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VANITY - Interesting article for Kennedy conspiracy buffs
A site I found while surfing ^ | N/A | Brian Downing Quig

Posted on 12/11/2001 2:43:05 PM PST by Bill Rice

....At the time Col. Prouty retired from the U.S. Air Force, in 1964, he was the liaison between the Secretary of Defence and the CIA Director, Allen Dulles. Prouty was in a unique position to perceive what was going on in the CIA and what pressures were on President Kennedy. On frequent occasions, Prouty would work out of the home of Secretary of State John Foster Dulles with the Dulles brothers on fast breaking world affairs. Allen Dulles was the CIA Director that John Kennedy fired after the Bay of Pigs fiasco who sat on the WARREN COMMISSION. All knowledgeable researchers place the Dulles brothers within the circle of the conspirators.

If we only knew then, what we do now, it would have been easy to identify the other conspirators. Lyndon Johnson lived across the street from J. Edger Hoover for 22 years in Washington D.C. Johnson was associated with Jack Ruby in Dallas. Hoover attended the meeting at the Clint Murcheson ranch, along with Richard Nixon and high ranking military, where the last minute details of the assassination were worked out. Richard Nixon first told the FBI he did not remember where he was when JFK was murdered. Then he said he was in Dallas but flew out an hour before the shooting. He lied. Executives at the PEPSICO meeting attended by Nixon related that not only was Nixon there when the shooting happened but Nixon was the only person who wanted to go on working after the shocking news of the President's death.

At the street level below these conspirators we find the CIA Bay of Pigs operatives Frank Sturgus, Jack Youngblood and E. Howard Hunt being photographed in the famous "tramp photos". These three suspects were arrested in a boxcar which was parked behind the grassy knoll picket fence over which the fatal shot was fired. These 3 assassins were released after 15 minutes by the FBI without being finger printed, photographed or identified and were last seen leaving Dallas in a police squad car. As a litmus test, any documentary which omits these photos is probably a fraud. These photos have never been shown by the mass media to the American public.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: jfk; jfkdallaslho
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To: tscislaw
Check out post # 34. He's got a point about the shirt.
101 posted on 12/12/2001 6:03:08 PM PST by Bill Rice
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To: archy
There is no listing for a 30-30 180 grain Silver tip at 2850 feet per second like you tried to imply. There also is no listing in any reloading manual for what you tried to claim.
102 posted on 12/12/2001 6:19:34 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: top of the world ma
Groden has produced a wealth of information wrt his collection of photographs. However, we cannot rely on his 'expertise' as far as his interpretation of photographs. He has no formal education in photography.

Does that mean you agree that OJ really did wear those Bruno Maglis? :)

103 posted on 12/12/2001 6:39:21 PM PST by mlo
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To: Bill Rice
Ray and Mary LaFontaine, working for the tabloid TV program "A Current Affair," set out to find Harold Doyle, whose address was listed on the arrest record as Red Jacket, West Virginia. The trail led from West Virginia to Amarillo, Texas, where the LaFontaines found one of Doyle's former neighbors who remembered him talking about his arrest in Dallas. Doyle was finally located in Klamath Falls, Oregon. He told his story on camera (see photo, below right), and was also questioned by the FBI.

The FBI and private researchers sought the other two tramps. Gedney was located in Melbourne, Florida, serving as a municipal officer, a respected member of the community who had not spoken about former life as a vagabond until interviewed by researcher Billy Cox, and by the FBI. Both Doyle and Gedney told the same story of spending the night before the assassination at a rescue mission. According to Oliver Revell of the Dallas FBI office:

Both commented that they had gotten fresh clothes, showered, shaved and had a meal. They headed back to the railroad yard when they heard all the commotion and sirens and everything, and they asked what happened. They were told the president had been shot.
See The Washington Post, March 4, 1992, and Dateline Dallas, Winter, 1993.
Abrams, the oldest of the tramps, was deceased. But researcher Kenneth Formet interviewed his sister, with whom he had lived the last 15 years of his life. She remembered his vagabond days, saying "he was always on the go hopping trains and drinking wine." When shown a picture of the Dealey Plaza tramps she responded "Yep, that's my Bill!" (Dateline Dallas, Winter, 1993)

Thus one of the greatest of assassination mysteries sprang from one of the most mundane Dealey Plaza realities. Three hobos swept up in the dragnet produced by the assassination were arrested and released. Suspicious of authority and fearful of being blamed, they remained quiet about their identities until the surviving two were tracked down almost 30 years later. Never objectively "mysterious" they only seemed that way because the absence of information left room for wild speculation. Thus the tramps are a metaphor for all the broader "mysteries" of the JFK murder case.

In case you missed it the second time. "Both commented that they had gotten fresh clothes, showered, shaved and had a meal." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

104 posted on 12/12/2001 7:35:33 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: mlo
You know one of the sadists things about that whole civil trial to me was that it was David Lifton who gave up all the damaging information about Robert Groden to Daniel Petrocelli. They are both conspiracy theorists and Lifton stabbed Groden in the back. Petrocelli would have found out all he needed to know about Groden, regardless. The point being the brutality that exists among the researchers----even on the same side. So sad, imo, and needless....

But, I digress. Yes, I do believe those "ugly-ass shoes" were Bruno Maglis. Admittedly, though, I have put money in Groden's pocket buying his video tapes and books. :-)

105 posted on 12/12/2001 8:59:01 PM PST by top of the world ma
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To: mlo; archy
Mlo, My son was interested in Tesla and he found himself on a list that sent every nutcase catalog to our house. The latest catalog is called Adventures Unlimited. It has a list of books featuring every crackpot theory you can imagine:
The Giza Death Star
Crop Circles, Gods and Their Secrets
The Complete Book of Alien Abductions
What Happened on the Moon
Chemtrail:The Video
Lost Continents & The Hollow Earth
Atlantis in Wisconsin

AND

Barry And The Boys

106 posted on 12/14/2001 2:02:03 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Bill Rice

VERY interesting. I just finished reading the pamphlet. Thought provoking. Thank you.


107 posted on 12/16/2007 10:33:41 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

I saw ‘Prouty’ as the fifth word and quit reading.


108 posted on 12/16/2007 10:36:39 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Bill Rice

109 posted on 12/16/2007 10:40:22 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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