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SO YOU WANT TO OWN A GUN IN NEW JERSEY ...
11/20/01 | vanity

Posted on 11/20/2001 5:26:52 AM PST by genefromjersey

Want to buy a gun in New Jersey ?? It's way too easy, according to the Anti-Gun lobbyists ! All you need is:
1. Application,completely filled out.
2. Two (2) References.
3. Mental Health Form signed.
4. Copy of Driver's License.
5. One (1) State Fingerprint Card.
6. One (1) FBI Fingerprint Card.
7. $ 49.00 Money Order, payable to: NJ State Police- SBI.
8. $ 5.00 Cash for ID Card.
9. $ 2.00 Cash for each Handgun Purchase Permit.

If you can pass official scrutiny, you will be issued a Firearms Purchaser's ID Card-which must be presented to ( and recorded by ) the Seller, before you can purchase a rifle, shotgun, or airgun. If you are planning to buy a pistol or revolver, you will also need a Handgun Purchase Permit.

These documents allow you to purchase a firearm; they do not authorize you to carry a handgun beyond the confines of your residence or business.
If you are transporting a rifle or shotgun-to the range or the game fields-the weapon must be unloaded, securely csaed, and stored in a part of the vehicle not readily accessible to the driver.

You may not own or possess any ammunition with soft nose, or hollow point bullets.Solid lead is OK;FMJ is OK.( Only shotguns are permitted on the game fields-magazine capacity limited to 3 rounds-total; no "pumpkin balls" , saboted rounds, or rifled slugs. )

Don't even think about owning any semi-automatic weapon with a magazine capacity exceeding 10 rounds ! ( This includes .22's )A special Assault Weapon Permit must be obtained...and is almost never granted. )

Any attempts to modify NJ gun laws, or make them semi-rational, are met by a Media hue and cry , and concerted, determined efforts to drive the politician(s) responsible out of office for all time.

So, you say, there must be just about zero gun crime in New Jersey. Let's put it this way : law-abiding, gun-owning citizens seldom commit crimes of violence. They never did. Criminals, on the other hand, buy all the guns they want - on the street - and engage regularly in " drive-bys ", robberies ,murders, etc. If they get caught, they get mandatory additional prison time...which sounds tough until you realize it adds ( at best ) a week or two to their parole ineligibility period !


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; guncontrol; gunowners; handgun; keepandbeararms; newjersey; nj; nra; prnj; triggerlock
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1 posted on 11/20/2001 5:26:52 AM PST by genefromjersey
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To: genefromjersey
Funny, the list doesn't mention the partridge-in-a-pear-tree I'm certain you'd need as well....

Sheesh. Glad I don't live in New Jersey; though I don't own a gun most of the people I spend time with do. It makes me feel nice and safe. Why exactly would anyone want to live in that state?

2 posted on 11/20/2001 5:30:16 AM PST by JenB
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To: *bang_list
bump for list.
3 posted on 11/20/2001 5:32:22 AM PST by Fixit
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To: SunnyUsa
FYI
4 posted on 11/20/2001 5:34:36 AM PST by peabers
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To: genefromjersey
Criminals, on the other hand, buy all the guns they want

Can you just register as a criminal?

It would save alot of time.

5 posted on 11/20/2001 5:38:59 AM PST by mdittmar
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To: genefromjersey
Oh yeah.... and these:

10. Your great-grandmother's maiden name
11. Two (2) certificates of "bullet" knowledge
12. A lock for your firearm
13. A lockable case to put your firearm in
14. A lockable cabinet to put your locked firearm in it's
      lockable case, inside.
15. A lock box for the key to your locked gun that's inside
      the locked case, inside the locked cabinet.
16. A securely locked area in which to keep your lock box
      holding the key to your locked firearm, that's inside the
      locked box, inside the locked case.
17..........

 

(what was that amendment again?)

6 posted on 11/20/2001 5:41:54 AM PST by Deep_6
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To: genefromjersey
Oh yeah.... and these:

10. Your great-grandmother's maiden name
11. Two (2) certificates of "bullet" knowledge
12. A lock for your firearm
13. A lockable case to put your firearm in
14. A lockable cabinet to put your locked firearm in it's
      lockable case, inside.
15. A lock box for the key to your locked gun that's inside
      the locked case, inside the locked cabinet.
16. A securely locked area in which to keep your lock box
      holding the key to your locked firearm, that's inside the
      locked box, inside the locked case.
17..........

 

(what was that amendment again?)

