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Did Israeli Intelligence know about the September 11 attack beforehand?
Foxnews | December 11, 2001

Posted on 12/11/2001 6:24:35 PM PST by Heisenburger

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To: Edmund Burke
Is it true that Cantor stayed home from work that day while Fitzgerald showed up at the office as usual? Who tipped him off?

The bogeyman? LOL...

51 posted on 12/12/2001 4:52:32 AM PST by veronica
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To: Hildy
Re your # 29....THINK ABOUT IT. Why on Earth would Israel not tell us. Makes no sense.

It makes all the sense in the world. Since the new administration has taken office, th U.S. has taken a much more "middle of the road" approach between the Arabs and Israel. The event had wonderful shock appeal and created an atmosphere of anti-Islam throughout America....all much to Israel's gain!!!

The foregoing was the same scenario as the Pearl Harbor fiasco which Roosevelt allegedly contrived as a necessary shock to push immediate American support for the War.

Nonetheless, I don't believe this story...believing instead it was the continuing well demonstrated incompetence of the CIA and FBI which had been emasculated under Clinton.

52 posted on 12/12/2001 4:58:30 AM PST by rmvh
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To: Harvard Man
Hear the rumor? Nostradamus and other tall tales (about September 11)
53 posted on 12/12/2001 5:01:07 AM PST by veronica
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To: rmvh
Since the new administration has taken office, the U.S. has taken a much more "middle of the road" approach between the Arabs and Israel. The event had wonderful shock appeal and created an atmosphere of anti-Islam throughout America....all much to Israel's gain!!!

Untrue. Bush is actually much more pro-Israel than anyone thought he would be -- and getting more so every day.

After all - Clinton met many times with Arafat - Bush refuses to do so AT ALL. Bush is going after Hamas, Hizbollah etc. No more asking Israel for restraint, either.

55 posted on 12/12/2001 5:04:45 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
FOX NEWS ……Sixty Israelis arrested or detained ……snicker
57 posted on 12/12/2001 5:15:20 AM PST by MACD
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To: MACD
Every outlet - THOUSANDS of Arabs detained...snicker.
58 posted on 12/12/2001 5:24:21 AM PST by veronica
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To: MACD
FOX NEWS ……Sixty Israelis arrested or detained.

How come this has not been reported anywhere else I wonder? Does that number include the Israelis who have already been released and are back in Israel? Hmmmmm.

59 posted on 12/12/2001 5:27:20 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
THOUSANDS of Arabs detained

Six hundred actually, but for you that's fairly close ……. keep watching the FOX tape …… more good news coming ……

60 posted on 12/12/2001 5:33:40 AM PST by MACD
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To: XpandTheEkonomy; MACD
>>>>>Another was selling toys at malls nationwide. Foxnews called the toy operation a "front". Apparently the company closed all of its mall "kiosks" fast and put up an excuse on their website. I can't remember the address. Fox showed the site and quoted from it.

I think those folks have already been released and are back in Israel.

62 posted on 12/12/2001 5:37:03 AM PST by veronica
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To: MACD
Six hundred actually, but for you that's fairly close ……. keep watching the FOX tape …… more good news coming ……

More than that...but even 600 is a lot...don't you think?

And of course there is the Holy Land 'charity' thing...

63 posted on 12/12/2001 5:41:22 AM PST by veronica
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To: Heisenburger
"Blame Bush" has turned into "Blame the Israelis", I guess.
64 posted on 12/12/2001 5:47:33 AM PST by swampfox98
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To: MACD
Carl Cameron is reporting on this story now -- I saw the whole thing - this is the same 60 Israelis as before - many have already gone home to Israel.

It's really more about Israel tracking the same Arab groups in the US that the FBI is tracking. No US official would go on the record - Israel denies the whole thing.

Carl Cameron said the next report is about the US phone system. YAWN.

66 posted on 12/12/2001 5:53:31 AM PST by veronica
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To: Heisenburger
Hell the CIA may have known about it. You don't think they planned that war in just a few weeks do you?

Now I don't know if Sept. 11th specifically was known, but they knew it was a matter of time before their lack of action would lead to attack and they had this war planned out and ready to go.

As far as Israel goes, the Mossad is highly expert and it's very plausible that they knew as well. But who knows?

