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Kosovo - list of Civilians murdered presumably by KLA in 1998
hoplite gave me the link | unknwn | Yugoslav Government

Posted on 12/20/2001 12:22:07 PM PST by vooch

Note: For the record, please see how many of the names are those of moderate and loyalist Albanians who were anti-KLA. Today in UN occupied Kosovo, the killing of anti-KLA civilains continues

Civilians - victims of terrorism in 1998

Killed

Djordje Belic (1938), from the village of Stepenice, Klina Municipality, killed from ambush with automatic weapon on 9th January at about 21.10, in the yard of his family house.

Muja Sejdi (1946), forester of JP "Srbija sume", department in Glogovac, killed on 12th January, at about 08.45, in the dirt road at the village of Gradica, Glogovac Municipality. Terrorists waited for him in the vicinity of his house and shot him by 28 bullets fired from an automatic rifle.

Desimir Vasic (1948), from the village of Korilje, Zvecan Municipality, contractor, committee member and member of the Executive Board of SO Zvecan, found dead on 23rd January in the vehicle of "Mercedes" mark, in the dirt road leading to the village of Bice. Shiptar separatists killed Vasic by 26 bullets fired from automatic weapons.

Mustafa Kurtaj (1971) was killed in his village of Gornje Obrinje, Glogovac Municipality, in the terrorist attack carried out on 13th February, at about 07.00. Several unknown persons met Mustafa at the bus station while he was going to his work in "PTT Srbija" - RJ Glogovac. They put an end to his life by a number of automatic rifle shots.

Murat Dajakaj (1960) was killed in the terrorist attack carried out on 20th February, at about 13.30, in the village of Lausa, on Klina- Srbica road. Several attackers opened fire from automatic firearms at the truck in which Dajakaj was sitting next to the driver.

Milorad Ristic (1938), from Djakovica, was killed in the terrorist attack carried out on 20th February, at about 16.00 in the village of Lausa, Srbica Municipality. Terrorists opened fire from automatic weapons at the truck with Prizren registration.

Alija Recaj (1960) from the village of Sicevo, Klina Municipality, was killed on 21st February, at about 17.45 near peasants cooperative "Dobra voda". Terrorists took him out of his house at about 15.00 and drove him by vehicle "Lada" to the mentioned place where they put an end to his life by shots from automatic weapons.

Slobodan Prascevic (1945), from Djakovica, retired commander of the Police department in Rznic, was killed on 2nd March at 16.00 in Donje Ratiste, Decani Municipality. Terrorists from ambush fired several shots at the passenger vehicle driven by Prascevic.

Berisa Saliju (1948), owner of the fuel station at Kijevo, his brother Avduljaj Bajram, truck driver, Zogaj Ibrahim (1940) and his sons Ramadan and Fadilj, as well as Salijaj Ibrahim (1950), all from the territory of Klina Municipality, were found dead in the morning of 6th April at the place called "Carevac", beside the road Orahovac- Malisevo. Three days earlier they were seized by armed persons in camouflage uniforms with characteristics and emblems that are formationally used in the army of the Republic of Albania. The killed were successful businessmen and loyal citizens of the Republic of Serbia and Yugoslavia.

Serim Desku (1955), from Klincina, Klina Municipality, was killed at about 11.20 in his farm field. Six terrorists shot him with automatic firearms. Being a loyal citizen of Serbia, Serim voted at the referendum the previous day.

Djemalj Krasnici (1940), from Klina, was killed by terrorists, since he was known as a loyal citizen of the Republic of Serbia. His dead corpse was found on 27th April at about 11.00, near the road in the village of Globare, Glogovac Municipality. Around him there were two missiles and 19 cartridges of automatic weapons most often used by terrorists.

Slobodan Radosevic (1934) was killed by Albanian terrorists. He was kidnapped on 23rd April at about 05.00 from his house in the village of Dasinovac, Decani Municipality.

Binak Bakaj (1943), from the village of Ponosevac, was killed on 4th May at 05.00 in the village of Bogovac, Klina Municipality. Terrorists killed him in front of his house by shots from automatic firearms.

