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Guitar Aficionados Needed! (Vanity)
Nita Nupress

Posted on 12/17/2001 10:12:56 AM PST by Nita Nupress

FReeper help needed!

My son has taught himself to play the guitar and he's no longer content with just playing the acoustical guitar that he learned on.  He's now wanting an electric guitar and amp for Christmas, and to achieve this goal, he's telling all the family to forego any Christmas presents this year and is asking for the equivalent cash instead.   For those of you who remember what it was like to be young and wanting that first electric guitar, you'll understand that he's so desperate that he'll spend his Christmas money on trash if I don't take some action here and help him out.

I have several choices on how to help him find a good quality, yet affordable (i.e. "cheap") guitar, but I have no technical background or expertise on which to rely.  Thus the vanity to ask the Freeper experts.  ;-)   I need your opinions and any information that I can collect before making a decision.

My main problem:  Do I fix one of the guitars that I already have?  Or do I go help him pick out something retail?

Here are the facts I'm working with: 

I have two 'hand-me-down' electric guitars in storage that I used to play in the mid-'80's (When I started having kids, that was essentially the end of my guitar-playing days.)  Neither of the guitars are in working order -- one of them (a GRETSCH) was taken apart and needs to be put back together (more on that later).  The other (an Ibanez) just plain doesn't work; it may be something as simple as a loose wire. 

I'm thinking that it would be much cheaper and safer from a consumer standpoint to choose one of these guitars to get repaired than to go retail and be at the mercy of some salesman who takes advantage of the dumb blonde.   My main fear with going retail is that my son will get stuck with a guitar that's so low-quality that he'll get discouraged.  I have no idea how much money he'll be getting for Christmas, which is another problem.  My other fear is that I'll give him my vintage GRETSCH and find out later that it's worth thousands and he won't be nice to it. ;-)

Before I can make an informed decision on the repair job, I need information on the value and quality of the two guitars.  I'm in the middle of doing an internet search but it's getting discouraging because I'm not finding much.  Here's what I have:

This is the closest I can find to what it looks like: http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_6f5b41d7ead029265e1ab7c604/i-1.JPG

 

This is what it looks like:   http://www.tonezonenc.com/guitar_gallery/Mvc-593f.jpg

Here is a review:  http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/Ibanez/Silver-Series-01.html

I suspect the Gretsch is more than a 15-year-old beginner needs and may be too valuable to give him. (If he sticks with it, maybe later.)   But part with my Ibanez?  Yikes!

Now that I've typed all this, I'm thinking maybe I should just take him to a music store and let him pick out a cheap guitar to learn on and give him one of my older guitars later if I see that he sticks with it.  LOL!

Thoughts, anyone? 


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I have to leave for a few hours to make some phone calls, but I'll be back later.
1 posted on 12/17/2001 10:12:56 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: RightOnline; Senator Pardek
You two guys come to mind here. ;-)
2 posted on 12/17/2001 10:13:44 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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Nita, if he's to buy a new guitar, how much money will he have to spend?

MM

3 posted on 12/17/2001 10:16:37 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Nita Nupress
On the other hand nothing can kill a kid's interest faster than a crappy instrument. Unless you plan on going on the road again consider 'loaning' him one of your instruments.
4 posted on 12/17/2001 10:18:37 AM PST by parcel_of_rogues
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To: Maceman; axeslinger; kennewickman; hetfield1; Le-Roy; ST.LOUIE1; BluesDuke; Overseer; Aeronaut
I got your names from the Freeper Profiles. Hope you don't mind.
5 posted on 12/17/2001 10:18:44 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
I've got two words for you... Gibson Explorer!

At least thats my favorite.

6 posted on 12/17/2001 10:19:12 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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Nita, if he's to buy a new guitar, how much money will he have to spend?

I'm not sure what the relatives will give him, but I can't see him having more than around $300 or $400. Problem is, he has to find a cheap amp also with that amount of money.

I do have an older Fender amp that needs repairing, which is also an option, but I didn't even get into that. LOL!

7 posted on 12/17/2001 10:22:16 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
I would go with what you said in that last paragraph there. Just take him to a music store and buy an inexpensive guitar. Music stores always have sales after Christmas and you can bargain with the store owner to get an even better price. I paid something like $130 for my Cort Indonesian-made Strat clone this way and it plays great!

-Clay

8 posted on 12/17/2001 10:22:42 AM PST by clay92
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To: Nita Nupress
My recc: Mexi Strat and a Fender Frontman amp.

