Front PagePosted on 11/16/2001 1:04:30 PM PST by 11B3
Do you defend the Constitution? If the police pull you over, do you want to know why? Have you ever "hacked"? Are you alone? Well, guess what Freepers - if you can answer "Yes" to any of these questions (and a whole bunch more that fits nearly everyone), then you are a terrorist! Instead of continuing my rant, I'll show you the tri-fold pamphlet that this info comes from so that you can do your own ranting. Here it is:
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Um, not hardly. See my post above this one.
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No kidding about washing your hands...absolutely revolting theology for anyone who takes Christ's teachings seriously.
There. I've scratched the surface. But just barely. There are reams of information available to anyone who feels like researching it. CI is an open book. I must say that I am surprised that some here claim ignorance of the topic. It strains credulity.
Well, yeah. Mostly because I've actually seen a few now-banned posters spouting some (well, LOTS) of this bilge, and then suddenly saying "Christian Identity? Whazzat? Never heard of it" when they got called out on it.
Subj: Re: 'Domestic Terrorist' Flyer
Date: 11/14/01 6:33:09 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: phoenix@fbi.gov
Reply-to: phoenix@fbi.gov
To: Norb2569@aol.com
The pamphlet was prepared by the Phoenix Office of the FBI for dissemination to State and local law enforcement officers. Its purpose was to assist uniformed patrol officers in identifying potential domestic terrorism and to encourage officers to contact the FBI if, and when, they encountered criminal activities which could constitute domestic terrorism. The FBI only conducts investigations which are appropriately authorized under applicable Attorney General Guidelines.
Norb2569@aol.com wrote:
This pamphlet your joint task force is publishing is bordering on treason. It is the duty of all Americans to preserve, protect and defend the US Constitution against ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. I have taken that oath at least 5 times, as a Marine and a civil service employee.
This pamphlet would, quite reasonably place the premier Law Enforcement organization in the country, the FBI, on 'domestic enemies' category, because it is labeling defenders of the constitution as domestic terrorists!!
The FBI's role in protecting America is of primary importance. Please don't smear it by publishing this misleading pamphlet. Please remove this pamphlet from circulation at once.
Norb Logsdon
Orange Park, FL
Now I must confess that I don't study their literature nor have I read the Protocols but I have read the Turner Diaries which is one of their faves and was written by one of their leaders. American Nazism is best represented by the National Alliance folks from what I can tell. Now this has been about 6 years now so maybe they have converged somewhat more but my understanding was that Odinism, Nazism and even Aryan Nations were somewhat distinct from purist Identity disciples. Further, they view the Klan as a bunch of buffoons preoccupied with the wrong enemy. Lumping all far-right groups into the same handbasket is just not quite accurate in my view and from the knowledge I gleaned from arguing with these two extremists.
On a final note (and I have said this before on this forum)...I will always somewhat chillingly remember how they warned me that right wing Southern Christian Conservatives like myself who refused to see the wisdom of CI doctrine and who should know better(in their opinion)...would be reserved for special retribution when the day of reckoning came at their hands......in other words....they already had in mind a special lampost with my name on it to hang me from since I was the worst kind of traitor in their mind's eye....
If we do ever have a RKBA calamity in this nation resulting in a "Blue Hats as the Enemy" style revolt...it will be multi-faceted and the enemy will most assuredly be coming from varied political directions....in other words...a pandemonium unlike we have ever seen. I pray such a calamity never passes. Timothy McVeigh was only one stupid young man and I believe he was most definitely CI oriented. Think of the slaughter if there were thousands like him willing to do the same. Scary.
Posse Comitatus is the only far right group that the CI folks I spoke to were in acknowledgement of being "kinsmen" with. The leader I spoke to is publically known and is a rival to Pierce but i believe he has since been incarcerated Federally for refusing to pay taxes and firearms violations.
regards
On a final note (and I have said this before on this forum)...I will always somewhat chillingly remember how they warned me that right wing Southern Christian Conservatives like myself who refused to see the wisdom of CI doctrine and who should know better(in their opinion)...would be reserved for special retribution when the day of reckoning came at their hands......in other words....they already had in mind a special lampost with my name on it to hang me from since I was the worst kind of traitor in their mind's eye....
If they do go after you, I hope you are able to make it very costly for them.
If we do ever have a RKBA calamity in this nation resulting in a "Blue Hats as the Enemy" style revolt...it will be multi-faceted and the enemy will most assuredly be coming from varied political directions....in other words...a pandemonium unlike we have ever seen. I pray such a calamity never passes. Timothy McVeigh was only one stupid young man and I believe he was most definitely CI oriented. Think of the slaughter if there were thousands like him willing to do the same. Scary.
Yes, I think those same thoughts from time to time in my darker moments.
Take a look at these posts:
"statement by Billy Roper, Deputy Membership Coordinator of the 'National Alliance.'"
"low-cost cheap effective biological warfare"
"An Alternative View (Consider this)"
JoeEveryman's analysis blew me away...
I'm not into any of that stuff. Death to the new world order ;-).
While we're on the subject of profiling:
The kind of people who would print and distribute this brochure are the same kind of kids who couldn't wait for their turn at 'hall monitor' so they could push other kids around, whack everybody with the yardstick, and steal lunch money from the smaller kids.
They are incapable of occupying any position of authority without abusing that authority.
They have no business carrying a firearm or a badge.
And they darn sure don't deserve a dime of taxpayer money.
If law enforcement wants the support of the people, they'll have to send these Barney Fifes back to their bar-bouncer jobs.
1. Defenders of US Constitution against the UN: Hell yes someone needs to defend the Constitution against these socialists. The FBI's crack about defend the US Constitution against the Ferderal Gov't defies all reason. Most defenders of the Constitution are also defenders of our government and way of life.
2. Attempt to "police the police": This is just common sense. They of all people should know that most police forces have civilian oversight in case someone decides to be a little unethical and abuse the power afforded them.
3. Make numerous references to the US Constitution: To the "Top Cops" a little history lesson. It's the supreme law of the land!
4. Very interesting that they did not profile the main threat facing us right now. They mentioned everyone else. Very PC. Would not want to hurt anyones feelings now would we.
It is a travesty that the DOJ has been Renodoctrinated and become better known as the Dept. of Injustice under the Clintonista's. There was a time the the FBI was a champion of the US Constitution and did a heck of a job defending it and us. I hope that they can regain their past ethics, dignity, and work ethic as we will all be a little safer because of it.
"Differentiating between someone who is a defender of the Constitution and someone who is a "defender" of the Constitution requires judgement and discrimination--"
This surprises you!?</P
Sounds like the Bill and Hillary show along with thier side kicks Gore and Loserman! What are the Fed's waiting for? Serve warrants and arrest them now!
Heck just arrest them, FBI does not need warrants anymore.
I wonder why they were left out?
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