Nenad Jaredic (1970), from the village of Josanica, Klina Municipality, acting director of the post office in the village of Dobra Voda, was killed with knife and then shot at head by a bullet from an automatic firearm. Jaredic's disappearance was reported on 4th May, while his dead corpse was found the same day at about 06.00 beside the road in the village of Orlate, Glogovac Municipality.

Vejsel Krasnici (1951), from the village of Pusto Selo, Orahovac Municipality, forester in JP "Srbija sume", was killed with a number of strikes with mechanical arm and knife to all parts of his corpse and then shot with four missiles from an automatic weapon. Krasnici's corpse was found on 5th May at about 10.00 beside the road in the village of Trstenik, Glogovac Municipality.

Beg Sabanaja i Hajder Kuci, from Decane, loyal citizens of the Republic of Serbia, were killed by Shiptar terrorists by means of hanging and then thrown into a river. Their bodies were found on 6th May in Decani, in Bistrica River.

Mustafa Vebi (1956) was killed on 17th May at about 18.30 on the local road Kozur-Decane, in the vicinity of the monastery Visoki Decani in the terrorist attack performed from automatic firearm to the vehicle of "Elektrodistribucija" from Pec.

Avdulj Gasi (1949), from the village of Svrke Gasi, Klina Municipality, forester in JP "Srbija sume", was killed with shots from an automatic firearm. Terrorists took him out from his house on 7th May, while his corpse was found on 9th May at about 15.00 beside the road at the village of Volujak, Klina Municipality.

Ahmet Taci (1931), a loyal citizen of the Republic of Serbia, was killed by an automatic firearm. His disappearance was reported on 8th May, while his corpse was found on 10th May near the village of Loznica, wherefrom Taci originated, Klina Municipality.

Naim Krasnici (1953), member of the ethnical group of Gypsies, head of the registry office in the village of Crni Lug, Klina Municipality, was killed on 18th May at about 10.00 by shots from an automatic firearm.

Nedzat Pnisi was killed on 19th May at about 20.00 in the village of Smac, Djakovica Municipality. Terrorists armed with automatic rifles entered the village of shop, in which there were several persons, and fired a number of bursts.

Dalibor Lazarevic (1983) was killed by terrorists on 20th May at about 23.30 in the village of Budisavci, Klina Municipality. Terrorists attacked houses in which Serbian families live, took Lazarevic out of his yard and killed him with automatic firearm 5o meters far from his house.

Muhamed Sopa (1959), from Prizren, was killed by Shiptar separatists with shots from firearms. The corpse was found on 22nd May at about 06.00 near the village of Dulje, Suva reka Municipality. Terrorists had killed Muhamed first and then transported his corpse to the spot where it was found.

Sadrija Komoni (1933), from Pec, a loyal citizen of the Republic of Serbia, was killed by a shot from a firearm at the head, on 26th May at about 00.30. Terrorists made an attack on Komani in Pec, in the street Dusana Mugose bb.

Julka Djurkovic, from Decane, was killed on 26th May between 15.00 and 16.00 in front of her perents' house in Decani, in the street Cara Dusana bb. Terrorists killed her by a shot from firearms, which stroke her into the thorax area. The corpse was found by her husband Veljko, who after that committed suicide by a pistol.

Vidosava Simovic (1932) was assasinated in the terrorist attack made on 31st May in the village of Locane, Decani Municipality. Terrorists shot with automatic weapons at the house of Vidosava Simic.

Sesta Sausi (1965) was severely injured in the terrorist attack made on 2nd June at 12.50 in the village of Junik, Decani Municipality. He died the next day in the hospital of Djakovica.

Uka Taci (1972) was assassinated on 2nd June at 20.30 in the village of Kosuric, Pec Municipality. Two armed terrorists rushed into the house of Taci family and by force took Uka outside and killed him with automatic weapon in their yard.

