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Living the outlaw life:National ID — Our Line in the Sand
Backwoods Home Magazine ^ | could be 1984.. | Claire Wolfe

Posted on 01/01/2002 9:13:35 AM PST by Jhoffa_

“If you don’t have anything to hide, it’s not a problem.”

“It’ll help stop terrorism and illegal immigration.”


If you hold either of those views about national ID, for the sake of your own future I hope you’ll reconsider.

“Sure it’s obnoxious. But get real; we already have a national ID system. It’s called our driver’s license. Or Social Security. What they’re talking about now is just a technical refinement.”

If you hold that view, you’re right -- as far as it goes. But things are going to go a lot farther.

If we accept national ID, we’ll all have a problem. We won’t be one bit safer from violence. And we will have crossed a crucial line that forever divides the free from the unfree.

What they’re proposing

National ID isn’t a new idea. American politicians and bureaucrats have been proposing it since the Great Depression. “Infallible” national ID has been proposed over the years as a means of fighting communism, illegal immigration, crime, census undercounting, terrorism, welfare fraud, and a variety of other disasters du jour.

Until now, Americans have always said no to being forced to show “Your papers, please!” on demand. But since the catastrophe of September 11, polls say as many as 87 percent of us may be willing to submit to a nationwide, biometric ID system.

Larry Ellison, CEO of the giant database company Oracle, has been the chief cheerleader for the proposed system, which would require us to carry a card containing a scannable “smart chip,” and would identify us through a combination of our Social Security number, fingerprint, and retinal pattern or facial-recognition scan (this is called biometrics -- measuring of our biological characteristics). Ellison admits that from its inception the accompanying federal ID database would give government agencies, and anyone else with access, instant information on our “places of work, amounts and sources of income, assets, purchases, travel destinations, and more.”[1]

President Bush is reported as not favoring national ID. But statements coming out of the White House have been non-committal -- of the “we‘re keeping all options open“ variety. Dozens of high-level government officials, including Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Attorney General John Ashcroft, do favor the scheme.

At first the cards wouldn’t be mandatory -- at least not in Ellison‘s plan. But even in the “voluntary” system, anyone who “chose” not to present a national ID card and submit to biometric scans on demand would be subject to invasive body searches at airports and extensive, humiliating, time-consuming questioning at checkpoints about his identity, plans, motives, and activities. Everyone without approved ID would, in short, be treated as a criminal suspect.

If the system became legally mandatory, those refusing to cooperate could also be arrested, jailed and fined.

There‘s an alternative plan in the works. The American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA) has been striving for years to get biometric national ID implemented by stealth -- by having states, under federal mandate, convert their own IDs and drivers licenses to biometric form, then linking all 50 state databases into a nationwide system. They have partially succeeded by getting congressional leaders to plant small, hidden “land-mines” in large bills passed by Congress since 1996.

The AAMVA announced in November 2001 that it was “working closely” with the new Office of Homeland Security to implement a mandatory biometric system through state licensing agencies. And this system would be mandatory.

Why is this a problem?

Well, so what? The United States isn’t Nazi Germany -- which used a computerized national ID system to round up Jews and other “undesirables” and send them to slave labor and death. (This “civilized” bureaucratic process behind the Nazi slaughter is icily documented in Edwin Black’s 2000 book, IBM and the Holocaust.) So what’s the big deal?

The very big deal is “mission creep.” When Social Security numbers were introduced in the 1930s, the system was “voluntary.” Citizens who worried about the biblical number of the Beast (Rev. 13: 16-18) or more mundane forms of tyranny were assured that, by law, the number would never -- ever -- be used for ID.

In the tradition of nearly every limited, temporary, or voluntary government program our Social Security number eventually became our universal identifier. No law requires you to get a Social Security number, even today. But try functioning in the everyday world of work, banking, credit, schooling, home-buying, or even video rental without one.

If national ID becomes U.S. law, five years from now you won’t be able to do any of these things without submitting to various biometric scans. But that’s barely the beginning.

The new, more high-tech national ID system would enable the federal government and its contractors to follow and electronically analyze your activities in real-time -- to pinpoint your location, check your purchases, view records of your medical condition, and monitor your bank deposits and withdrawals as you make them, for instance. Worse yet, it ultimately gives government the ability to control your activities -- to (accidentally or deliberately) freeze your bank account, shut down your credit cards, deny you access to public transportation, forbid you entry into such public places as county courthouses, deny you health care, even deny you entrance to your job once your employer has (in the name of standardization, and possibly with the spur of federal subsidies or regulations) adopted the federal system. All at the click of a computer key, somewhere in Washington, D.C.

Does this sound too much like something out of the movie “Enemy of the State”?

But remember, you’re dealing with a federal government that already forbids professional licenses, drivers licenses, and even fishing licenses not to known terrorists, criminals, or illegals -- but to ordinary parents who get behind in child support. Just think what it could do to with the instant ability to monitor and cut off access to transportation or services for a variety of disobedient or “questionable“ people.

