it was because the Pharisees had such a high calling and had still failed. They were supposed to bring G-d near and had lead the people away from Him (Matthew 23:15). Jesus was much like the Pharisees of His day, and many modern Jewish scholars look at Jesus of the Gospels as a prime example of first century Pharisaic life. But He had given much to the Pharisees and had demanded much in return. They did not deliver.

Still, His desire was to save them, not to condemn them. His harsh words were to bring them to the light, not drive them into outer darkness. Witness His relationship with the Pharisee in John 3.

Shalom.

5 posted on 11/06/2001 10:33:39 AM PST by ArGee
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To: JMJ333
Jews were the only one with a covenant relationship with God.

They were the ones who needed to be redeemed from the curse of the law.

Gentiles were a non-issue during His ministry.

I guess I miss the purpose of the article...

6 posted on 11/06/2001 10:34:50 AM PST by Dallas
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To: JMJ333
Until medical problems forced retirement, my wife was Music Director here:

-bethtefilloh--

And yep, we're Episcopalians.... one of my favorite bumper stickers is

"My Boss is a Jewish carpenter...."

7 posted on 11/06/2001 10:38:13 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Dallas
I guess I miss the purpose of the article...

I posted it because of a debate I've been having with another poster, and I wanted to show that Judaism is indeed a religion of love and that Christians do have an obligation toward Jews and Israel.

8 posted on 11/06/2001 10:38:52 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
Thanks for the article (especially if you typed this all out yourself). It was an interesting read. I never thought about what group Jesus was more closely aligned with. But I've never doubted Jesus' Jewishness. Interesting! Thanks again!
9 posted on 11/06/2001 10:40:37 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: Dallas
Gentiles were a non-issue during His ministry.

Not exactly. Remember the Centurion.

10 posted on 11/06/2001 10:41:42 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: backhoe
I like the architechture on that Temple. Thanks for the link. :)
11 posted on 11/06/2001 10:42:27 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: wimpycat
You're welcome! I did indeed type it out, and my fingers are sore!
12 posted on 11/06/2001 10:44:09 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
I'd love to see the results (ordered by denomination) of a survey of people who actually knew jesus was a jew.
13 posted on 11/06/2001 10:46:31 AM PST by Eddeche
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To: JMJ333
Jesus was a committed Jew of his day

So goes the catechism. How do they know that? Circumstantial evidence indicates he might not have been Jewish. Who would know? The early Christians were Jewish, no doubt.

14 posted on 11/06/2001 10:49:59 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: JMJ333
Of course Jesus was a Jew. That has always been understood.

Then why, in the Gospels, do the Pharisees appear as the archenemies of Jesus?

My answer to this question is the fact that Jesus told ALL the Jews that he WAS the Messiah. Most of the Jewish elite either didn't believe he was but thought that HE did believe this to be true or thought he was lying for his own gain.
This is what made most of the Jewish elite his archenemies.

15 posted on 11/06/2001 10:50:27 AM PST by Just another Joe
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To: JMJ333
You got this right-on. Too many people overlook it.
16 posted on 11/06/2001 10:51:51 AM PST by pankot
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To: JMJ333
Good job - I enjoyed your post, thanks, JL
17 posted on 11/06/2001 10:54:11 AM PST by lodwick
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To: RightWhale
Jesus was a committed Jew of his day

So goes the catechism. How do they know that?

I thought the article did a good job of outlining why it was fairly possible of his Pharasiacal roots. It is long, but if you get a chance to read through the entire article I think you will find it interesting.

Circumstantial evidence indicates he might not have been Jewish.

Which circumstancial evidence would that be? I think the article outlines in detail exactly where his teachings came from.

18 posted on 11/06/2001 10:55:02 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
Ping for Jesus. For victory & freedom!!!
19 posted on 11/06/2001 10:55:56 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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