Fr. Pavone is alive and well, and he's behind the abortion "billboard truck" campaign!

Catholic Answers ^ | 10/29 | Fr. Frank Pavone

[pcl]

films of the Nazi death camps.

I noticed that you have referred to these several times in different threads. Why are you so fascinated by the death camp images? Do they somehow tie in with your fascination for dead fetuses? Do you get off on this sort of graphical carnage? Does real live carnage turn you on even more? What is your real motive here?

[Romulus]

I noticed that you have referred to these several times in different threads.

Have I? Where?

[Romulus]

I have no problem with your being a vegitarian.

It may be that you're actually this obtuse. But I doubt it.

[Aquinasfan]

The fetus of a homo sapian become a person when it take its first breath of air into its lungs.

The soul is the substantial form of the body. A substantial form becomes actual when a compound substance is individuated materially. A soul comes into being at individuation. Individuation occurs at fertilization.

When you understand the Aristotelian/Thomistic definitions of substance/accident, and form/matter you will be able to see more easily that your position is incoherent.

[Aquinasfan]

The bishops also helped kill Father Pavone's billboard project.

Was he trying to do this originally through Priests for Life? If so, did the bishops kill the project? If so, that would be troubling. Until we know with certainty, however, we have to assume otherwise in charity.

[Verax]

Click here to listen to an interview of Greg Cunningham, the founder of The Center for Bioethical Reform.

This is the guy who left his U.S. Attorny job to start this truck campaign!

[Verax]

Romulus...

I see Pcl ranting in just about every Pro-Life thread.

Pcl is repulsed and disgusted by the bloody violence depicted in photos of aborted children

...but she's fine with the actual act.

[Aquinasfan]

Thanks. Will do!

[Aunt Polgara]

As long as we're talking about the graphic pictures on the trucks, let's take a look at the face of abortion. The pictures are hard to look at. They are meant to be hard to look at. Maybe it will jog a few people who still have functioning consciences. There's always hope.

To donate to the Center for Bioethical Reform to help support the trucks, go to http://www.abortionno.org

[Aquinasfan]

Great interview. I was amazed that his trucks make 400,000 impressions/day.

I hope this campaign grows.

[Verax]

Glad you liked it. This is why his organization is the ONLY pro life one I support financially.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Unfortunately, this is only too true. For starters, Cardinal Law of Boston has banished Fr. Pavone and Priests For Life from Massacheusettes, citing Fr. Pavone's "controversial" involvement with the billboard effort. (Don't forget that just a couple months ago, Teddy Kennedy received communion from the hands of one of Law's Massacheusettes bishops at the funeral of a liberal Catholic politician there, and it was Law that called for an end to sidewalk counseling and protests at abortion clinics.)

Of course Law has much pull within the NCCB, and I suspect that Law and Mahoney urged Egan to reign in Fr. Pavone. These guys have no guts for real effective pro-life activism.

(That is a generous assessment. When I'm in a foul mood, I'd say its even worse than a lack of backbone, and borders on a complete inability to address mortal sin by the episcopacy due to rampant homosexual sin within its ranks. The evidence is there, see Roman Catholic Faithful's website. Of course, if it is happening, politicos with access to FBI raw files can use such data to blackmail bishops into silence and undercut the effective ministry of the likes of Fr Pavone. This is hard to hear, but the facts are there regarding the homosexual corruption of the episcopacy.)

[Judith Anne]

Same here, I had the same illness in more than one pregnancy. No one ever suggested killing my child to save me. Partial birth abortion is never medically necessary.

[Aquinasfan]

I'm sorry to hear that. I actually spoke to Fr. Pavone this summer at the banquet for the Cape Cod center of A Woman's Concern. I also saw Cardinal Law speaking with Bill Kotter at the Washington March for Life a couple of years ago.

This billboard campaign is exactly what we should be doing. The analogy with the civil rights campaign in the '60s is quite apt.

The only other pro-life activity that seems to be working to cut the abortion rate is the use of free ultrasound examinations at "crisis pregnancy centers." (FYI, CPC's should be referred to as pregnancy resource centers since there is nothing "critical" about a normal pregnancy).

[Judith Anne]

Same here, I had the same illness in more than one pregnancy. No one ever suggested killing my child to save me. Partial birth abortion is never medically necessary.

[ELS]

From PRO-LIFE CRUISE NOV. 17, NYC:
"He is going to be given light parish service so that he can continue his work with Priests for Life."

As for the bishops' lack of backbone in fighting the evil of abortion, I was glad to hear that Archbishop Myers and other bishops of NJ had issued a letter to NJ Catholics before the NJ gubernatorial election encouraging them to vote pro-life. That is until my pastor had obtained a copy and pointed out that not even once was the word abortion mentioned. Talk about lukewarm. I am disappointed, but I am still hopeful that Myers will shake things up a bit around here. Time will tell.

[Judith Anne]

"Do you get off on this sort of graphical carnage? Does real live carnage turn you on even more? What is your real motive here?

61 posted on 12/3/01 10:29 PM Pacific by pcl"

Romulus, pcl is making this accusation all over the forum on every pro-life article that comes up. I consider that extremely interesting, it most likely says more about pcl than anything else it posts.

[Romulus]

I'm beginning to notice that too. I have seen some deeply unpopular posters who nevertheless contributed a lot to FR because they argued with gusto, imagination, and wit. I have yet to see anything like that from pcl -- frankly an unimpressive performance. I predict (s)he won't be around long.

[IM2Phat4U]

I believe that PFL had plans for a nationwide billboard campaign aimed at women victimized by abortion. (This did not involve graphic images).

[Notwithstanding]

No matter what pro-lifers do they are evil in the eyes of pcl and his fellow travellers.