Berisa Zumber (1939), from Krusevac village, Pec Municipality, was killed by terrorists with automatic firearms. His corpse was found on 3rd June at 13.00 in Bistrica River, near Pec.

Blagoje Jovanovic (1944) was killed with automatic firearms on 5th June at 13.30 in the village of Kostrc, Srbica Municipality. Terrorists shot at Blagoje's house and stroke him down in the yard.

Alija Bajram, from Donja Stubica, Istok Municipality, was assasinated by terrorists. They then cut off his head and both hands. His corpse was found on 6th June at about 7.50 in the village of Ukca, Istok Municipality.

Gasi Ajeti (1954), from the village of Babovac, Klina Municipality, was killed by terrorists with firearms. His corpse was found on 13th June, beside the road Magure-Sedlare, in the vicinity of the village of Laletic.

Zivojin Milic (1930), from the village of Sibovac, Obilic Municipality, was assassinated by terrorists with hits into his head and then several shots from firearms. His corpse was found on 17th June at about 17.00 near the village of Trnavce, beside the road Kosovska Mitrovica-Srbica.

Ismet Berisa (1972), from Suva Reka, was killed by terrorists with more than 30 bulets from automatic firearms. His corpse was found on 19th June at 7.00 beside the road Lesane-Suva Reka.

Oliver Zajic (1980), from the village of Duzevici, Klina Municipality, was killed by terrorists in the attack made on the inhabitants of that village of with automatic and sniper weapons as well as with bazookas.

Slobodan Radosevic (1934) and Milos Radunovic (1933), from the village of Dusanovci, Djakovica Municipality, were killed by Albanian terrorists. They were seized from their houses on 23rd April at about 05.00. Their corpses were found on 22nd June in the village of Dusanovci.

Slavko Skrkic (1956), from the village of Krnjina, Istok Municipality, was killed by terrorists on 22nd June at about 06.30 on the road connecting the villages of Rakos and Krnjina.

Rados Spasic (1945), director of "Laza Lazarevic" elementary school in the village of Kijevo, Klina Municipality, was killed in the terrorist attack made on 24th June at about 18.00. Terrorists killed him with shots from automatic and sniper weapons when he came out to feed his livestock.

Isa Sehu (1955) was found dead on 28th June in the village of Mamusa, Prizren Municipality, in front of a construction material warehouse. Terrorists killed him with shots from firearms.

Grujica Zmigic (1972), from the village of Drsnik, Klina Municipality, was killed in the terrorist attack made on 30th June at about 20.00, with bazookas, automatic and sniper weapons and by activation of hand grenades at Serbian and Montenegrian population of that village of.

Svetomir Bisevac, from the village of Leska, was killed by terrorist with arms and a blunt object. His corpse was found on 7th July at the spot called Ploce, beside the road Orahovac-Malisevo.

Gasi Marko (1972), from the village of Dobri Do, Orahovac Municipality, was killed by terrorists with shots from firearms and strokes of an axe at the head. His corpse was found on 17th July at the road Kosovska Mitrovica-Srbica, in the village of Brabonjic, Kosovska Mitrovica Municipality.

Aleksandar Majmarevic, Bora Simic, Vekoslav Kazic and Jagos Fildjokic, from Orahovac, and Andjelko Kostic from Retimlje village, Orahovac Municipality, were killed by Albanian terrorists in attacks on Orahovac on 17th July.

Hoti Abaz (1945), from Djakovica, was killed on 18th July at 18.00 in his field while he was keeping his cows, in the settlement Piskote, Djakovica Municipality.

Rados Krstic (1964), from Zajmovi, employee of the Minicipal Court in Klina, was killed by terrorists with a shot from a sniper on 20th July on the road Pec-Pristina, near the village of Zajmovi, Klina Municipality.

Adem Djuka (1971) and Bakir Djuka (1977), from Pec, were killed with guns by Albanian terrorists. Their corpses were found on 24th July at about 06.15 near the road in the village of Trebovic, Pec Municipality.

Bijupi Ljulzim (1961) was killed by terrorists on 26th July in the afternoon in the course of the attack on the village of Orlate, Glogovac Municipality.

