Wow! I hope a lot of FR posters and lurkers read this. Thanks and FReegards.

Hey, guess what I just dug up!? I didn't know this until I just found this on the Internet:

The two US thugs who shot the Black Panthers in 1969 after the Black Panthers dissed Karenga at a Black Studies meeting on the UCLA Campus were brothers - Larry and George Stiner.

Both were sentenced to life in prison for murder but escaped in 1974 after five years at San Quentin. Larry Stiner returned to the United States in 1994 from Surinam and is back in prison. His brother remains at large.

Wow! The things you can dig up on the Internet. I wonder if Karenga knows anything about Stiner's whereabouts...

How can Karenga and other Kwanzaa supporters say that this stuff is all in the past, their debt to society has been paid, and that it should be put behind them when at least two of the murderers in US (the official Kwanzaa organization) haven't completed their sentences? They both escaped from prison instead of serving their time and one hasn't come back yet to complete his sentence.

Oooh - here's another good one that I just found on the California Department of Corrections website:



NAME: STINER, GEORGE

CDC ID:	B19860	CA CI&I:	2402304
FBI:	915014F	DOB:	9/7/1946
RACE/SEX:	BLK / MALE	HGT/WGT:	6'1" / 165 (1974)
HAIR/EYE:	BLK / BRN	SCARS/TATTOOS:	None Known
COMMITMENT OFFENSE:	Murder
OTHER INFORMATION:	CONSIDERED ARMED AND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND AN ESCAPE RISK

On January 17, 1969, George Stiner and his brother, Larry Stiner, were charged and convicted of murdering two members of the Black Panthers. George and Larry were said to be members of the 4th US Party. On March 31, 1974, it was discovered that both Stiner brothers had escaped from the family visiting area in San Quentin State Prison.

Larry Stiner turned himself into the FBI in Caracas, Venezuela on December 13, 1994. He remains in custody at San Quentin. George Stiner remains at large and his whereabouts remain unknown.

Any information as to his whereabouts should be forwarded to Lieutenant Bruce Jones Law Enforcement and Investigations Unit (LEIU) at (916) 327-3268, California Department of Corrections ID Warrant Unit (24-hour number) at (916) 445-6713 or your local FBI office.

Oh! oh! Guess what!? Stiner is one of California's 10 Most Wanted. I'll bet if you go to any California Post Office, you'll see a picture of one of Karenga's US thugs staring back at you. Ha! The face of Kwanzaa right there.

Go here to see the California's 10 Most Wanted page.

Looks like the Marin County District Attorney is looking for George Stiner too:

International Crime Alert

Wanted by the

MARIN COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY

GEORGE STINER

Description: George Stiner is a black male born in Houston, Texas, on September 7th, 1946. He is one-meter eighty-five centimeters tall. His weight at this time is unknown. He has black hair which may be graying and brown eyes. Stiner should be considered dangerous. The United States is seeking Stiner¦s arrest and extradition from any country in which he may hiding. He is the subject of an arrest notice by INTERPOL.

Case Details: George Stiner is wanted by California authorities for his escape from San Quentin State Prison. He and his brother, Larry, were both serving life sentences for murder when they escaped from the Marin County, California, facility on March 31, 1974. The brothers fled U.S. jurisdiction. In 1993, Larry Steiner voluntarily appeared at the U.S. Embassy in Paramaribo, Suriname. He returned to the U.S. and was convicted, a year later, of escaping. His brother George remains a fugitive.

If you have information concerning George Stiner, you should contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate. Or call the Marin County, California, District Attorney's Office at 415-499-6506. All tips will be investigated. The identities of all informants will be kept confidential.