It could happen to you if you’re a “deadbeat dad,” if you’ve neglected some traffic tickets, if you fit the “profile” of a drug user or a gun owner, if you’ve stated too many controversial opinions on the Internet, if your activities appear “suspicious” by any mysterious standard, if you’ve made political enemies -- or even if there’s a glitch in the system. And have you ever tried to straighten out even a little glitch with a government agency? Good luck to you.

This is still only the beginning. Shortly (after too many people have misplaced their cards, and too many criminals continued to get useable ID), the card-borne “smart chip” would be replaced by an implanted chip -- one of which, Digital Angel, is already on the market. Periodic scanning could then be augmented by 24-hour-a-day, satellite-based tracking. People in the U.S. will be watched and controlled far more thoroughly than Winston Smith was controlled by Big Brother in 1984 -- and for the very same reasons; to impose some social manager’s ideal of order.

The second big deal is self-ownership. Maybe you don’t believe the scenario I just spelled out. You know the U.S. government is judicious and benevolent, and that it would only monitor, not control us.

Before you say, “It’s no problem if you have nothing to hide,” consider this:

If you catch your neighbor peeking through a knothole in the fence, you’re offended -- even if your neighbor merely sees you drinking a glass of iced tea. If you came home and found that same neighbor going through your bank statements, credit card records, school transcripts, medical records, and travel itineraries in your desk, you’d be livid, and you’d probably call the cops -- again, even if your financial and personal life was pure as new snow. Why? Because your neighbor has stepped over a line; he has violated the psychic and physical territory that belongs only to you.

Where did the government acquire the authority to freely inspect your life? What legitimate law enforcement or security purpose is served by surveiling the innocent?

The question isn’t what do you have to hide but why is the government so persistently determined to find out everything about you.

The third big deal is that national ID violates your rights

When you have to prove your identity to government agents on demand, you’re being treated as a criminal -- and your Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights are being trashed.

When you have to produce identity papers on demand, you’re being searched illegally. If you’re “detained” until you prove your identity, you’re being seized illegally. Both are violations of the Fourth Amendment.

If you must give information that could get you prosecuted (for instance, the information that you’re not carrying your national ID), you’re being forced to provide evidence against yourself -- a Fifth Amendment violation.

If your religion forbids universal numbering, your First Amendment rights are being broken by national ID.

And by extending its authority into areas forbidden to it by the Constitution, the federal government violates the Ninth and Tenth Amendments.

Is it worth it to you, to gain national ID and lose all these historic protections?

Worse. Your loss of freedom won’t do anything to make you safe

Random surveillance may help criminals and terrorists. Even before the September 11 attacks, commentators such as Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum and former CIA operative Reuel Marc Gerecht had warned that reliance on mass electronic surveillance and neglect of hard, culturally aware field work, was causing U.S. intelligence agencies to overlook years of extensive planning by terrorists.[2]

Mass surveillance catches the unwary -- ordinary people who may engage in unpopular political activities, have innocently “suspicious” patterns of behavior, or who accidentally violate obscure technical provisions of law. Mass surveillance might also catch petty larcenous (and not very bright) criminals. But serious criminals -- and that includes international terrorists -- take precautions against random spying. Thus, they get away with planning murder while the National Security Agency is overloaded, scanning your e-mails for “dangerous” words and while the FBI’s Carnivore gobbles up millions of useless records of worldwide Web surfing habits.

National ID -- with its on-the-spot links to vast databases of material covering your financial activities, skills, travels, and interests -- is simply more of the same, only with faster, more detailed, more widespread reporting. It targets YOU without protecting you from them.

Criminals, terrorists, and illegal immigrants will still get useable fake ID. We’re supposed to believe that when we present that card and subject ourselves to the accompanying biometric scans, we’re proving beyond all doubt that we’re who we say we are.

Well, we’re not doing that.

And even if we were, so what?

Anybody who wants it badly enough and is able to pay the price will still get fake ID -- even biometric national ID.

Want proof? When the AAMVA succeeded in getting its last round of “foolproof” ID imposed via state drivers licensing agencies in the mid-1990s, an entire industry developed in which employees of government licensing agencies sold “real” ID to illegal immigrants and criminals -- complete with scannable, verifiable database entries, real fingerprints, real digitized photos, and plausible but non-existent Social Security numbers.

Social Security employees have also been caught selling “real” SSNs, complete with “real” database entries, to illegal immigrants, including at least one terrorism suspect.

Exactly that same thing will happen with any ID system -- no matter how sophisticated or allegedly secure it is. (Naturally fake ID will always be available. How do you think the CIA, FBI, DEA, IRS, et al. manage to provide “cover” identities for their secret agents? Well-heeled criminals will simply imitate the methods originated by government intelligence agencies.)

Terrorists will still get genuine ID. Thousands of foreign agents (and potential suicide attackers) will continue to get real U.S. ID -- as at least 13 of the 19 September 11 hijackers did. A well-funded terrorist organization or foreign government with long-term plans to harm the U.S. would simply insert into this country, entirely “clean” agents -- idealistic students, legitimate contractors or diplomats, all with unobjectionable records -- who would be fully qualified to obtain genuine U.S. national ID. Once possessing “foolproof” biometric ID, such people would lay low, live their lives peaceably, and pass any ID scan -- until the day they set off their backpack nukes or released their smallpox infections upon the populace.

