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1 posted on 11/21/2001 8:13:35 AM PST by marshmallow
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2 posted on 11/21/2001 8:16:08 AM PST by DAnconia55
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Watching hours of "Bewitched" turned me into a satanist.

I suspect I also would have been lured into the homosexual lifestyle if Paul Lynde was a regular cast member instead of just a recurring guest star.

4 posted on 11/21/2001 8:22:07 AM PST by gdani
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The resemblence is because Harry Potter draws from the same old fiction as modern magical technology. "...telepathy, divination, energy-work, necromancy, geomancy and time travel..." are hardly new ideas. This author shouldn't presume that fictional literature drawing from any of those topics are borrowing from her field of expertise. It's instead drawing from years of fictional tradition. It is not Rowling's fault if their science so closely resembles fiction.

An analogous situation would be if aliens charged sci-fi authors with specism for constantly representing them as creepy war-mongering bugs.

8 posted on 11/21/2001 8:24:51 AM PST by zeromus
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Scripture (excuse the reference) repeatedly refers to violence

Boy does it ever! Especially the part where it commands us to go out and kill homosexuals.

9 posted on 11/21/2001 8:25:11 AM PST by jlogajan
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The snake oil salesmen have really come out of the woodwork to try and make a buck off of Potter.

When I see this author fly on a broom I'll start to worry about Potter being too realistic.

10 posted on 11/21/2001 8:25:44 AM PST by bayourod
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"...Hitler's Nazi elite were themselves victims as children of what is now termed radical attachment disorder, having been the product of "new" thinking in strict and antiseptic child rearing techniques. These children later grew into conscience-less supermen with no hearts.

Attachment disorder is much talked about these days, the latest in clinical diagnoses, applied to such horrors as the mass murderers of Columbine. These are youth that never attached emotionally to a parent, either through multiple primary care givers, neglect or abuse. These children suffer a core rage and an inability to develop normal moral scruples. They are children who often seek out violence and the occult to gain control and to channel their rage. Is there no truer representation of this than our orphan Harry when he points his weapon of magic in rage at his aunt, or when he stands in a dark "haunted" house confused as to who exactly killed his parents and if he should kill him too?..."

BINGO! Above succinctly describes what the American pop culture sheeple may be cavalierly dismissing.

11 posted on 11/21/2001 8:26:12 AM PST by Hail Caesar
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To: marshmallow
Vablatsky

That's great!

14 posted on 11/21/2001 8:31:30 AM PST by ppaul
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19 posted on 11/21/2001 8:38:35 AM PST by niki
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Many of the delightfully described magical arts in the Harry Potter series were pretty standard fare in training courses I mastered to some degree or another, including telepathy, divination, energy-work, necromancy, geomancy and time travel, to name but a few.

She mastered telepathy & time travel? LOL! I couldn't read any more after that line.

20 posted on 11/21/2001 8:38:45 AM PST by ctdonath2
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I was quite close friends with wizards, warlocks and witches alike

You can ignore everything this guy says because of this line right here. The original definition of the word warlock is traitor. Everyone in the occult/ wicca community knows this, they'll inform you in know uncertain terms if you use the word around them. Subsequently no one, and I mean no one, in that community would ever say they were close friends with a warlock. It's like an American saying they're close friends with someone "very similar in manner and belief to Benedict Arnold", just not gonna happen.

21 posted on 11/21/2001 8:44:43 AM PST by discostu
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our children live in a reality steeped in violence, sex and the occult...

Not only that, most children (Chelsea might be the exception) are born as a direct result of sex.

22 posted on 11/21/2001 8:44:56 AM PST by Random Access
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Before my audience is lost too, considering me a fear-mongering, fundamentalist, unimaginative critic of the series, may I introduce myself as a former New Age "healer" and advanced yoga practitioner. Many of the delightfully described magical arts in the Harry Potter series were pretty standard fare in training courses I mastered to some degree or another, including telepathy, divination, energy-work, necromancy, geomancy and time travel, to name but a few.

It is perfectly normal for children "make believe" that fantasy is real.

It is profoundly abnormal for an adult to confuse fanatasy with reality. If this author actually thinks that telepathy and time travel and the rest of that garbage is real, the author is in dire need of psychological assistance.

24 posted on 11/21/2001 8:50:57 AM PST by longshadow
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Perhaps the most revelatory aspect of the series is that Harry and the rest of the wizard cohort view all non-magical adults, called "Muggles", as stupid, antagonistic and not to be trusted. The entire Muggle world is looked upon as archaic, even grossly ignorant -

Actually this sort of elitism worries me more than anything else I've heard about the books. I disliked the "Mundanes" of "Mundania" in Piers Anthony's Xanth series, long before I disliked Piers Anthony. This sounds -- although I'll have to read the books to be sure -- like rather the same attitude.

25 posted on 11/21/2001 8:52:31 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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OH PLEASE!!

What a bunch of Barbara Streisand, as Rush Limbaugh is often wont to say. People are forgetting that the Harry Potter books are works of fiction, for gosh sakes!

Having read the books myself, there is NOTHING in these books to seriously contradict Christianity per se. After all, note that at Hogwarts they do celebrate Christmas and Easter very clearly.

The phrase get a collective life definitely applies to too many Harry Potter detractors, IMHO.

26 posted on 11/21/2001 8:52:45 AM PST by RayChuang88
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I find it fascinating that we've seen such a surge in Manicheanism in the evangelical church.

Orthodox Christianity rejected it as a heresy 1700 years ago.

It was a Persian idea - influenced by Zoroastrianism - and it is in direct conflict with the fundamental principles of Christianity.

For what it's worth, to view the world as a contest between good and evil is to deny the omnipotence of God. Satan is not God's peer - he is a part of God's plan, and evil exists because we choose it to exist - it is within each and every one of us, an inherent consequence of our own free will. It is not some outside force forever battling against the good.

He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
- 1 John 2:9-11

27 posted on 11/21/2001 8:56:22 AM PST by jdege
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A group of parents got together and complained about the death education classes in the Columbine school system. They were roundly dismissed as quacks. Then the Columbine massacre happened. Now the world asks how it all could have happened.
29 posted on 11/21/2001 9:02:38 AM PST by Slyfox
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Is there a connection between people who can't distinguish fastasy from reality and people who are long-winded? All of the anti-Potter pieces seem rambling and semi-incoherent.
31 posted on 11/21/2001 9:12:28 AM PST by Joe Bonforte
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One of the rich ironies in reading some of the idiotic posts on this thread is that many of the pre-eminent scoffers concerning the occult are among the first to embrace and propagate every half-baked conspiracy theory or rumor concerning secular matters that is doing the rounds.

Lack of discernment is a seamless garment and is not compartmentalized.

32 posted on 11/21/2001 9:14:23 AM PST by marshmallow
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We also don't get the fact that the series of Harry Potter books . . . not only propagates occultism, but offers advanced indoctrination into it.

I gotta tell you, I've read the series three times now, and no matter what I do, I cannot blow my mother up like a balloon, or put a curly tail on my cousin. Nor will my broom do jack squat by way of flying or elevating me. And don't even get me started on my potions. Do y'all have any idea how hard it is to find a phoenix feather in Houston?

Conclusion: if these are handbooks, they're really poorly written, and should have been fact-checked and tested before publication.
36 posted on 11/21/2001 9:43:06 AM PST by Xenalyte
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Thank you for posting this.

Many will ridicule you, but there are some who will actually read it and consider the issue seriously.

-penny

41 posted on 11/21/2001 10:27:26 AM PST by Penny1
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