Posted on 11/06/2001 10:13:10 AM PST by JMJ333
Read Hebrews. You can't have two covenants.
Well, He said to preach the gospel to all nations, which includes Israel (I refer to the people Israel, not the state of), so don't get offended at proselytizers. ALL people must repent of their sins, anti-semitism being but one. And I owe my faith and existence to Jesus and God alone.
I know you were responding to someone else, and that person was too much in one direction, but you sound like the other side of the same coin.
I didn't say to hate them. To the contrary, I said we owe them the truth. Not the fairy tale that they can be saved in spite of rejecting the Messiah.
I mentioned the Hillel quote, because he lived shortly before Jesus and the school he founded was still flourishing, so Jesus would likely have been familiar with Hillel and his teachings. There is a similar Talmudic passage from shortly after the time of Jesus (around the year 100), in which Rabbi Akiba and Rabbi Tarphon debated which single verse in the Bible was the most important; Akiba argued for Leviticus 19:18 ("love your neighbor as yourself"), and Tarphon for Genesis 5:1 ("God created man in the image of God").
Excuse me? It's possible that you may want to rethink that.
I believe that Judiasm came before Christianity.
Mormon babblings. The glasslooker (or one of his followers) maintained that Americans were one of the tribes of Israel.
Jesus' use of the Hebrew Scriptures, therefore, was unabashedly Jewish. And it was similar to that of his contemporaries, particularly the philosophy of the Pharisees. "Knowing and appreciating the Jewish origins has at least three advantages: First, it helps us revise negative understandings of the Pharisees. It also helps us to avoid anti-Semitism. Finally, it allows us to better appreciate the Jewish roots of Christianity. Ultimately, understanding Jesus as a Jew will help us to better understand both our own faith and that of the contemporary Jews."
Yes, all so VERY TRUE. Jesus of Nazareth as a child showed a profound understanding of scripture. He, the author of creation chose not only to inspire Hebrew prophets but to visit the descendants of Abraham directly. Who, but the author of scripture could expound with perfect precision upon its meaning?
To understand the message of Jesus Christ fully one has to understand that His message to ALL of humanity is/was built upon the foundation of truth which had already been revealed to the Jews. From the time of the garden onward God had faithfully provided examples of the need for an atoning sacrifice for sin. Each passover lamb has been a picture of 'the lamb' who would be slain for the sins of His people, His creation, us. It was God's plan from the beginning of time. It has been entirely wrong to direct anamosity toward the Jewish religious leadership................
Did Isaiah not prophecy that "the stone that the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone and it is wonderous in our eyes?" Did not Peter declare that this scripture applied directly to the Sanhedrin? Did not Paul make clear in the letters the predominately Jewish church of His day that it was God's plan to extend mercy to non-Jews through their rejection of the 'chief cornerstone'? Does not Paul's letter to the Romans clearly indicate that there will be a time in the future when ALL of Israel will come to recognize their Messiah?
No, historically many who thought they were serving God by persecuting the Jews were actually heretics of the worst kind. They are and were the one's referred to in the Book of Revelations as 'the synagogue of Satan'. The Catholic religious monster which arose out of the supposed 'conversion of Constantine' has done much to blind the eyes of Jews who would have possibly recognized the divine nature of 'The Man from Galilee'. Who can honestly say that the Vatican has not reproduced the very religious institutional abomination which many of the teaching of Jesus addressed?
The main misunderstanding which caused the Jewish religious leaders to not percieve their time of visitation involved a limited understanding of the Hebrew prophets. The Jewish theology has never fully percieved that there are TWO roles that the Jewish Messiah would/will accomplish. They were looking for 'The Conquering King' and not percieving that His first visitation would be as the 'Suffering Savior'.
At the end of the tribulation period which is coming upon the entire earth the 'hope of Israel' will be accomplished and 'all the enemies of God will become His footstool.' He will rule the nations with a rod of iron from Jerusalem and "the knowledge of The Lord will cover the earth, as the oceans cover the sea."
Jesus didn't "pick up" on any element of Pharisaism nor did he proof-text. To accuse the author of proof-texting is to deny his divinity.
I don't know why you say that. Most scholars I have heard about recognize seven separate covenants. Since they are established with different groups they are all in force at the same time.
I'm not sure I can name them all. There's the Adamic, Noahic, Abrahamic, Mosaic, Davidic, and Christian. I'm missing one.
But that doesn't have anything to do with what we owe the Jews. Look at Romans 11-13. Paul lays it out that we owe them a debt of gratitude.
Shalom.
Shema, Israel, Adonai elohenu. Adonai ehad.
Mark 12:29.
Shalom.
There y'go. (c;
Yeah George Washington as an English officer--what happened?
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