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Jim Marrs wrote this piece two days after the 9-11 attack. Marrs is author of the definitive compendium of the evidence of a conspiracy in the JFK assassination.

Since this was written, we have learned that at least four repected foreign intelligence services told the CIA that the attack was coming, that it involved the highjacking of airliners, that Al Qaida was behind it, and that the operation was run by two bin Laden associates, Amad Mugniyeh and Ayman Al-Hawaziri. Although the foreign agencies couldn't tell the CIA what the target was, the CIA had already acquired (during the arrest of Ramsi Yousef and an associate) Al-Qaida's plan for the attack of the WTC towers by hijacked airliners.

The question becomes one of why didn't the CIA or FBI start bringing in the appropriate people for questioning? Why weren't potential Al-Qaida operatives detained?

One has to believe that either the CIA is so incompetent that the agency deserves to be disassembled, or the government is complicit in what happened.

1 posted on 12/05/2001 12:00:36 PM PST by Magician
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TIN-FOIL ALERT!!
2 posted on 12/05/2001 12:05:45 PM PST by bassmaner
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"How nothing could have been picked up [by U.S. intelligence agencies regarding the coming attack] is beyond me."

Until you remember who was President for the past eight years.

3 posted on 12/05/2001 12:09:03 PM PST by Maceman
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. . . , or the government is complicit in what happened.

And you will never get some folks to even entertain the idea that we are watching a stage(d) play.
No doubt about it, it was just Bin Laden and that's that. No other boogeymen.

I'd rather be a KOOK, thank you very much. Oh wait a minute . . . I am.

Uh, intermission is over. Time for the second half of the play.

Regards.

4 posted on 12/05/2001 12:09:47 PM PST by mancini
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Perhaps one should check the polls to see that those plumenting numbers are about 80% + %??? Also, we learned today through Vanity Fair that Clinton could have had all the information on Bin Landen he wanted, but REFUSED IT!! Where does the blame lie, with the Democrat President that put the nation to shame.
5 posted on 12/05/2001 12:10:33 PM PST by maeng
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Ah, yes, Jim Marrs...so, does he think the aliens did it?
6 posted on 12/05/2001 12:10:51 PM PST by Poohbah
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For true students of history, it is now nearly beyond dispute that certain high-ranking officials in Washington, D. C. knew in advance of the Japanese intention to attack the U.S. fleet in Hawaii, yet did nothing to prevent it.

This is utter bullshit. First, FDR did indeed want American involved in WWII, but not against the Japanese. FDR didn't care about what was going in Asia at the time. He wanted to attack Hitler. Second, though the U.S. did suspect that an attack by Imperial Japan was imminent, U.S. officials believed the attack would be aimed at the U.S.-owned Philipines, not Hawaii.

The author offers no evidence to support his viewpoint.

8 posted on 12/05/2001 12:12:22 PM PST by Heisenburger
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Another member of the Blame America First crowd.
10 posted on 12/05/2001 12:13:07 PM PST by RetiredArmy
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WHO'S TRULY BEHIND THE ATTACK ON AMERICA

Well, are you going to tell us? Certainly would save a lot of time, don't you think? Until the time you can post some REAL information to back up this stupid drivel, and only then, could you please refrain from cluttering the internet landscape with garbage?

12 posted on 12/05/2001 12:14:55 PM PST by Mr. Bird
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nearly beyond dispute

Cute.  See "almost pregnant" in
Spin for Dummies.

One has to believe that either the CIA is so incompetent
that the agency deserves to be disassembled,

Works for me.

the government is
complicit in what happened.

A needlessly tin-hat leap of lunacy.

14 posted on 12/05/2001 12:17:16 PM PST by gcruse
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Here we go - "tin foil alert" , "kook", "idiot" - the only one of the pinheads favorite derogatories you havent elicited within the first 10 posts is "anti-Semite" .. To parapharse an old proverb, "You can lead a donkey to water, but ........."
16 posted on 12/05/2001 12:20:15 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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When the emotions of the moment run hot, we must remain cool and thoughtful so that we can find who is truly behind this attack on America.

I think it was Jim Marrs. Or maybe Magician.

19 posted on 12/05/2001 12:21:52 PM PST by dead
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PEOPLE ARE GETTING SMARTER by Barry Chamish

After eight lectures in New York, New Jersey and Toronto, I conclude that people are getting smarter. They demanded to know less about Rabin and more about New World Order this tour around.

Toronto comments:

* "Israeli biological and nuclear scientists are being knocked off one by one and this covert war is going unnoticed. A plane carrying scientists to Russia's biological warfare center at Novosibirsk was blown up over the Black Sea and no one questions that the Ukrainian missile that supposedly did the job was a hundred miles out of range. Then a Swissair Corsair crashes killing the head of Ichilov Hospital's Hematology department, as well as directors of the Hebrew University School Of Medicine and the Tel Aviv Public Health Department and not a word of suspicion is raised. After that, one of the country's most prominent nuclear scientists, Baruch Zinger is assassinated and still, no one is putting the pieces together. Your front line against nuclear and biological attacks is being picked off in a covert murder campaign and your government is taking no security precautions to stop the intellectual slaughter. Or if it is, your public is totally unaware of the daily danger to its most educated citizens."

* "Three suicide and car bombers make it to downtown Jerusalem and your media isn't questioning the security establishment? Think about this "breakdown." Each bombing requires about thirty people for surveillance, engineering, hideouts and more. Over a hundred backup people were required to make the operation work and the GSS (Shabak) had no intelligence beforehand? I don't buy it. It's a fair bet that you have traitors in the GSS withholding information from the army. You can count on the fact that there are Israeli plants who believe in this New World Order and are abetting the bloodshed."

