Fr. Pavone is alive and well, and he's behind the abortion "billboard truck" campaign!

Catholic Answers ^ | 10/29 | Fr. Frank Pavone

[Aquinasfan]

I was listening to an archived broadcast (10/29/01) of Catholic Answers today that featured Fr. Frank Pavone. He said that he's "in negotiations" with Cardinal Egan regarding remaining with Priests for Life in some capacity.

Even better, he mentioned that he has been working with a Catholic attorney regarding overturning Roe v. Wade. The attorney recommended the famous "rolling billboard" campaign. The lawyer researched how issues like slavery were overturned by the SC in the past. He determined that in every case the bulk of the population was presented with images of the injustice –whether they liked it or not. And so the billboard campaign was devised.

The campaign consists of photos of aborted babies three months of age or less, the age when 90% of abortions occur, mounted on tractor-trailers. Then they roll. LET'S ROLL!

[victim soul]

Great idea -- bypass the press that won't show. And God Bless Father Pavone and Priests for Life.

[ELS]

There was a thread about it the truck billboard campaign (and Fr. Pavone's involvement)

Here it is: Controversial Reproductive "Choice" Campaign Launched on CA Highways

[Roscoe]

bumping back

[Aquinasfan]

I can't wait until they come here to Massachusetts, particularly Brookline, the liberal and abortion capital of New England.

[Notwithstanding]

It is not necessarily due to a shortage of priests that Fr. Pavone was recalled. It may be because PFL has strongly endorsed projects that display the truth of choice in full color - and the USCCB does not like such a "controversial" project. Cardinal Egan (any cardinal for that matter) has to be somewhat mindful of politics - and therefore does nto wat the most powerful catholic voice on Life to be a priest who shows people the bloody truth of choice (in addition to all the other wonderful projects he supports). For USCCB and Cardinals it may be too much to stomach - such a strong and absolute in your face message about the culture of death. It is offensive to the people these men need to make nice with (Kennedy's and Daschles and other jakals).

[electron1]

I highly doubt that is the case. For atleast 4 reasons.

1. There is a shortage of Priests, in NY especially, right now.

2. Cardinal Egan has ALSO removed MANY other priests from there duties also. He is NOT just targeting PFL.

3. Cardinal Egan replaced Cardinal O'Conner, who, rumor has it, left the Archdiociese(sp?) in debt and with problems.

4. I have read of where Cardinal Egan speaks out for life, in front of journalist and everything. He seems to be pretty pro-life in his views.

5. By removing Fr. Frank Pavone, it really does NOTHING to stop the projects going on with PFL. There are other priests involved(includding the son of Scalia, the supreme court justice), and surely another priest will take Pavones place and keep the same direction.

OK, more than four reasons. But these are enough to make me believe that it is an honest call that Cardinal Egan is making. He might be doing this for the very opposite reason, to signal to all the other priests that have been removed from their assignments, that it is serious. SO serious Cardinal Egan is even forced to remove Fr. Pavone from PFL. I have even heard of Cardinal Egan temporarily shutting down some Churches in NY. So this is serious.

[Notwithstanding]

Either reason might be true. We don't really know. A priest must obey his bishop , for sure. And Fr. Pavone is obeying his bishop (Egan).

Who else (priests) has been recalled? Who else hasn't been? Do you have names?

[electron1]

No, I originally posted the article where it first came out that Fr. Pavone was being called, in that article there were names. I just cant find it anymore. I must have deleted it. But Fr. Pavone himself talks about many others who have also been called from special assignment.

[smorgle]

Thanks. I firmly believe that legalized abortion has succeeded mostly because the horror of what abortion actually is has been suppressed. The billboards tell the truth and shatter the lies. God bless Fr. Pavone for all he has done to get the truth out there!

[lara]

This is great! Sometimes I get discouraged by the attitude of Catholics when it comes to abortion. When my daughter was in 6th grade she told her CCD teacher about a pro-life rally and wanted her teacher to announce it to the class. The teacher wouldn't. I found out later the teacher was pro- abortion & pro-clinton. When parents are pro-choice we have to make sure the CCD teachers are pro-life so they can reach these kids.

Wow! A pro-life Catholic lawyer. I wish there were more of them around.

[IM2Phat4U]

I was just thinking that someone should create a 5 second, e-mailable Quicktime (or Flash?) movie of an ultrasound of a 90-day-old unborn child. Then all of us pro-lifers can e-mail it to our friends, and so on. It would be an inexpensive way to get our message across.

This sounds like a great idea. I would love to e-mail this out to a few hundred pro-life activists. There has to be a freeper who can make this happen.

[Aunt Polgara]

bumping to abortion list

[pcl]

Now we have the Catholic Coalition for Public Pronography. I wonder if they will be taking ad out in Hustler.

[Aquinasfan]

Why do you consider photos of murdered, unborn children to be pornography?

[AquariusStar22]

Thought you would find this Catholic activism encouraging.

A picture is worth a thousand words kind of thing:)

[pcl]

Conscious or not there is some sort of mental categorization which assigns more value to the born than to the pre-born and that is why we are so forgiving and acceptance of incrementalism.

If a person holds this as a primary belief, those images will probably trigger a cognitive dissonance. They can not accept that their beliefs kill people therefor those images must not be of people even though they look like people. The end result being the reinforcement of the belief you are trying kill.

[pcl]

One of the defintions of pornography is:
Gruesome or senstational material causing shock or horror.

If your self image interfers with your accepting the images as pornographic, maybe you will accept "obscene." The definition of obscene being:
Repulsive; disgusting; Offensive to accepted standards of decency.

[Aquinasfan]

Well, the photos are disgusting and disturbing. No doubt about that.

But what's worse is that these babies are being killed now. Would you have objected to a billboard campaign in Germany during WWII showing photos of bulldozers plowing piles of corpses?

[pcl]

Would you have objected to a billboard campaign in Germany during WWII showing photos of bulldozers plowing piles of corpses?

The question is not relevent as those were corpses of former persons.

I would object to billboards showing graphical display of the slaughter of dinner table animals. My objection would be that the billboards were pure sensationism as are those trucks.

BTW: While I do object, I also support their right under the First Ammendment to display this obscene material.