Velimir Knezevic (1920), from Erec, was killed by Albanian terrorists with shots from automatic weapons, while his corpse was found on 6th August near the main road Djakovica-Pec.

Bakij Stavica (1960), from Orahovac, was killed by Albanian terrorists on 19th July, while his corpse was found on 6th August in Orahovac near Rimnik stream.

Hanumsaha Eminazeri (1949), from Orahovac, was killed by terrorists, while her corpse was found at the place called Padina in Orahovac.

With shots from automatic arms, Albanian terrorists killed Pren (1933) and Mira (1934) Merturi and Prek (1932) and Prende (1935) Krasnici from the village of Mece, while their corpses were found on 6th August in the village of Mece, Djakovica Municipality.

Djemailj Krueziju (1963), a loyal citizen of the Republic of Serbia, was killed by Albanian terrorists on 10th August at about 01.00 in his family house in Suva Reka with shots from an automatic rifle.

Radovan Stepic (1959) was killed by Albanian terrorists on 11th August at about 14.30 in the village of Drenovac, Klina Municipality, with shots from automatic weapons.

Cveta Simic succumbed to severe wounds caused by Albanian terrorists. The terrorists seized her on 26th June during the attack on the village of Pantine and kept her till 7th July when they left her, exhausted and disabled from torturing, beside the road Vucitrn-Pantina in the vicinity of the village drinking fountain.

Predrag Stojanovic (1976) was killed by Albanian terrorists from ambush with shots from automatic weapons on 20th August at about 01.00 in the village of Zociste, Orahovac Municipality.

Ljatifa Koljoli (1953) and her daughter Ruza, from the village of Budakovo, Suva Reka Municipality, were killed by Albanian terrorists. Their corpses were found on 23rd August beside the road Prizren-Suva Reka, near the village of Toplicane, Suva Reka Municipality.

Gasi Bedjet (1943) and Gasi Ruzdi (1958), from Suva Reka, were killed by Albanian terrorists. Their corpses were found on 25th August at about 15.00 on the local road Suva Reka-Orahovac, near the village of Restane, in a passenger vehicle "Renau 9" without registration plates.

Eljsani Nadzemedin (1965), from the village of Ozren, Pec Municipality, was killed by Albanian terrorists from firearms. His corpse was found on 29th August in the village of Banjica, Istok Municipality.

Hidaet Hadjijahi (1930), from Orahovac, killed in the terrorist attack made on 18th July, when terrorists torn down and set fire to his house. The corpse was found on 2nd September.

Bojadzi Fatmira (1964), Decaj Repsta (1969) and Decaj Banika, from Prizren, were on 1st September killed by Shiptar terrorists with firearms in a forest in the territory of the settlement Biljbidera. Their corpses were found on 7th September.

Poniku Arsim (1979) and his uncle Poniku Asret (1964) were killed on 7th September by Shiptar terrorists. Arsim was killed during the attack to Ponuku's house in street Zvecanska in Prizren at 20.20, while Asret was driven in an unknown direction. His massacred corpse was found a day later in the vicinity of the Muslim cemetery in Prizren.

Tadija Radivojevic, from the village of Svinjare, Kosovska Mitrovica Municipality, driver of the ambulance vehicle in "Stari Trg" mine, was killed in the terrorist attack made on 8th September at about 22.40. Infantry arms were used in this attack at policemen and workers of the physical security of "Trepca" mine in Stari Trg.

Domdjonas Marijan (1946), from the village of Grazdanik, Prizren Municipality was killed with firearms on 30th August. His corpse was found on 9th September in the area of the village of Leskovac.

Djekaj Dina (1951), from the village of Rznic, Decani Municipality, was killed by Albanian terrorists from firearms. His corpse was found on 9th September in the meadow by the road in the area of the village of Skivljan, Djakovica Municipality.

