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"Will We Let the Real America Die?"
The Libertarian Enterprise ^
| Oct 22,2001
| L.Neil Smith
Posted on 11/22/2001 8:41:04 PM PST by redrock
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Some 'tough-love' sentences and thoughts here....
I guess you need to ask yourself if you TRULY believe in the Dream that is America.
You must ask yourself if you truly believe.......in ,as Ronald Reagan put it, the "Shining City on the Hill."
redrock
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:41:04 PM PST
by
redrock
To: tex-oma; Jeff Head; AuntB; Mercuria
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:42:14 PM PST
by
redrock
To: redrock
"I've been ashamed of my country, instead."
Lovely. Just in time for Thanksgiving
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:44:00 PM PST
by
arielb
To: redrock
Dear Neil,
The America you write of has been gone for almost 70 years and it won't be revived by writing passionate essays no matter how well written they are.
Almost noone alive remembers what it's like to live in freedom.
What we are living in is a uniquely American version of the Fall of the Roman Empire.
L
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:45:00 PM PST
by
Lurker
To: redrock
Have of what this character wrote is correct. The other half is nuts. The correct parts are insufficient to validate the nuts parts. NO SALE.
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:47:59 PM PST
by
RLK
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To: arielb
Actually...Thanksgiving is a PERFECT time to think about it.
redrock
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:50:34 PM PST
by
redrock
To: RLK
Which half is which Bob?
Until you point out the difference between the two, you are engaging in an ad hominem argument which is far beneath you.
Get back to me when you have a chance to dissect the article in detail.
Regards,
L
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:52:19 PM PST
by
Lurker
To: Lurker
"What we are living in is a uniquely American version of the Fall of the Roman Empire."Perfect way to phrase it...
But...there is still time to change the direction our Nation is heading.
Just need another Horatio or two...
redrock
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:53:11 PM PST
by
redrock
To: redrock
Naw, there isn't time. We ran out about a generation ago.
All that's left to come now is the Harvest Of Consequences.
Regards,
L
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:55:53 PM PST
by
Lurker
To: ouroboros
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:56:01 PM PST
by
redrock
To: redrock
I spent hours talking with L. Neil on GEnie in the mid 80s on the Writer's RT. I don't think he was quite this far out there back then. This essay made me mad, and I think it is a total distortion of what is really going on right now. I don't see us still fighting this war in 10 years. The regimes we are up against are far too unstable. Anything we do can only bring improvement. As far as the effects on our liberties of this war, I believe he is grossly exaggerating them. GWB is a Texan through and through and he isn't the enemy of the Bill of Rights.
To: redrock
The fact that L. Neil Smith, and anyone else in America, is completely free to write and post thoughts like this without fear puts to lie most of what he wrote.
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posted on
11/22/2001 8:57:38 PM PST
by
yazd
To: yazd
So far...he ,or anyone, is free to write whatever they want.
But with the 'New' laws.....how long before someone in government decides that this type of writing is 'terrorist'????
redrock
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posted on
11/22/2001 9:00:11 PM PST
by
redrock
To: yazd
RIGHT!
To: redrock
If we clean up the electoral system so that illegal aliens are not voting and other means of fraud are limited then when the government abuses its power we will change it through the ballot box.
To: Lurker
Agreed. If there ever was a "Real America", it's long gone. I'm rabidly patriotic and longing to see the destruction of our enemies only because the last best hope for Humanity is the continuation of this Republic.
We are the only only nation on Earth that has a chance of "waking up".
To: redrock
Democrats must come to see that the reason the 2000 election map looked the way it did is because Americans are tired of having their liberty -- to speak freely, to obtain, own, and carry the means of self-defense, to keep every penny they earn, to drive the size and kind of car they want -- taken away bit by bit. They can read the Bill of Rights themselves. They understand what the Founding Fathers meant by it. They're less and less willing to be told otherwise by thugs in jackboots or lawyers wearing suits that cost more than the cars they love.
Ok, which election is he talking about and why didn't anybody tell me? The one I voted in resulted in a pretty even split between dems and repubs, with statistical noise for the Libertarians. How are the author's conclusions supported by this pattern?
To: redrock
Geez . . . I just hate it when someone makes so much sense that all I can say is DUHHHHHH !!! Supurb article, redrock . . . here's a BIG PING in appreciation !!!
To: Economist_MA
Remember the red and blue areas??
I travel a LOT in the rural areas of this country....and I talk to a lot of citizens who feel just the way that paragraph sounded.
redrock
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posted on
11/22/2001 9:11:35 PM PST
by
redrock
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