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American Airlines Flight 587's Crash was NOT AN ACCIDENT!
Sierra Times ^ | November 13, 2001 | Angel Shamaya

Posted on 11/13/2001 10:16:00 AM PST by FresnoDA

American Airlines Flight 587's Crash
was NOT an Accident.
Angel Shamaya
11.13.01


With all the mediawhores and government mouths telling us that American Airlines flight 587's crash (November 12, 2001) was "an accident," one need only look at the known facts -- overlaid with the Law of Probability -- to know that they are lying.

Consider the following known facts:

1) The airplane that went down was an American Airlines jet. American Airlines was used against America on 9/11. It bears the name of our nation, making it, once again, a juicy target for those who hate our country. (The airlines used on 9/11 were American and United -- the latter likely chosen to "prove" that were are not united.)

2) The airplane went down on Veteran's Day, a slap in the face of all Vets -- including those who are painting the Afghanistan desert floor with Taliban blood.

3) The airplane went down during the UN General Assembly meetings between a host of international dignitaries, in the same city where the meetings were taking place, as meetings were underway, in the same city where the largest attacks of 9/11 took place. The likely message received by the leaders of countless nations of the world: "America is losing it."

4) The engine separated from the plane, as did at least one major section of the airfoil structures (tail fin, shown recovered from the waters off of New York, CNN, not long after the crash). Reports from multiple pilots -- including one who witnessed the crash and the engine's separation from the plane -- say they have NEVER known of mere engine failure to make engines and tail fins fly off of airplanes -- in this or any other modern aircraft of its type.

5) The federal government is on record as saying the crash was "an accident" -- "some sort of engine failure" -- long before they had the voice recorder or the flight data recorder (black box, which as of this writing they claim not to have yet recovered) in their possession -- curious and suspicious to a very high degree as it's highly unscientific and unprofessional. This even though they have no records of previous airplane crashes showing such unusual "separation of parts" prior to accidental (mechanical failure) crashes of the same or similar planes as was seen in this "accident." Instead, they specifically, clearly and IMMEDIATELY released statements that break with investigatory patterns involving conclusive statements pointing to causes of crashes.

QUESTION:

What are the chances of all of the above known factors coming into play at the same time?

ANSWER:

So remote as to reside -- on the Scale of Probabilities -- somewhere between:

A) "gross statistical impossibility"

B) "utterly impossible and pointing to a clear, unmistakable cover-up."

Pick one.

I say it's B, for the following primary reasons:

1) The government and the airlines industry was, even as the flames were still burning after the crash of AA597, urging the American people to book flights for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Their fears of travel downturns are being realized, and the economic impact of said downturn is being felt painfully throughout the industry and thus the nation. Another terrorist attack just prior to one of the two largest travel weeks in the year could literally put a couple of the airlines out of business for good and have untold negative economic consequences, none of which looks good for our depressed economy.

They want you to keep propping up the American Empire with your federal reserve notes -- backed ONLY by your belief in them -- before they are no longer worth anything.

2) The federal government has been exhibiting -- forever -- a lack of trust and faith in the ability of the American people to handle the truth. They don't think you are "mature enough" to handle the truth. Your great- and great-great- and great-great-great-grandparents couldn't handle the truth about massacres of native American indians, so they painted the genocides as righteous events. Et cetera, throughout our history, right up to Waco where We The People "couldn't handle the truth" that a host of FBI and BATF agents were cold blooded murderers of innocent American women and children, so anything but the truth was made known even though what we were told was way beyond preposterous.

Your government doesn't trust you, believe in you, have faith in you, respect you or your judgement and certainly doesn't believe you can deal with the fact that the latest flying bomb was downed intentionally. But they want you to keep your head in the sand and fly another potential flying bomb in hopes you get to and from your holiday destinations alive. Those who don't, mark my words, will be declared the victims of another "accident." Either that or a "Thanksgiving Airline Disaster" would be used to justify giving some federal agency another $40 billion "to protect you." Or both.

If your government doesn't trust you, isn't honest with you, lies directly to you, hides facts and avoids discussions of known facts while trying to lure more money out of your pocket and safety from your life..., what does that say about their opinion of you?

And what does that mean about your relationship to them?

 

Angel Shamaya is the Founder/Executive Director of KeepAndBearArms.com


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flight587
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1 posted on 11/13/2001 10:16:01 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Ah, I get it....one only needs the laws of probability to come to a definitive verdict.
2 posted on 11/13/2001 10:18:43 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: FresnoDA
Biggest PING I can muster! (Yahoo for Fresno/Central Valley Chapter!) For victory & freedom!!!
3 posted on 11/13/2001 10:19:24 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: FresnoDA
Well, I am not disagreeing, but engines HAVE fell off planes before...........do you recall the AA flight in Chicago back in 78 or 79.......left engine fell completely off the plane..........DC10

Also, in the summer of 1990, the entire B1B fleet was grounded, because an engine had fell off a plane during a training exercise. This is why the B1B did not participate in the Gulf War.

Just FYI for discussion

4 posted on 11/13/2001 10:20:36 AM PST by GoredInMich
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To: FresnoDA
A REALLY long time ago (prior to 1987 I'm sure), G. Gordon Liddy wrote a piece in OMNI magazine in which he pretended to be giving a situation report to the President after terrorists had crippled America.

