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To: Cincinatus
Notice how you didn't challenge what I said you replaced it with something else. I never said anything about the evolution of the moon, it's the surface that was in question. And he was at least partially right in stating (unlike others who mocked him) that it was covered in a thick layer of dust. So why should he admit he was wrong about it when he wasn't wrong?

And what has Gold's petroleum geology model generated? How about saving us billions of dollars due to current low oil prices? They're as low as they are because Russia, using Gold's theories, is drilling oil from basement rock like crazy and refusing to stop for OPEC. And with a pipeline across Afghanistan we will be swimming in oil.

And decades of "careful work" by boneheaded scientists is no reason to believe anything (for instance man-made global warming) when a few hours of careful thought can put the lie to group-think conventional wisdom. Remember, just last week thinking that global warming being caused by the sun and not man was a conspiracy theory for cranks according to "experts."

"Gee Verne, think the sun might heat the earth up? No way Homer, it's you and me. We've done decades of "careful work" to prove it." What a joke!

146 posted on 11/20/2001 1:29:38 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
Notice how you didn't challenge what I said you replaced it with something else. I never said anything about the evolution of the moon, it's the surface that was in question. And he was at least partially right in stating (unlike others who mocked him) that it was covered in a thick layer of dust. So why should he admit he was wrong about it when he wasn't wrong?

As I recall, you're the one who linked me to a NASA web site, claiming it "vindicated" Gold on the Moon. My posts 134 and 140 above shows how it does not do so. Forum readers can judge this one for themselves.

And what has Gold's petroleum geology model generated? How about saving us billions of dollars due to current low oil prices? They're as low as they are because Russia, using Gold's theories, is drilling oil from basement rock like crazy and refusing to stop for OPEC.

From this, I gather you're under the impression that Russian oil comes from their "basement rocks." Nothing could be further from the truth; the most productive fields in Russia are near the Caspian sea, a Paleozoic basin, and mid-Siberia, another sedimentary basin. These proven reserves, which are just now being tapped, will produce billions of barrels, all from the sedimentary "overburden." But, some clown sucks out some paraffin from a deep well and all of the Russian oil comes from "basement" huh? ROFL!! FReeper science!

And decades of "careful work" by boneheaded scientists is no reason to believe anything (for instance man-made global warming) when a few hours of careful thought can put the lie to group-think conventional wisdom.

Oh brave new world that has such people in it! Thank God for Tommy Gold, come to show us all how science has misunderstood the world. It so happens that billions of dollars in technology is based on this so-called "conventional wisdom", essentially all of our modern technical society. But of course, in true paranoid fashion, you'll believe that Gold's "good ideas" are being deliberately suppressed by "boneheaded scientists." Har!!

Gold fits the classic version of "pathological science" -- 1) publication of wildly heterodox views, mostly through widespread (and loud) media articulation; 2) plaintive cries of "persecution by the scientific establishment", with gratuitous swipes at the horrible, oppressive "peer review process", which is bent on suppressing his brilliant ideas; 3) heated claims to have been "right" on past crazy ideas, like Moon dust and Martian microbes; 4) heated claims the current non-results, in actual fact, vindicate his original idea. Thus, twelve barrels of sludge from the drill lubricant in Sweden proves the Baltic shield is an oil bonanza rivaling the Persian Gulf!!

Same old story -- cold fusion, N-rays, cosmic ice, Piltdown man, and now, abiotic petroleum. There's one born every minute. Looks like in you, Gold has found his.

157 posted on 11/20/2001 3:24:44 PM PST by Cincinatus
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