Posted on 11/10/2001 2:19:30 AM PST by Quilla
Edited on 05/07/2004 6:26:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
You sound alot like the democrap apologists who are always making excuses for Clintoon's boorish behavior, except instead of blaming the VRWC, you blame the PC police.
I didn't 'do' the Greek thing in college, but I thought that if they had a party under their Greek letters, they had to maintain certain standards.
At most universities today, "standards" are set by radical leftists who seek to ban anything that they don't like (while looking the other way when unsavory things are said and done with which they happen to agree).
What I think about these boy's behavior is immaterial. Auburn university accepts government money, and should be forced to abide by the Constitution....namely the First Ammendment in this instance.
The whole purpose of freedom of thought and freedom of speech is the protection of those forms of expression with which we disagree. No one ever tries to ban agreeable ideas.
The article mentioned that the incident was being "thoroughly investigated". What are they investigating? So long as these boys didn't hurt any one physically, their costumes are no one's business.
The real problem in this country is not racism. The real problem in this country is political correctness. It exploits "extreme cases" to set precedents, which are then used in a subjective, selective manner to persecute anyone who harbors ideas with which the liberals disagree.
It is also true that extreme rates of murder and rape are a part of the Black culture. Both were wrong but one is worse than the other. The interesting thing is that only the other is widely excoriated.
My Grandmother's 1st Cousin (and closest friend) was raped and murdered by four Black men. She was a beautiful blond 12 year old. After they were caught, they said they really wanted the black headed one (my grandmother). The girl's family, and the entire community searched for her for nearly a day before she was found in a pond weighed down with logs. Her little dog found her. Her little body had been brutalized beyond recognition.
The Black turpentiners were separated, questioned, and all admitted guilt, giving details. They were all immediately shot to death.
One of those participating in the killing was a Black man who was a friend of the family.
The fascinating thing to me is that there is a web site listing all those lynched during this time. These four are on the list.
On the other hand, there is no monument or rememberance at all for the little 12 year old, except her tombstone.
I expect some time there will be a TV movie made over the incident in which the little girl will be portrayed as a hooker, her parents as toothless rednecks and the murderers as heroes who really tried to save the little girl from her molesting relatives.
The previous is one reason I despise the Southern hating scum who post on this forum.
Jail time?!?! And what other parts of the Constitution do you want to flush?
Then they're an improvement over what we have up North. An "artist" on exhibition in the Brooklyn Museum of Art produced exactly that, and the courts' upheld that it could be displayed in the city museum despite the objections of the mayor of NY.
My point is that we have lots of talk about the sanctity of First Amendment rights as applied to political speech -- but only if the speech does not offend the politically correct
The problem with the "justice" handed out in this case is there is no proof of guilt.
We have to take your word - or the word of relatives now faded and added to over generations. How many times are you satisfied with "take my word on it"?
So the four black men in your story were separated and questioned - "questioned" an interesting term that might include torture - given the time in the South, I will bet on it. Those guys were probably glad to be shot after "questioning!"
Let me give you another story of turpentiners - Late 20's - a white woman yelled rape - it was a black man. The men of this North Florida Community came to save her honor and started killing the accused - now they didn't have a great description so any black man would do - and they killed a bunch. The story goes anywhere from 5 to 20. They sit in an unmarked grave - no pictures, no headstone.
By the way - the honorable woman had been stepping out on her husband and almost got caught - easier for her to cry rape and accuse a black man than to admit adultery with a back-stabbing neighbor.
Now of course we have the heros at AU to uphold this great tradition in their Halloween celebrations - and they will continue to remind us that the Battle Flag they love to frolic in front of so much is all "about heritage - not hate!"
How about a better punishment - expell both fraternities and stamp their transcripts - TO STUPID TO GRADUATE
As a matter of fact it is not neccessary to take my relatives word for it. My Father still has the "Pensacola Journal" report on the incident. Of course you are so biased that any account of that time would not be acceptable.
As the Pensacola Journal said, these people were treated with remarkable restraint until proof of guilt was established. Also the story remarked about how these people's execution, "by firearm without any torture" was mercy compared to what they had done to the girl.
Now for the little snide comment about my family. This girl's family was probably the most prominent one in the area. My Grandmother's house won a prize in the Progressive Farmer magazine in the 30's as being the most modern farm house in America. My Grandfather was a Pastor along with being Senator and Representative for the area. He had numerous degrees from three universities.
If they said something happened you can take it to the bank.
Nearly all the stories now made into movies, tv specials etc. have been extremely distorted. A good example was the recent one about the Franks lynching in Atlanta.
I agree that lynching is wrong for the very reason you cite. Guilt should be established beyond a reasonable doubt before taking someone's life. In this particular incident, the proof was overwhelming and no one involved including the Sheriff who tried to prevent the lynching doubted their guilt.
I glad you agree that lynchings leave too much to question later.
VERY stupid.
It's a well-known fact that whites lynched blacks during the dark days of the old south. It's also a well-known fact that not all white people, or even the majority of white people, were involved in those lynchings or are likely to lynch today. Yarddog, you seem to have no problem getting your mind around the fact that it's inaccurate and wrong to stereotype all whites by the reprehensible actions of a few. Why can't you realize that the same is true for black people?
With all due respect to your grandmother's cousin, the fate she suffered was at the hands of four particular black men, not all black men and certainly not black culture. Likewise, the fate of those at Rosewood, OKC, and so many other towns was at the hands of those particular white people, not all white people and certainly not white culture. Racist hyperbole gets us nowhere fast.
While 4 Negroes were arrested, one was found to be not involved and released.
There was not even a hint of misconduct on the girls part. No one has even claimed that. (unless you are making such a vile claim). She was walking home from school and did not even know the men. She was a child.
I was born within a mile of where this occurred. I know exactly where it happened.
It is amazing how these events get distorted and just as I predicted, the victim is now being blamed by some apparently.
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