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Chicago Schools Create Prayer Room for Muslims
Newsmax.com ^ | Thursday November 29, 2001

Posted on 11/29/2001 1:53:21 PM PST by softengine

Chicago's notoriously wretched but money-squandering government schools have set aside a prayer room to accommodate Muslims.

Though the issue has created a big stink in New York City, Chicago Muslims hailed the decision.

"My religion is a really big part of my life, and it's really good I can practice it, even at school,'' 14-year-old freshman Saba Quadri says in today's Sun-Times.

Kareem Irfan, chairman of Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago, said: "I know some Christian families would prefer their children to take some time out and do Bible study during lunch time. Some Hindu groups have groups that study religion or read prayers. This accommodation will make it easier for students to turn to their own forms of prayer without affecting their fellow students.''

The school system caters to Muslims in other ways. Because Muslim women are not allowed to bare their arms to men, schools separate the sexes for physical education freshman year so female Muslim students can swim.


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Just Wonderful!

Christians are not allowed to even bow their heads in silent prayer over their lunches without fear of expulsion, but EVERY other religion is not only allowed to practice on school grounds, but is (at taxpayer expense) provided special places on school grounds to do so.

Its this kind of cr@p that get's my blood boiling.

1 posted on 11/29/2001 1:53:21 PM PST by softengine
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To: softengine
Unbelievable.
2 posted on 11/29/2001 2:00:52 PM PST by kassie
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To: softengine
Anything to take attention away from the fact that the Chicago School District is bankrupt, corrupt, inefficient and incompetent. Just don't expect Hizzoner King Richard II to do anything about it--he's too busy organizing the latest sweetheart construction deal/drafting anti-gun legislation.

[sigh] Just another day in the People's Republic of Chicago.

3 posted on 11/29/2001 2:03:55 PM PST by Own Drummer
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To: softengine
Good bye, America.
4 posted on 11/29/2001 2:06:43 PM PST by BenF
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To: softengine
This makes me both sad and angry. How can we be showing such deference to a religion that is filled with hatred and is, in fact, the root cause of the terrorist attack on 9/11? Christianity has always taught love and respect for our fellow man, yet it's banned from our schools. I just can't see how this can happen! (But I know it does!)
5 posted on 11/29/2001 2:10:52 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: golitely
I just can't see how this can happen! (But I know it does!)

It's called PC. I wonder if it will take a nuclear attack on the US, to dislodge PC? Even then, I am not sure we can ever get rid of PC. It is just too deeply ingrained in our society.

6 posted on 11/29/2001 2:14:56 PM PST by Mark17
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To: softengine
Do the Chick-a-go schools provide rooms for Christian students and for Jewish students???
7 posted on 11/29/2001 2:16:16 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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To: softengine
And anyone who points out the blantant favoritism given to Non-Christians by public institutions will be called a bigot/racist.
8 posted on 11/29/2001 2:21:41 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: All
The Christian and Jewish parents in Chicago should be asking for equal treatment. This could free religious groups to push prayer in schools.
9 posted on 11/29/2001 2:29:12 PM PST by meenie
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To: softengine
The biggest problem I have with this is that such a policy will hamper the assimilation of Muslim children into mainstream American society. One of the few good things public schools do is accelerate the assimilation of children who are either immigrants themselves or children of immigrants. I have not been too concerned about the large number of Middle Eastern adults who have come to America because I expect that in another generation or two they will assimilate, as have the Chinese, Eastern Europeans, Irish, Cubans, etc. However, if we allow them to maintain their "separateness" especially in our public schools, there will be hell to pay down the road - they will eventually demand that all of our laws be rewritten to allow them five breaks a day in the workplace for prayer, prohibit employers from requiring uniforms, etc. etc. ad nauseam. This will fundamentally change American society in very bad ways.