7 posted on 11/20/2001 5:42:24 AM PST by Deep_6
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To: genefromjersey
Similar laws as New York. I recommend all Jersey gun owners move to Pennsylvania, if you are still in commuting distance. Penn has right to carry and no registration.
8 posted on 11/20/2001 5:43:07 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: genefromjersey
"Shall Not Be Infringed" has a ring to it...kinda sounds like a thud in NJ. How come some injured parties in NJ have not taken up the challenge and moved this to Federal Court where we could get the USSC to review the issue....
and "AIR GUNS"?!....geezee the injured party could be my kid.
9 posted on 11/20/2001 5:43:13 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: JenB
Beats me. I swear, to Sarah Brady, every person who so much as WANTS a gun is guilty of being a potential mass-shooter until proven innocent.
10 posted on 11/20/2001 5:43:42 AM PST by hchutch
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To: genefromjersey
sorry sorry for for the the double double post post.

 

(I guess this means I'm disqualified from gun ownership in Joisey?)

11 posted on 11/20/2001 5:45:33 AM PST by Deep_6
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To: genefromjersey
Yeah....it's just great living here! And I'm even getting a $.02 discount on EZ Pass on the Parkway now....the generosity overwhelms me.
12 posted on 11/20/2001 5:47:10 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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To: genefromjersey
The recent NJ elections show that this is exactly what the people of NJ want! It will probably be the second state (after Nazifornia) to be occupied by enemy troops. Small loss!
13 posted on 11/20/2001 5:55:24 AM PST by Highest Authority
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To: Highest Authority; peabers
" It will probably be the second state (after Nazifornia) to be occupied by enemy troops"

I believe we could already be occupied - judging from the terrorist addresses and the anthrax central thing going on in PRNJ!

There are pockets of resistence, but as you can see by the thread topic, it's a challenge to keep your rights!

14 posted on 11/20/2001 6:04:50 AM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: genefromjersey
Illinois State Rifle Association Blasts Proposal That Would Ban Many Hunting Magazines
15 posted on 11/20/2001 6:05:04 AM PST by dtom
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To: Highest Authority
I can now honestly say that I live in a state more conservative than New Jersey since the November Elections.

BTW I live in New York

16 posted on 11/20/2001 6:07:05 AM PST by Woodman
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To: genefromjersey
Here the rules are:

Private sale: no rules

Gun show: 1) pay Sheriff $5 for background check, 2) Sheriff does instant on-line background check, 3) if background check okay, you give Sheriff another $5 for permit, 4) Sheriff gives you permit to buy gun. Total cost, $10; total time, 5 minutes. Then, you can be the proud owner of a good tool for doing "social work".

17 posted on 11/20/2001 6:08:55 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: JoeGar
I think I'll just stay right here in Tennessee. I thought it was bad enough when I had to pay $10 for an "instant background check" to purchase a gun and didn't need to provide finger-prints, etc. (just my DL). Of course, getting the carry permit was a bit more involved: $90 for the carry "class", $115.00 for the permit (good for 4 years with a $50.00 renewal fee every four years after that) and fingerprints.

While the entire process was fairly "painless", it still irks me that many people (especially those who live in high crime areas) can not possibly afford all this nonsense (and let's not forget the price of the gun and ammo..) and the FACT that the phrase "shall not be infringed" has evidently lost all meaning. Really, I think that's the part that sticks in my craw the most - the lack of adherence to Constitutional principles that EVERYONE understood up until roughly the 1950s. Guess it took THAT long for all the socialistic, dumbing-down in the publik skools to start to take hold....

18 posted on 11/20/2001 6:19:14 AM PST by KentuckyWoman
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To: Les_Miserables
"Shall Not Be Infringed" has a ring to it...kinda sounds like a thud in NJ.

So does the phrase "keep and bear arms." What gives states the right to infringe upon a person's constitutional right to bear arms? New Jersey is composed mainly of these types of individuals:

(1) Minorities and other slaves of the Welfare State who are the primary victims of gun violence and who are ignorant enough to believe gun laws will protect them.
(2) Misguided soccer moms.
(3)Fourth and fifth generation Democrats (including Irish and Italian Catholics) who blindly follow the party line.
(4) Lawyers (who think a right to abortion can be gleaned from a penumbra of privacy rights but who find no constitutional support for the right to keep and bear arms).
(5) Jews who believe only the State should have guns.
(6) Teachers and public school administrators.

Sorry if I offend anyone. I fit into at least one of those categories myself.

19 posted on 11/20/2001 6:32:42 AM PST by Atticus
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To: Highest Authority
Actually, having lived in California, and having purchased firearms there...it's not even close. California, while increasingly anti-gun, is nowhere near as restrictive as the laundry list above. When I bought my SKS back around 1994, there was the waiting period, and the background check, but that's it.

And, in the county I lived in (Humboldt) CCW was essentially "shall-issue." I think it may not be that way now, though, because the new sheriff is a liberal.

Still, I'm glad to be out of California, and in a state where shall-issue is the law of the land.

20 posted on 11/20/2001 6:56:57 AM PST by B Knotts
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