Posted on 11/10/2001 6:34:55 AM PST by Keyes For President
"I sit in front of a decision like that and I say this is a decision where somebody sat down to figure out how much evil they could get away with".
Determining that "this is a decision where somebody sat down to figure out how much evil they could get away with" is clearly (or at a minimum, a very strong implication) that the person is evil. I imagine one could parse their way out of it if they were really motivated, but it sounds pretty definitive to me.
Did he not say this? Was he not talking about President Bush?
We will when YOU admit that MOST TIMES he doesn't.
And once again, I see we are back to when Keyes thinks Bush is true and right; it's always about Keyes; your reponses are always why Keyes is right and Bush is wrong.
But, then, I digress; I had completely forgotten that Mr. Keyes and his supporters are
And opposed to the rest of us who have not been priviledged to see the REAL CONSTITUTION, which Keyes, juding from his tomes, thinks nobody except you all understand, -- why, those of us who disagree with him are just plain ignorant IMMORAL CONSERVATIVES.
And please don't patronize me by telling me I have misunderstood what you and the rest of the Keyes Kult have said. Been there, done that.
Dear, you must be new to the Keyes threads: here's the way it works; one of them posts an article written by Keyes and then you and I and a lot of other people read them; we obviously are too dumb to understand what Mr. Keyes is saying, so in short time, THEY show up to tell us just why WE have completely misunderstood what Mr. Keyes has said (AGAIN) and here is what he really said, blah, blah, blah.
And if you don't still don't "get it," you'll get all kinds of condescending remarks about how you're just LOOKING for anything to bash Keyes about, remarks questioning whether or not you're a "true" conservative, and, depdending on how far they're willing to go, they might even imply you're an IMMMORAL conservative because you don't believe EXACTLY what Mr. Keyes says -- since the beginning of time.
It's one of those "who are you going to believe, Keyes or your lying eyes" things. :-)
You obviously have NOT learned your lessons here at FR; Mr. Keyes does no wrong and has never, ever been wrong about anything he may wish to discuss. Ever. And never will be.
How insulting you are to your fellow Freepers.
Thanks for the crash course. ; )
You just don't know when to quit, do you?
Using your OWN logic, I couldn't call a rapist a "rapist" just because he'd done ONE EVIL thing.
We're STILL the "Good Guys," in this conflict.
As Dr Keyes points out, our "attackers" HAD TO abandon any association with the universally acknowleged "Moral High Ground" (including ANY contact with universally accepted standards of "Human Decency") to "justify"-in their own minds-their utterly barbaric behavior.
Aggressive suicidal attacks on a perceived "enemy" can ONLY be "justified" in the face of imminent annihilation of one's family/homeland/culture!
NO Earthly Civilization/nation has faced such a risk in the last 50+ years!
Our "attackers" are, therefore, Sociopaths/Psychopaths!
They MUST be isolated & stopped! They place ALL of the costly/painful progress our species has made toward survival in terrible jeopardy!
We are in a struggle for the very existence of our species!
Doc
That seems to be a requirement for the Keyes and Larry Klayman supporters.
Stay tuned.
Did you hear or see the UN address today? Pretty good I'd say....
Guess that's why you sent the "Hugs"?
and half clever, I might add
I didn't want it so clever you wouldn't understand me. Obviously, I should have gone to one-quarter clever.
.....are you now trying to backpedal from what you wrote?
Not at all, just objecting to your mischaracterization of it.
Shhhhh. Don't tell anyone. We wouldn't want the All-Keyes-does-is-bash-Bush crowd to look like a bunch of fools.
The American solution to this dilemma is to acknowledge religion as a principal source of moral goodness, while recognizing the danger of religious sectarianism only and precisely insofar as it appears in the form of actions which are immoral regardless of motive. The ruthless destruction of innocent human life, however it may cloak itself in a false language of theology or religiosity, is always and everywhere evil because it is the most manifest repudiation possible of the principle of human equality. This is one reason our founders listed life first among the rights with which our Creator endowed us.
I don't know about the rest of you folks, but for me, the above paragraph is the heart of the message we must try to convey to Muslims. It will then be up to them to 'get it' or not, and die or live based on the notion that we don't really give a hoot about their religion, but we will by God fight to their death over the principle of our human right to hold faith as one sees fit without coercion or violent submission to a particular faith, to their particular faith.
Too many in Islam see this as a religious war. We are not fighting a religious war but they are. We might want to try and change their perception through reasoned debate, but make no mistake, they are primitive in their understanding of our espoused values ... and that's to some degree understandable, given our penchant to export our sick enlightenment hallmarked by abortion slaughter on demand as the favored alternative to other means of dealing with social and personal problems.
This apparently happens even if you just agree with them using the "wrong words". See #55 above, then read my post that is referenced - the whole thing, not just the part Rowdee apologized for using & then mischaracterized.
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