67 posted on 12/12/2001 5:54:53 AM PST by NC_Libertarian
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To: veronica
re your #55....Untrue. Bush is actually much more pro-Israel than anyone thought he would be -- and getting more so every day

Well..I can't argue with your statement since I don't klnow what "EVERYONE" thought he would be....and I have no base point to measure how far he has come from toward developing "MORE" Jewish empathy.

But it seems true that he is getting more Jewish support now than at election time since the vast majority of Jews voted against him back then, and particularly those who live in NYC having a Jewish population greater than in Israel.

And it seems quite reasonable that those Jews living in the city, and who voted enmass against him, have more reason now to support his war stance after the WTC disaster.

But the bottom line is that the Jews, like the Blacks, are in lockstep support for the socialistic State for reasons that escape logical explanation. The voting history in the US underscores this in factual detail.

70 posted on 12/12/2001 6:32:16 AM PST by rmvh
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To: rmvh
The last statistical analysis of American Jewry conducted in 2000 reports that over ONE MILLION American Jews are registered Republicans.

Bush won by under a thousand votes. Currently there are eight American Ambassadors appointed by Bush who are Jewish. Do you think he nominated Liberals?

71 posted on 12/12/2001 6:36:59 AM PST by veronica
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To: Edmund Burke
Is it true that Cantor stayed home from work that day while Fitzgerald showed up at the office as usual? Who tipped him off?

That sure was mean of Cantor not to tell his own brother who was killed in the WTC attack. Sybling rivalry I guess.

74 posted on 12/12/2001 6:54:08 AM PST by vrwc54
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To: Weisbrot
At this point, bin Laden may have been involved with 9/11- he's never publicly claimed responsibility, and the U.S. has not released the conclusive evidence to prove it. Same goes for Hussein. Deductive reasoning points to the involvement of bin Laden and Hussein, as well as the foreknowledge Fox is barely hinting at.

Bin Laden MAY have been involved? Better tell President Bush he only may have been involved.

Tell me something. With so many conspiracies racing through your brain, do you guys sleep with one eye open?

75 posted on 12/12/2001 6:56:34 AM PST by veronica
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To: rmvh
Could you be wrong?
76 posted on 12/12/2001 6:58:49 AM PST by Sabramerican
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To: The Documentary Lady
The ADL couldn't peddle that report around fast enough. They are foreign agents and should not be attacking Americans, period, let alone have their garbage sent to law enforcement. And they are a hate group.

Laura Bush Helps Launch 2nd Annual "Close The Book On Hate" Campaign Co-Sponsored by ADL

77 posted on 12/12/2001 6:59:20 AM PST by veronica
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To: The Documentary Lady
Bump for the new Pollard scandal ..…. and as we watch this unfold ..…. let's remember this - from our "friends" ……

Immediately upon Pollard's arrest, Israel apologized and explained that the operation was unauthorized. "It is Israel's policy to refrain from any intelligence activity related to the United States," an official government statement declared, "in view of the close and special relationship of friendship" between two countries. Prime Minister Shimon Peres stated: "Spying on the United States stands in total contradiction to our policy."
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US-Israel/pollard.html

79 posted on 12/12/2001 7:11:10 AM PST by MACD
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To: Weisbrot; veronica
That's why a Mossad asset is calling you names.

Congratulations, veronica. In the past you've been accused of working for the ADL, but I didn't know that you were a real, honest-to-goodness secret agent! Will you be writing a book soon about your adventures? LOL

80 posted on 12/12/2001 7:17:45 AM PST by vrwc54
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To: vrwc54
In the past you've been accused of working for the ADL, but I didn't know that you were a real, honest-to-goodness secret agent! Will you be writing a book soon about your adventures? LOL

No. I plan to make a movie about it. I am in the movie business so it will be very easy. Maybe I'll call Spielberg and we'll do it together.. Then we will both be filthy rich. I'll play myself....in a fabulous spy catsuit of course. (-;

81 posted on 12/12/2001 7:22:24 AM PST by veronica
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To: MACD
Bump for the new Pollard scandal ..…. and as we watch this unfold ..….

...'We'll keep our tinfoil hats on very tight'....LOL.

82 posted on 12/12/2001 7:25:43 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
Quick . …. your help is needed here
FBI Arrests JDL Chairman, Follower
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/589033/posts
85 posted on 12/12/2001 7:33:47 AM PST by MACD
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To: Hildy
THINK ABOUT IT. Why on Earth would Israel not tell us. Makes no sense.

When I thought about it I came up with: If the WTC goes down by terrorist hands then the USA will kick our enemies collective asses.