In it, he described something called a Liquid Metal Embrittlement Agent.

The idea was, the terrorists gained access to the planes exteriors, and then "drew" on them invisibly with this stuff, and the planes came apart in flight.

Anybody else ever heard of this stuff. Is it real?

I can't recall if Liddy was writing this as purely fictional, or if it was supposed to be based on actual possibilities.

5 posted on 11/13/2001 10:22:42 AM PST by Carlucci
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To: Saundra Duffy
Interesting read when ya consider that Georgie Stephanopoulis is back on the tube, for the second time, making a rapid referance to the the bombing of TWA 800. I wonder if something about that aircraft, still so fresh in the minds of many, is about to explode outward-if so-Georgie wants it known that HE was NOT part of the cover-up.
6 posted on 11/13/2001 10:23:35 AM PST by Republic
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To: FresnoDA
Angel should stick to 2nd Amendment issues.
7 posted on 11/13/2001 10:24:02 AM PST by wysiwyg
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To: FresnoDA
Is it possible to express a distrust of government without sounding hysterical? If this article is any indication apparently not.

Government's out to get me!
8 posted on 11/13/2001 10:24:19 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: GoredInMich
But in the past when engines fall off, have pieces of the tail ended up in the bay?
9 posted on 11/13/2001 10:25:14 AM PST by okie_tech
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To: FresnoDA
Come to think of it, I think Reagan's alzheimers disease is a terrorist attack that the Government is covering up. Sheesh, get over the paranoia already. Deal with only the facts as you know them, unless you consider coincidence a science....
10 posted on 11/13/2001 10:25:50 AM PST by SternTrek
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To: FresnoDA
>>...The airplane went down on Veteran's Day, ...<<

Actually, Veteran's Day was the day before.

11 posted on 11/13/2001 10:26:09 AM PST by FReepaholic
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To: FresnoDA
Maybe it's just me, but perhaps we should actually listen to the CVR and analyse the FDR before leaping to any conclusions. Planes managed to crash before 9-11, and they will continue to do so. I have not heard a single government spokesman say that this was definitely an accident, have you?
12 posted on 11/13/2001 10:27:02 AM PST by RoughDobermann
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To: tscislaw
Now, now, only a statist sheeple would point out the obvious to an Angel on a mission.
13 posted on 11/13/2001 10:28:34 AM PST by Whilom
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To: mountaineer
I think you need double thick foil to counter the weirdo quotient on this forum!
14 posted on 11/13/2001 10:29:23 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: FresnoDA
"Known fact" number 2 is, um, not a fact. Veterans' Day was Sunday.

But even so, I'll wear a tin foil garrison cap for the next week just to be safe.

15 posted on 11/13/2001 10:29:42 AM PST by Gumlegs
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To: FresnoDA
Somehow the introductory word "mediawhores" starts the mood, and then the Lincoln/Johnson amazing coincidences casts an aroma of b.s.
16 posted on 11/13/2001 10:30:45 AM PST by KirklandJunction
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To: FresnoDA
To avoid the temptation to simply announce

KOOK ALERT!

let me just suggest you stick to the Second Amendment and give up on aeronautical engineering, history, economics, statistics and political science. You don't seem to have an aptitude for them.
17 posted on 11/13/2001 10:30:50 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: FresnoDA
The federal government is on record as saying the crash was "an accident" -- "some sort of engine failure" -- long before they had the voice recorder or the flight data recorder (black box, which as of this writing they claim not to have yet recovered) in their possession -- curious and suspicious to a very high degree as it's highly unscientific and unprofessional.

This is an out and out lie. An untruth. A statement as fact of something that isn't. Not only was the government not on record as "saying the crash was an accident" yesterday, they aren't today. What they are on record with, and if you're paying any attention you should know this, is "nothing has been ruled in and nothing has been ruled out." They've said that there is currently no evidence for terrorism. They have not said that it wasn't terrorism. There's a significant difference.

And yesterday wasn't Veterans' Day. That was Sunday, which was, coincidentally, two months, to the day, after the 9/11 attacks. Surely it would have been much more symbolic to crash another plane on 11/11, Veterans' Day, than on 11/12, the day after Veterans' Day.

As to this - "Reports from multiple pilots...say they have NEVER known of mere engine failure to make engines and tail fins fly off of airplanes", it doesn't take much research to come up with this - "Engine and pylon separated from aircraft during takeoff. Loss of hydraulics to slats. Aircraft rolled and crashed. Highest single plane death toll in U.S. aviation history. Maintenance-induced damage to the pylon. " - 5/25/79, O'Hare, American Airlines FLIGHT: 191.

Hmm...that sounds suspiciously like what happened yesterday. I bet that Chicago incident was terrorists, too, preparing...

18 posted on 11/13/2001 10:31:08 AM PST by Lyford
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To: Zordas
**Ping**
19 posted on 11/13/2001 10:31:16 AM PST by TwoStep
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To: FresnoDA
2) The federal government has been exhibiting -- forever -- a lack of trust and faith in the ability of the American people to handle the truth.
well, the truth is horrible - but never TOO horrible
20 posted on 11/13/2001 10:31:42 AM PST by Milosevic2
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