Milos Radunovic (1938), from Ljumbarda, Decani Municipality, and Slobodan Radosevic (1936), from Dasinovci, were killed by Albanian terrorists. Their corpses were identified among other male and female corpses found on 10th September in the wider area of the village of Dasinovac, Decani Municipality, in the vicinity of the intersection of the road to the village of Donji Ratis.

Banikaj Ekrem (1958) was killed with several shots from automatic weapons. He was kidnapped on 31st May, while his corpse was found on 11th September in the village of Krusevac, Pec Municipality.

Djulja Hajdari (1925) was killed by Albanian terrorists by throwing into the well in front of her house in the village of Drenovac, Klina Municipality. Her corpse was found on 14th September.

Zujkaj Sefceta (1945), from Beleg, Decani Municipality, was killed by Albanian terrorists. His corpse was found on 16th September in the village of Beleg, in the field planted with maize.

Haljilji Berisa (1941), from Rznic, was killed by Albanian terrorists. His corpse was found on 17th September in the hamlet of Dodaj, Decani Municipality.

Bahri Sulja, from Bencuk, Vucitrn Municipality, was killed by Albanian terrorists. On 18th September at 17.40 in the village of Mijalic, Vucitrn Municipality, Sam Saraci from Bivoljak and another unidentified person made an attack from automatic firearms to the passenger vehicle in which were Sasa Milovanovic and Milos Skulic. On that occasion Sulja, who was in front of the nearby shop, was killed.

Djemaj Betim (1985) and Djemaj Behar (1987) lost their lives on 19th September at about 12.00 in explosion of a mine planted by Albanian terrorists in the area of the village of Leskovac, Prizren Municipality.

Adrijana Klinaku, 6-month-old baby, was killed in terrorist attack made on 23rd September at about 11.00 in the vicinity of the village of Sibovac, Obilic Municipality. A mine from a bazooka stroke at the tractor-trailer.

Robaj Spetim (1957), doctor-anesthesiologist in MKCK from Pristina, killed on 30th September on the road connecting Gornja Obrinja village, Glogovac Municipality, and Likovac village, Srbica Municipality. A vehicle of the International Committee of the Red Cross from Switzerland ran onto a pressure mine placed by Albanian terrorists during their withdrawal from that area.

Bafi Bajraktari (1913) succumbed to the wounds inflicted in the terrorist attack made on 29th September in Budakovo village, Suva Reka Municipality.

Sufaj Suljo (1922) was killed by terrorists. His corpse with partly burned and carbonized bones was found in the septic tank of his family house on 4th October in the village of Prilep.

Gasi Ljuman (1955), from Djinovac, was seized by Albanian terrorists on 2nd July. His corpse was found on 10th October on the road connecting Lesane and Trnja villages, Suva Reka Municipality.

Dren Sef (1932) was killed in the terrorist attack made on 29th October at about 00.15 in the village of Firza, Djakovica Municipality. Terrorists entered into his yard and killed him with shots from automatic weapons.

Murat Hadjosaja (1942) was killed by Albanian terrorists on 13th November at about 18.00 in Prekoluka village, Decani Municipality. Terrorists took him out of the village and killed him with shots from automatic rifles.


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To: Gael
Just look at us. We are trying to reason seriously with a geek who, either for the sake of intelectual exercise wants to give perpetual contra arguments or he is more connected to one of the Balkan parties than he wants us to know.
21 posted on 12/20/2001 5:16:56 PM PST by Leonora
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To: bluester, gael, joan, leonora, torie, consistentlibertarian
Blue,

FYI this list came from Hoppie on another thread. And it provides overwhelming evidence that Kosovo is a far more dangerous place to live since Kfor took responsibilty for the safety and security of the people there

Hoplite knows full well that his 1200 "people" killed in 1998 includes combatants . Perhaps Hoplite is correct in one sense.......... for the KLA, life is much better now that Kfor is around.........but for civilians....Albanian, Jewish, Roma, Serb, Gorani, and others life under UN rule is many times more dangerous than before.