Just came to me, honest. Im not a Israel-basher.

87 posted on 12/12/2001 7:34:40 AM PST by Gasshog
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To: xm177e2
Israeli intelligence DID know something about the attacks--and they also told the CIA (according to the Jerusalem Post).

I'm also pretty sure that our intelligence services had data on the attacks before they happened. We have massive data collection systems, but from what I heard earlier this year (before 9/11) was that we just didn't have enough people to analyze it. Info was being tossed out or quickly looked over. It wouldn't surprise me if, 6 months from now, some guy analyzing something on a hard drive in the basement of the NSA says, "Holy $h!t! This would have been nice to know on September 10th."
88 posted on 12/12/2001 7:46:28 AM PST by July 4th
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To: esther2
"...but the story was also talking about the 60 Israelis that have been arrested. Apparently that's how the FBI figured this out."

Take this with a grain of salt (especially when reading this in articles sourced from Pakistan or Saudi news agencies).

I know that in one such instance, the "Israelis" that were arrested in the US were not Jewish, but "Palastinian" Israeli citizens. By not stating the religious or ethnic background of the Israeli, the Pakistanis and Saudis have been implying that it was actually Jews, not muslims, who carried out the terrorist activity. In some parts of the world (including among some tinfoil crowds in the US) the real culprits have not even been identified yet and "muslims" are being blamed unjustly.

Whether "Israelis" were involved in terrorist activity in the US or not has no relation to whether Israeli intelligence had foreknowledge about the Islamic attacks planned for September 11th. So far, I have not seen credible evidence of that either.

89 posted on 12/12/2001 7:46:58 AM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
I have not seen credible evidence

Quite so, they're doing a four part series it seems, and so far we've only be given a "teaser". Stay tuned …… :-)

90 posted on 12/12/2001 7:57:52 AM PST by MACD
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To: Heisenburger
Israeli intelligence warned US days before attacks
... Israeli intelligence warned US days before attacks. IAN BRUCE ISRAEL'S military intelligence service, Aman, issued an ... and the Pentagon on September 11. ...
92 posted on 12/12/2001 7:59:15 AM PST by It'salmosttolate
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To: Harvard Man
I'm really having trouble believing you're from Harvard. I thought you had to be extremely bright to get in there. Maybe you're a legacy?
93 posted on 12/12/2001 8:00:12 AM PST by walden
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To: MACD
Quite so, they're doing a four part series it seems, and so far we've only be given a "teaser". Stay tuned …… :-)

Ah yes...'tomorrow we'll get the 'real inside skinny' - LOL....

94 posted on 12/12/2001 8:05:48 AM PST by veronica
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To: It'salmosttolate
All intelligence sources should have been hip to the opportunity for something to occur when the leader of the Taliban Opposition was murdered in an attack on September 9th (he died to days have Sept 11). If they are striking out at the head of the opposition, the Taliban could have been worried about an attempt to unseat them (and it would be much harder to get at the opposition leader after a high profile terrorist act).
95 posted on 12/12/2001 8:07:23 AM PST by weegee
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To: MACD
FBI Arrests JDL Chairman, Follower...

I am surprised that the FBI had the time, what with all those 'Muslim charities' they are investigating for terrorist ties all over the country. 89 in Michigan alone!

96 posted on 12/12/2001 8:08:04 AM PST by veronica
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To: Dec31,1999
The only thing I can say is that I thought it odd that many more hadn't been sacrificed. The towers held at least 40K people when full on a busy business day

They had plenty of time to evacuate--in fact more of them should have been saved.

97 posted on 12/12/2001 8:36:21 AM PST by Ada Coddington
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To: Weisbrot
Re your *91 What gives you that impression...?

Its not an impression...It is a well documented fact. Jews voted overwhelmingly against Bush in the last election. Moreover, they continue support for the liberal left enmass....Schummer and Hillary are only the most recent examples.

Don't let facts get in your way.

98 posted on 12/12/2001 8:51:48 AM PST by rmvh
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To: Sabramerican
re your # 76 "Could you be wrong?" (That the Jews withheld informatio from the US about 9-11)

Of course. But I don't think in this particular case they Jews were guilty...Just my opinion.

99 posted on 12/12/2001 9:02:49 AM PST by rmvh
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To: rmvh
Did you read my link? I was referring to you writing that Jews always vote Democrat. In NY they are shifting Republican.
100 posted on 12/12/2001 9:09:14 AM PST by Sabramerican
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