Lots of reviews of whatever you are looking for here: http://www.harmony-central.com/User_Reviews/

9 posted on 12/17/2001 10:23:04 AM PST by Eddeche
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To: Nita Nupress
Fender Squire Telecaster. It's a decent built guitar, cheap, easy to play & sounds wonderful. If you have a problem with a $200 guitar then go ahead & kick it up a notch & get the Standard Fender Telecaster, however many musicians I know use the Squire for road work since they are a decent guitar & if something happens to it, you're not out a lot of $$$. Just my opinion, but then I'm partial to the Telecaster sound.
10 posted on 12/17/2001 10:25:37 AM PST by Sword_of_Gideon
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To: Nita Nupress
There's no reason you can't let him play the Ibanez. If it's an electronic problem you can fix fairly cheaply...

Also, guitars are now DIRT CHEAP. You can get Fenders (from Mexico) for under $150. Just find one with a decent neck.

I'd suggest taking the Ib to a repair shop, having the elec problem fixed and getting a setup done on it. Polish it up, let him feast on that for awhile.

Oh Yeah, Jesus is Lord. ;-)

11 posted on 12/17/2001 10:26:40 AM PST by Jn316
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To: Eddeche
I agree...

You can usually find an overseas Strat, and a fairly decent amplifier, packaged together for a couple hundred dollars.

Also, I like the Yamaha Pacifica as a solid beginner electric for a very nice price.

12 posted on 12/17/2001 10:27:04 AM PST by OWK
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To: Nita Nupress
Check out Epiphone, the budget line of Gibson. I have a Epi Explorer I really like and a Epi Firebird that I looove! The Explorer went for $400 new and I picked up the Firebird for $200 used. Both guitars play really nice, and the neck on the Firebird is better than some guitars I've played costing 3-4x more. I play 'em thru a '62 Fender Princeton slaved to a 100 watt TubeWerks thru a 4x10 Kustom cabinet & they thunder! These guitars are a nice halfway point between the cheap junk out there and the high-end stuff. Plus they look cool!
13 posted on 12/17/2001 10:30:03 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan
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To: Nita Nupress
What kind of music does he play/listen to?
14 posted on 12/17/2001 10:30:11 AM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: OWK
OWK, I think the Indonesian and the China Strats are NOT a good buy. The MEX Strats are okay. I agree that the Yamaha Pacificas are decent. The Korean Epiphones are pretty good, and the Korean Schecters with set necks are very good for the price.
15 posted on 12/17/2001 10:31:39 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Nita Nupress
the gretch is for the big boys - get the fender with a decent 15 watt to 30 watt amp - preferably tube - maybe some effects pedals too - (distortion etc)- try this place - we have one on town and they have EVERYTHING Guitar Center
16 posted on 12/17/2001 10:32:31 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Senator Pardek
Rock. No heavy metal, thank heavens. ;-)
17 posted on 12/17/2001 10:32:55 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: parcel_of_rogues
On the other hand nothing can kill a kid's interest faster than a crappy instrument.

If that was ALWAYS the case then I would have never attained the skill-level I posess now.

I struggled through several cheap no-name Japanese guitars (none with less than 4 pick-ups *grin*) all sporting horrible large gauge, flatwound strings - before I finally attained a Gibson SG at 16 yrs old. But I believe it made a better guitarist out of me, paid my dues, so to speak.

Wish I still had those old battle-axes (sniff)

18 posted on 12/17/2001 10:33:29 AM PST by dr gene scott
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To: Nita Nupress
Now that I've typed all this, I'm thinking maybe I should just take him to a music store
and let him pick out a cheap guitar to learn on and give him one of my older guitars later if I see that he sticks with it. LOL!

You're right!

This is what my mom did with me. My guitar wasn't the "cheapest" but it certainly wasn't expensive.

Get him one to *learn* on and then upgrade accordingly.

All strings make music.

As for the 'sound' resonation....I wouldn't worry about it. Until he really learns 'how' to play he won't know the difference between good and /or bad sound. LOL

Hang onto your *old* guitars. : )

19 posted on 12/17/2001 10:33:37 AM PST by ST.LOUIE1
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To: Nita Nupress
Go to Sam Ash or Guitar Center, get him a Squire Strat & a crate amp. Very good construction & playability, and I've seen them as low as $130.
20 posted on 12/17/2001 10:33:53 AM PST by IowaHawk
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