200 (Hoplite's number) - 500 (Demaci's number) civilians dead
is simply much less than
1,100 dead and 1,300 'disappeared' presumed dead

22 posted on 12/20/2001 5:19:41 PM PST by vooch
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To: Leonora
If I can't compare Kosovo ante and post bellum, why do people keep saying it's worse now than it was before?

1,200 Murders in Atlanta? I suggest you find a different congressman to listen to.

The death rate for KFOR soldiers is not out of line with soldiers serving elsewhere, and unlike the 'soldiers' they replaced, haven't been given license to rape, rob, and kill while actively driving segments of the population over the closest border.

If you want to be a profiler, well, don't quit your day job, ok?

23 posted on 12/20/2001 5:24:29 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Hoplite to Vooch
The difference is that people like Vooch are attempting to lie and deny when it comes to Serb crimes against Kosovar Albanians (or Bosnians, or Croats), while playing up events where Serbs are victimized to their fullest extent,
24 posted on 12/20/2001 5:25:01 PM PST by vooch
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To: Hoplite
Hoplite to Gael
The Krajina Serbs were not the worst refugee problem in the balkans, and why on earth would you post to such an obviously erroneous article - 14,000 killed in Operation Storm?

I hope you didn't spend too much time on the rest of your post, Gael, 'cause I've given it all the time it deserves already.

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one observantion............Hoplite has a wonderful sense of irony to post these two statements within a few hours of each other on the same thread

25 posted on 12/20/2001 5:27:36 PM PST by vooch
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To: Hoplite
Whatsamatta, can’t ‘fess up to the true nature of those you support? You don’t like Michael Reagan? Fine. How about this as a coda to Budak’s policy? Virtually the entire Serb population, estimated at 250,000, fled.

Oh yeah, before I forget: The two operations led to the flight of more than 200,000 Serbs into Eastern Slavonia, Bosnia, and Croatia, the single largest population displacement during the conflict in the former Yugoslavia..

26 posted on 12/20/2001 5:30:18 PM PST by Gael
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To: Gael
now Hoplite is going to tell us that the Jewish World Review is a mouthpiece of Slobo's apparatus....
27 posted on 12/20/2001 5:31:52 PM PST by vooch
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To: Hoplite, vooch
If I can't compare Kosovo ante and post bellum, why do people keep saying it's worse now than it was before?

No, we are comparing comapring it to pre-KLA Kosovo. And most moderate Albanians were quite happy in pre-KLA Yugoslavia, the only grudge they had was that economically Kosovo was behind the rest of Yugoslavia. But, that was the grudge that Serbs, and other non-Albaninas in Kosovo had as well.

..and unlike the 'soldiers' they replaced, haven't been given license to rape, rob, and kill while actively driving segments of the population over the closest border.

And it was shown many times at least on this forum that all of these things were not true, but were part of the propaganda machine to justify Clinton's failed Balkans policy.

28 posted on 12/20/2001 5:35:30 PM PST by Leonora
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To: Leonora; vooch
Good point Leonora, but it's not his mind I'm trying to change. Indeed, having a foil like this simply provides us with a series of opportunities to present not only the facts, but put them into their historical context. It's the lurkers and undecided Freepers who are the audience for my comments. Look at it this way -- if we didn't have a Hoplite, we'd have to create one. And besides, I love a fight for its own sake. Unfortunately, my brief return to FR must shortly end, as more mundane matters again require my full time and attention.
29 posted on 12/20/2001 5:38:21 PM PST by Gael
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To: Gael
It's nice to see you posting again, I hope you'll come back soon. You are a great help in skirmishes like this one.

(And it's good idea for me to quit freeping for a while, if I want to have any work done.)

I wish you happy holidays.

30 posted on 12/20/2001 5:45:56 PM PST by Leonora
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To: Leonora
Thanks, Leonora, and you as well. I'll check in on this thread through tomorrow, and then pack it in for a while.
31 posted on 12/20/2001 5:53:14 PM PST by Gael
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To: bluester
Maybe you should read the list again. At least half of the people on the list are of Albanian descent.
32 posted on 12/20/2001 6:10:31 PM PST by Vojvodina
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To: Gael
Weird.