Throughout our history, Americans have welcomed waves of immigrants. It has not always been easy or free of problems and even violence, but invariably in a generation or two they are just Americans like the rest of us. I truly fear what will happen if we throw away this great tradition and strength of our nation just to be "politically correct" and "culturally sensitive" to Arab Muslims! This has little to do with terrorism or Sept. 11, but it has everything to do with the survival of America as we know it!!!

10 posted on 11/29/2001 2:29:27 PM PST by Dems_R_Losers
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To: softengine
Where do you live that a student bowing their head in silent prayer would get expelled?
11 posted on 11/29/2001 2:31:06 PM PST by stuartcr
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To: softengine
I wish they would get their religion straight. I thought it was naturalism (that's what they teach in science class). Now, I see that it's pluralism (all religions are equal -- except Christianity). By the way, this is the religion Bush endorses. What a confusing country we live in.
12 posted on 11/29/2001 2:32:31 PM PST by exmarine
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To: softengine
Who do we freep? Names from Chicago folks please...when I went through O Hare Sunday the guy announcing and the woman taking tickets were Arab....made me REAL comfortable!
13 posted on 11/29/2001 2:33:45 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: softengine
This just goes to show the bigotry of liberals. They hate everything that is American. They cater to every minority group around. The aim is to divide America into a lot of groups with opposing demands. They hate American culture.

It's the old divide and conquer thing. It is also showing the sympathy that liberals have for terrorism.

14 posted on 11/29/2001 2:34:14 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: softengine
Where is the A C L U ??
15 posted on 11/29/2001 2:35:08 PM PST by caisson71
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To: softengine
Chicago's notoriously wretched but money-squandering government schools have set aside a prayer room to accommodate Muslims

That's just blatant discrimination. Students of other faiths should utilize the "prayer room" and if confronted or if diciplined, they should initiate a killer lawsuit.

16 posted on 11/29/2001 2:38:26 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER
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To: softengine
Just another sign of the times my friend!
My local NBC affiliate now has a splash screen or whatever it's called, saying "From all of us at KNBC Happy Ramadan" This shown before this year.
I guarantee you, you won't be seeing a Merry Christmas, just the usual Happy Holidays.
17 posted on 11/29/2001 3:01:11 PM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
While reminds me of a headline I saw a few days ago. It went something like: "Ford to hold sensitivity training about Muslims for assembly line works".

Alas, I did not read get a chance to read the article but I remember thinking, "Sensitivity training? What comes next? Self-confession and re-education classes a la China's 'Cultural Revolution'?"

Good gravy, can you imagin something like this taking place in a major US industry a few months after Pearl Harbor in reguard to the Japanese?

18 posted on 11/29/2001 3:10:55 PM PST by yankeedame
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To: softengine
Time for Christian/Jewish students and their families in Chi-Town to start complaining to their community leaders-in a big way.
19 posted on 11/29/2001 3:23:40 PM PST by gimme1ibertee
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To: Dems_R_Losers
"However, if we allow them to maintain their "separateness" especially in our public schools, there will be hell to pay down the road - they will eventually demand that all of our laws be rewritten to allow them five breaks a day in the workplace for prayer, prohibit employers from requiring uniforms, etc. etc. ad nauseam. This will fundamentally change American society in very bad ways."


"A warning from Denmark"

20 posted on 11/29/2001 3:25:15 PM PST by EdReform
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To: yankeedame
What comes next?

Bomb throwing for beginners

21 posted on 11/29/2001 3:38:32 PM PST by Dataman
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To: StayoutdaBushesWay
Not only is this discriminatory, but it seems to miss the essence of Ramadan. Ramadan is NOT the Muslim Christmas. It is the Muslim Lent. When you have every heard a TV Station wish anyone "Happy Lent"? It would be stupid---Lent is a time of penance, not frivolity.

The only significance the media gives to Lent is in connection with Fat Tuesday---the day before you are supposed to fast for 40 days.

