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The Left blinds itself to the truth about bin Laden
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 12/18/2001 | Robert Harris

Posted on 12/17/2001 5:03:01 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: FastCoyote
Your concept of self-governance is nothing more than moral anarchy.

What do you think the Founders would do with this statement?

41 posted on 12/17/2001 6:45:43 PM PST by copycat
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To: Cicero
"The only possible explanation for their blind irrationality in this instance is that they hate Jews and Americans so much that they prefer to back a bunch of crazy religious fanatics and woman haters--the kind of people they would normally deplore."

More and more, I sense that leftist views -- socialism, feminism, multi-culturism, etc. -- are really nothing more than the facade for a deeper seated anti-Americanism.

As much as the left might love socialism, they hate America (and its success) even more.

I do not restrict this view as applying only to Eurotrash. The American left is animated by anti-Americanism, as well.

42 posted on 12/17/2001 6:49:39 PM PST by okie01
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To: marktwain
Interestingly, this is very similar to an excerpt I read here on FR, written by D. Horowitz. Where he expounded on why liberals lie. I wish I could find it again, or knew its source.
43 posted on 12/17/2001 7:07:51 PM PST by screed
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To: Robert-J
There are, of course, many libertarians who are believers. Buckley would be a notable example. If not a majority, then certainly a great many other libertarians are non-believers. As such, they hold that "man is the measure," just as the left does. But this is the crucial error of the left, failing to acknowledge our historically obvious fallibility, our thoroughly ingrained sinfulness, our need to humble ourselves before our Creator and accept His guidance. Engineering alone won't suffice, and, for all their reverence for the founding documents, this is where non-believing libertarians go astray.
44 posted on 12/17/2001 10:06:08 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: okie01
Ultimately, what they truly hate is submission to God, which leaves them no alternative but to worship the Liar. To do this, they must lie to themselves, not once, not occasionally, but perpetually. How else could they engage in a false religiosity that represents God as a woman, solemnizes homosexual matrimony and fundraises for communists?
45 posted on 12/17/2001 10:23:46 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Pokey78
At least Shaw and the Western sympathisers for Stalin believed in something: for all their folly, they had a kind of intellectual grandeur about them, a coherent philosophy to defend.

Shaw, however deluded, was genuinely brilliant: his plays still sparkle, challenge and delight. Who could say the same for today's dour crop of leftist non-entities? This is the trajectory by which movements rise, wither and vanish into well-deserved oblivion.

47 posted on 12/17/2001 11:06:34 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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To: Leisler
If it was down to jews, americans and the taliban, the left would take the taliban.

If America were invaded by Martians (think thirty-foot tall insect-like monsters) the left would cheer for the Martians.

48 posted on 12/18/2001 4:03:49 AM PST by aculeus
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To: calvarys
Osama Bin Laden was once a CIA Pet / Asset

That claim has been thoroughly refuted. If you have evidence, please post.

49 posted on 12/18/2001 9:17:01 AM PST by stop_fascism
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To: Bonaparte
Your points about the existence and failings of Godless libertarians is certainly worth exploration. But a Godless libertarian has no problem with having uncoerced prayer in schools, Christmas displays, or free exercise of religion. Consequently, they are far less a threat than liberals.
50 posted on 12/18/2001 12:37:42 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: denydenydeny
Thank you very much tripledeny. Good links.
51 posted on 12/18/2001 2:14:31 PM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: FastCoyote
I agree absolutely, FC.
52 posted on 12/18/2001 7:41:27 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: stop_fascism;Calvarys
[s_f to cavalrys]: "If you have evidence, please post."

Get ready for a 300 kb Chomsky file, "backed up" with a ponderous helping of Parenti. :-)

53 posted on 12/18/2001 7:51:11 PM PST by Bonaparte
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