You were almost rational-like on the Izetbegovic/Abdic thread.

How's about we keep this thread centered on deaths in Kosovo instead of losing focus? If you want to talk Croatia, feel free to start another thread, and we can devote that to Operation Storm and other ethnic cleansings that happened in Croatia.

NO! DON'T GO! SEND VOOCH!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SEND VOOCH INSTEAD!!!

Lastly, if you're going to use me as a foil, you'd better start making some better arguments, bud. (And I could swear I said the same thing about someone else here once upon a time.)

33 posted on 12/20/2001 6:33:18 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Leonora
Uh, define what you mean by "pre-KLA Yugoslavia", 'cause that was 1996 and before, while most moderate Albanians had a gripe as soon as Milosevic retooled their government in 1989.

And it was shown many times at least on this forum that all of these things were not true, but were part of the propaganda machine to justify Clinton's failed Balkans policy.

No, sorry. You can repeat it as often as you like to your friends, but it doesn't pass muster in the real world.

Just like this amateur hour civilian murder theory is going to go up in smoke as soon as we get down to the facts.

Seriously, don't you people ever get embarassed by Vooch? Once bitten et al.

34 posted on 12/20/2001 6:41:51 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Vojvodina
I was not talking about people killed by KLA, but by Serb forces.
35 posted on 12/20/2001 10:15:28 PM PST by bluester
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To: Hoplite
How convenient of you to choose 1998, after the KLA was formed. If you look at the statistics from the early 90's (or any period before the KLA existed), you'll notice people were living peacefully, even though the brutal genocidal oppressive Serbs controlled the province. The Serbian army was sent to Kosovo to deal with the KLA. No KLA, no Serb troops. Simple as that.
36 posted on 12/21/2001 6:08:42 AM PST by The Big Dog
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To: vooch
especially if you are a moderate or loyalist Albanian, Kosovo is the worst place in the world to live

You're probably right, but I was refering to a time when an old Serbian man was beaten up because he went into a store and addressed the store owner in Serbian. Big mistake. Speaking Serbian in some parts of Kosovo will get you beaten up, or worse. It's amazing how some people think Kosovo is better today than five years ago, when people were allowed to speak whichever language they wanted without worrying about getting their butt kicked.

37 posted on 12/21/2001 6:13:22 AM PST by The Big Dog
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To: The Big Dog
especially if you are a moderate or loyalist Albanian, Kosovo is the worst place in the world to live

You're probably right.........It's amazing how some people think Kosovo is better today than five years ago, when people were allowed to speak whichever language they wanted without worrying about getting their butt kicked.

Indeed...........while the fate of KosMet minorities has taken center stage we should never forget those unfortunate moderate and loyalist Albanians who are defenseless against KLA terror.

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Hoplite, are you trying to tell uis that those KLA and MUP killed in 1998 were NOT combatants ?

38 posted on 12/21/2001 7:02:36 AM PST by vooch
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To: Hoplite
Yup, Kosovo sure is a happy place now that the UN is in charge.....

2 US Police Officers suspects in Kosovo White Slavery Ring [MT}
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b449efd7bcd.htm

800 Roma murdered since Kfor/KLA occupation began
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b7279cf465b.htm

Albanian rebels are fighting to protect mafia interests: expert
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3aba6c6547c2.htm

Albanian rebels swear no one will leave Macedonian village (UCK use their own as human shields)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3af1c8cb0465.htm

British troops' error led to bus bomb (KLA bomb attack)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b63b5637ff8.htm

Canadian Soldier says"NATO sleeping with the enemy" in Balkans
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b87e065149b.htm

Charity: Albanian children sold into sex slavery
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3ae1a2a93f2d.htm

Children Missing, Kidnapped, Killed and Burned Alive in Kosovo and Metohija After June 10, 1999
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b140e6e0f62.htm

Detailed Body Count of Clinton's Kosovo War
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a39fa5c094b29.htm

Ethnic Cleansing by the KLA ( in pictures)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3ac0bf2a6a04.htm