22 posted on 11/29/2001 3:38:55 PM PST by 07055
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To: 07055
07055 said it well. I lived in a Moslem country for a year, and Ramadan is certainly not a "happy" time. You fast between sun-up and sun-down; then you can eat. It is supposed to be a time of solemnity. The media are pathetic.
23 posted on 11/29/2001 6:11:36 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: softengine
Students are indeed allowed to bow their heads over their lunch. Also over their algebra exam. They can also pray as they're taking a sip of water from the water fountain, and as they're showering after phys. ed.

This is not a double standard. Muslims have very specific rituals with their prayers (like praying at certain times and bowing east). Their prayers could be disruptive to others.

Christians have no such requirements and therefore need no special accomodations.

24 posted on 11/30/2001 6:08:48 AM PST by MissMillie
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To: SAMWolf
Nope. Just wrong. You're not a bigot, you're not a racist. You're just wrong.

You are misinformed about the the rulings regarding school prayer. The Supreme Court has never said that students can't pray in school. What they said is that the school administration and faculty cannot organize prayers at school.

Schools can and do allow students to organize prayer groups and bible studies on school property. The students have to take the initiative, the school supplies the space.

This room for muslim prayers is no different.

25 posted on 11/30/2001 6:11:51 AM PST by MissMillie
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To: MissMillie
Another appeasment of the moon godlet allah.
26 posted on 11/30/2001 6:17:25 AM PST by hsszionist
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To: softengine
The spirit of the anti-Christ continues to grow.
27 posted on 11/30/2001 6:22:45 AM PST by JeepInMazar
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To: stuartcr
There was a school district in Birmingham, AL, about 2 years ago that forbade any evidence of praying at school, including bowing the head. There were personnel assigned to insure compliance with this. Kids in the local school district (Louisville, KY) say they have to be careful not to look like they're praying or they get flack from the thought police, er um public teachers. I think the recommendation to have folks of all faiths flood these prayer rooms is wonderful. So much for "separation of church and state".
28 posted on 11/30/2001 6:30:24 AM PST by JusPasenThru
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To: softengine
A separate room in which to privately practice their religion during the school day ? Hey, that's great. If my kids were in that school system, I'd be suing to have a chapel created at their school so they could do the same.
29 posted on 11/30/2001 6:36:07 AM PST by cschroe
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To: hsszionist
Yes, and the good news is that there is nothing to stop you from attempting to appease your god too. Works for everyone.
30 posted on 11/30/2001 2:47:22 PM PST by MissMillie
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To: JusPasenThru
I'd like more information on that please... where did you get your info? I'd like to read up on it.
31 posted on 11/30/2001 2:48:26 PM PST by MissMillie
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To: MissMillie
Before you all get carried away, you should read the article very carefully.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-pray29.html

32 posted on 11/30/2001 3:11:10 PM PST by sync cord
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To: yankeedame
While reminds me of a headline I saw a few days ago. It went something like: "Ford to hold sensitivity training about Muslims for assembly line works".

I read that article in the New York Times the other day. I promptly picked up the phone and told Ford I was not interested in religious tolerance of Muslims and told them to look at the Times story. I also told them I would not be buying another Ford vechicle, ever! To top if off, I believe the women who was taking the phone call was an Arab - her accent almost assured me of it. She was pleasant enough and told me she would pass my comments on. It is about time for a new car, but I will not be buying another Ford.

33 posted on 11/30/2001 3:13:17 PM PST by healey22
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To: MissMillie
No, appeasement necessary, just obedience.
34 posted on 11/30/2001 4:19:14 PM PST by hsszionist
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To: 07055
Not only is this discriminatory, but it seems to miss the essence of Ramadan. Ramadan is NOT the Muslim Christmas. It is the Muslim Lent. When you have every heard a TV Station wish anyone "Happy Lent"? It would be stupid---Lent is a time of penance, not frivolity. The only significance the media gives to Lent is in connection with Fat Tuesday---the day before you are supposed to fast for 40 days.