* "I've done a little research into Shimon Peres' childhood and there's one item which has been overlooked that may explain everything. It turns out his father went to Palestine and left his wife back in Poland. He reportedly shacked up with an Arab woman and fathered children with her. That may not be the first time he had children with a gentile woman. In Poland during the 20s, Jewish children were sent to their own schools. Peres received his elementary school education at a Jesuit school."

* (From the same source. He phones Israel and is faxed an article from Maariv about the ownership of the PLO's public phone company Paltel. It is 40% owned by the Bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia and 40% by Arafat himself. BUT 2.46% of shares are owned by Shimon Peres). "Have a look at this Peres/Bin Laden business connection," he says.

New York:

I make a pilgrimage to Ground Zero. I've seen pictures of wartime Berlin and Hiroshima, but the devastation is more complete here. I view the wreckage from the fifth floor office of an acquaintance's office, then stare transfixed at the destruction of the remaining evidence from street level for an hour. When I return to my hotel, my face is beet red and blistered. There was something highly caustic, perhaps toxic, in the air.

* "They're hiding the real death figures. They've got it down to only 3200 now. Now I'll tell you why that can't be. Only one company released its fatality figures, Cantor Fitzgerald. They lost 700 employees working on four floors. Even accounting for their being on top floors, you take 220 storeys and do the math, you get a figure of 42,000. And that's just employees, not visitors. The New York Times prints whatever deceased they can collect through the obituaries and that's the only source of deaths available. Where is the official fatality list? It's been two months and no list of the dead has been published. After any other tragedy, the list is made public immediately. Why hasn't a list been compiled and released of the World Trade Center dead already?"

* "I knew the story of the plane hijackings was baloney when the Times published the, supposedly, only black box transcripts which survived. Four planes, and only one black box survived. Did you read the cockpit recording? It was straight out of Dragnet; 'Don't do anything stupid,' says the terrorist.

"But if you think that was contrived, look at the stupid story they told us about Flight 93. This was the plan that went wrong. To get the other three planes to crash into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, you had to override their autopilots. They were set from Logan and Newark to Los Angeles, and had to be switched off and the plane flown manually, or reset to the coordinates of their targets. And all the while this was happening, not one pilot activated the Mayday signal.

"However, something went wrong with Flight 93, and the plane kept flying west. There was a snafu and the autopilot wasn't overrided. So it was shot down 80 miles from Pittsburgh. It absolutely had to have been because parts of the tail were found eight miles from the nose. A plane can't crash land and thrust its tail eight miles backwards. Only a midair explosion can do that.

"So look at the scenario of heroism they paint to cover up the missile attack on the plane. They've got three terrorists with little box cutters gathering together a half dozen of the toughest passengers you'd find on any plane. One is a wrestler, the other a rugby player, the rest six feet tall and 190 pounds minimum. You've got the front line of the Green Bay Packers all together and no one rushes the little terrorists with their pint sized blades.

"Next, the terrorists decide to let the passengers call home on their cellphones. Sure, that makes sense. You're supposedly on the way to Washington, ninety minutes flying time away, to bomb the Capitol building, and you alert the entire defense establishment that you're coming. That's the way to make your mission a success alright.

"And in the final act of the drama, Rambo is heard on one phone telling the troops, 'Let's roll, boys.' And to make sure the public buys this ridiculous story, they roll out the pregnant wife and stick her on the same flight a few days later.

"Nothing about the scenario rings true because it didn't happen. If you want to get to the truth about what happened on the three planes which did hit their targets, start examining the one that missed."

Good advice from one of the many people who have wised up, we hope, in time.

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22 posted on 12/05/2001 12:24:03 PM PST by mancini
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"the government is complicit in what happened"

Pst! The earth is flat!

44 posted on 12/05/2001 12:40:43 PM PST by verity
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Bert is our man, er,..puppet.
49 posted on 12/05/2001 12:42:46 PM PST by TADSLOS
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55 posted on 12/05/2001 12:46:22 PM PST by 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember
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"To appreciate nonsense requires a serious interest in life"---. Gelett Burgess

An Alphabet of Famous Goops

57 posted on 12/05/2001 12:46:50 PM PST by Orual
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WHO'S TRULY BEHIND THE ATTACK ON AMERICA

Why the hate-filled,socialist-spewing, elitist, DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!

58 posted on 12/05/2001 12:47:28 PM PST by airborne
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It was reported many times, that the reason the jets weren't immediately in the vicinity of NY or DC was because they were based too far away. They did scramble immediately, but could not get there in time.
Story is that Clinton had closed the bases that were close enough to have been instrumental in stopping the planes from hitting their targets.

The last thing I question is, he said Bush was losing popularity, that is not true. Makes me wonder what else he might be mistaken about in this article.

75 posted on 12/05/2001 12:57:53 PM PST by ladyinred
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If there was a conspiracy based on governmental incompetence it might be believable. Unfortunately most conspiracy theories are based on complicated events staged at precise times. Its clear that it is far beyond the capability of the typical government agency.
78 posted on 12/05/2001 1:00:41 PM PST by Outrance
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'But one thing appears quite clear, the tragic events of 9-11 play right into the hands of persons with an agenda aimed at eroding American liberties and sovereignty.'

Well, there you go. And if Osama and the Afghans didn't get anything out of this, who did? Maybe all those agencies that've been hammering for an end to American liberties and sovereignty for so long?

Seems a lot of American's noses have grown so big they can't see past their own lies with their myopic little eyeballs to read the writing on the wall.

105 posted on 12/05/2001 1:45:31 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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