Ethnic guerrillas target Albanians (WP 12Marc01)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3aad074636b7.htm

Just like in a concentration camp, only without the barbwire
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b57f5e27cf9.htm

KLA actively recruiting; Kfor does nothing (my title)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a8d44664f02.htm

KLA intimindates once lively Kosovo Media; Kfor does nothing (my title)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a8b4c590aee.htm

KLA killed moderate & loyalist Albanians in 1998 and 1999
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a8d74920fd6.htm

KLA murdering Rampage against Albanians says Adem Demaci - post #14
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3bd1b54b486f.htm

KLA shreds 11,000 books while Kfor looks on (my title)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a8ad4596d1f.htm

Kosovo - Why does Kfor support KLA killer Remi ?
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a38a336d53291.htm

Kosovo and Code of Lek (Globe Dec 2001)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3c13a5590df1.htm

Loyalist Albanian Politician Gunned Down by KLA in Front of Family
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b9380e13e4f.htm

SAS faces own trainees in Balkans
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3ac0e18a1c2e.htm

The Flesh Auction: Albanian Girls Kidnapped, Devoured Into a World of Prostitution
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b0a15724b24.htm

U.N. police involved in brothels in KosMet occupation zone
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b2f68783714.htm

Ultra-nationalist KLA paper caught airbrushing Photo (my title)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3ac114bb682f.htm

UN will sack Albanians in KPF (KLA fired in Kosovo?)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3ac6ebce3618.htm

US Reprimands Kosovo Disaster Relief Group as Front for KLA
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b5ef4d014ae.htm

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some backgrounders
None Dare Call It Fascism
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a8eeaab6555.htm

Nuremberg Lawyer Calls Clinton's War a "Supreme Crime"
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a880edf01a4.htm

The Balkans: Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow [Ben Works Speech Delivered at Toronto, Ontario]
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b2789504d81.htm

The SAS helped train the KLA in 1998
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a95316b3e21.htm

What the Yugoslavs really said at Rambouillet - Kosovo
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a392c54c7688e.htm

U.S. Army 'Psyops' Specialists worked for CNN
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a38bc140a71dd.htm

39 posted on 12/21/2001 7:14:50 AM PST by vooch
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To: Gael, hoplite, torie, ranger, balkans, bluester, vojvodina, dta, joan
something Joan posted a while back......

"...........To: vooch

Here are some telling descriptions of the security situation in Kosovo today. The first is from Adem Demachi, former political leader of the KLA and head of those who "recently created the so-called Kosovo Constituation." A quote from his conversation with "Blic" in an article, 10/21/01, entitled "Criminal activities reign" :

"There are still murders occurring. The Serbs are not the only ones who have been persecuted against. There is not one humanitarian organization that has not been looted even though they are protected and well secured. No one here can get a guarantee for anything because KFOR and UNMIK don't want to solve problems. We must do this ourselves by having everyone participate in the elections and giving legitimacy to the Parliament to assume power," said Demachi.

Here's another report from inet (10/20/01), which shows that even OSCE officials, Western diploments, even members of the international police forces are not immune.

University residential block assailed by burglars In only two days, still unidentified burglars broke into four houses in Pristina's University residence. According to what witnessing children who were playing around said, they took 1,400 Deutsche Marks from a house of an Albanian owner, and from one hired to a tenant from the international police forces they stole a camera and more items. They also broke into a house occupied by OSCE officials, as well as one sublet to a Western European diplomat. His house was not plundered owing to the fact that immediately after they broke into it, friends of the diplomat stopped by. The burglars ran away jumping through the window at the first floor. Thefts like these happened usually by day, when residents of the University settlement were away at work in different international organizations. In the University residence after Serb University professors as the proprietors had left in 1999, there are mostly high officials of UNMIK, OSCE, and other international organizations, as well as international police officers.

14 posted on 10/22/01 11:13 AM Pacific by joan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] ................."

40 posted on 12/21/2001 9:41:55 AM PST by vooch
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