Hillary Clinton, of course, didn't know this about Ramadan. Remember during the impeachment when she talked about the holiday season, and referred to Christmas, Hanukhah, and Ramadan? She thought that Ramadan was the equivalent to Christmas! If Bush had done that, we'd never hear the end of it.

35 posted on 12/03/2001 2:05:32 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: softengine
I hope someone will be keeping an eye on the people who go into the public school prayer rooms and on the objects those people leave behind. We know young Muslims are willing to risk their own lives in order to kill their enemy.
36 posted on 10/12/2002 7:20:48 AM PDT by syriacus
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To: softengine
It comes down to the fact that Western Christians have nothing left inside, zero, zip, nada! Tolerance, equality, "the big tent", dialogue, compassion, love, all being symptoms of the underlying sickness.
37 posted on 10/12/2002 7:26:03 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: JusPasenThru
These Louisville kids could make a big stink over this.
38 posted on 10/12/2002 7:30:51 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: softengine
Maybe the Chicago public school system has a large Muslim population. Maybe school officials know that "prayer" is very important in Muslim life. Maybe they are afraid that if they do not provide prayer rooms, Muslim children will be educated elsewhere. Maybe it all comes down to $$$$$.
39 posted on 10/12/2002 7:34:03 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: softengine
Leave it to Chicago. You'd think it was a city in California or something.
40 posted on 10/12/2002 7:35:21 AM PDT by OfByForThePeople
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I agree. We are incapable of critical evaluation of foreign cultures, but constantly attacking all things western, with the attacks overwhelmingly from those that would not be tolerated or permitted to even live by the foreign cultures. we are afraid to critique honestly lest we offend. Under fear of repression and punishment by our own government
41 posted on 10/12/2002 7:43:22 AM PDT by Evil Inc
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To: softengine
Why aren't there lawsuits being filed right and left by Christian parents for discrimination? Sorry, but this is too easy. IMO, Christians have been beaten down and have given up the fight for what is right. Other than FReeRepublic, there is a void of conservative activists, and it will be our destruction. Very sad...
42 posted on 10/12/2002 7:44:17 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Western Christians have nothing left inside

Why do you say this?
43 posted on 10/12/2002 7:48:10 AM PDT by johnb838
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To: softengine
I know some Christian families would prefer their children to take some time out and do Bible study

Bible study???? This guy must be new here or he'd know the politically correct would never allow that.

44 posted on 10/12/2002 7:48:51 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: cschroe
I'd be suing to have a chapel created at their school so they could do the same.

Then they'd come out and tell you we need separation of Church and State. No Christian chapels allowed.

45 posted on 10/12/2002 7:50:41 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: softengine
DEPORT ALL MUSLIMS NOW!!!
46 posted on 10/12/2002 7:50:42 AM PDT by texson66
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To: softengine
Where's the ACLU? Why aren't they suing the crap out of the school system for this government mandated religous indoctrination? Where's the separation of church and state?
47 posted on 10/12/2002 7:53:01 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: softengine
Christians are not allowed to even bow their heads in silent prayer over their lunches without fear of expulsion, but EVERY other religion is not only allowed to practice on school grounds, but is (at taxpayer expense) provided special places on school grounds to do so.

Public schools in my area prohibit any mention of CHRISTMAS, as it is considered derogatory and intolerant towards "other" religions. Instead, they celebrate Kwanza and the "holidays"...

48 posted on 10/12/2002 7:58:19 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: johnb838
You have eyes and ears look and listen. See and hear what is happening in your own country. The article prompting my comments illustrates my very point. The Christian religion is virtually forbidden in the public schools yet this third world garbage cult is coddled. A healthy people would react quite differently, indeed they would not even have the problem, as the third worlders would not even try.
49 posted on 10/12/2002 7:59:01 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: softengine
Where the ACFU when you need them....{asleep}
50 posted on 10/12/2002 8:59:31 AM PDT by hosepipe
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