National ID? It won’t stop a determined enemy for a moment. But future failures of the “foolproof” national ID system will be the justification for the implanted subcutaneous chip and perpetual satellite tracking -- which in turn will be compromised by criminals, terrorists, and rogue governments.

Violence will actually increase. One day, Americans will wake up to discover that all their freedoms have been destroyed in the name of “saving freedom.” They’re going to be furious.

But by then national ID and all its noxious consequences will be firmly entrenched. No pragmatic Congress is going to repeal them. No chronically insecure security agency is going to give up its newfound centralized control. No giant corporation is going to say, “Oh, we’ll gladly dismantle our multi-billion-dollar money-making surveillance systems.”

After all, if we haven’t gotten rid of our National Tea Tasting Board 30 years after Richard Nixon singled it out as a prime example of stupid waste, who’s going to get rid of anything as “useful” to bureaucrats, enforcers, statisticians, and social managers as national ID -- even if it’s completely ineffective in making us safe?

Eventually, frustrated, fed-up, angry Americans will strike back -- violently and with the fury of people who have nothing left to lose. And they, too, can do that while bearing their nationalized identities -- real or fake -- when they are serious and desperate enough.

Why it’s going to be so hard to draw the line

How do we stop this? There are too few influential people listening and too many actively on the other side.

In all probability, the ID system will be imposed gradually -- either one state at a time under quiet federal mandate, or nationally but “voluntarily.”

That way, Congresspeople can more easily say, “National ID? Don’t be silly; we don’t have national ID! We’re just ’enhancing identity protection’ to make America safe.”

And millions of Americans will simply yawn and change the channel.

There’s a broad, indefinite line that separates a free nation from a police state. On one side of that line, the people control the government. On the other, the government controls the people. We’ve been veering toward that line and into it for decades now. But with national ID we’ll have crossed it decisively.

So what do you do about it?

Freedom lovers labor under a handicap. We are almost unfailingly burdened with a sense of civic responsibility that -- given the ruthlessness and machinations of our opponents -- is laughable. We practice the methods of American Government 101 -- polite letters to uncaring congresspeople, labors wasted on the campaigns of craven oath breakers -- while they vote at midnight for bills they haven’t read and trade our freedom for the momentary pleasure and power of the deal. Faceless bureaucrats write the laws, implement, interpret, and enforce them while elected officials posture, preen, and pretend to be the representatives they long ago ceased to be.

Believing we can politely influence such power seekers is rather like believing we can reason with men who fly airplanes into buildings.

But what’s the alternative?

Certainly, we must educate ourselves and anyone else who will listen that national ID is a problem, and potentially the most dangerous one Americans will ever face. We need numbers, informed brains, and determined spirits.

We must still try to tell our soi dissant leaders that we forbid national ID. The way to do this is not to beg them or our freedom, but to warn them of the consequences of stealing our freedom. To whatever extent we communicate with our alleged representatives (and it’s best to do this in public forums and in the media, where others who care might hear), we should make it absolutely clear that this is a line-in-the-sand issue -- that we won’t tolerate the standard political trickery or typical dodges (“Oh, goodness, I had no idea that was hidden in that must-pass appropriations bill.”) First, we must warn them that any vote for national ID is a vote that could get them thrown out of office, regardless of anything else in their record. (Then we have to back that, which is the hard part.) We must make it clear -- in a responsible way -- that rebellion and resistance will follow if national ID is imposed. Don’t make specific threats to commit illegal activity and don’t recommend specific illegal activities to others unless you’re willing to bear the legal consequences; focus in the abstract on American‘s historic refusal to accept tyranny.

Prepare to resist -- and prepare for the consequences of resistance. It will be the job of truly patriotic -- not just flag-waving patriotic -- Americans to break any national ID system thrust upon us.

If national ID and tracking is imposed, people who value freedom will need to ensure that the databases are full of such garbage that the system can’t function usefully and that the scanners are constantly non-operative. The more flamboyant among us will need to stage public confrontations (anything from sit-down strikes to surround the scanners, to wearing of Groucho glasses and chemical defacing of fingerprints, to playful acts of public-protest theater, as many groups now perform in front of streetside facial-recognition cameras).

Ultimately, millions will need to refuse to accept the card -- even if it means loss of jobs, travel restrictions, jail, or worse. Right now, few have that will. If enough understand the long-term consequences of national ID, we might -- it’s our only hope -- develop the courage that comes from understanding.

It isn’t nice. It isn’t safe. But if you want to see something really ugly and really dangerous -- stand by and give the federal government the means to control your daily life.

And have a nice 1984.

[1] Ellison, Larry. “Smart Cards: Digital IDs Can Help Prevent Terrorism.” WSJ.com Opinion Journal, Oct 18, 2001. (Originally appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Octr 8, 2001) Found at www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=95001336.

[2] See Pipes, Daniel. “Mistakes Made the Catastrophe Possible.” Wall Street Journal, Sept 12, 2001. Found at www.interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB1000270817760286077.htm. And Gerecht, Reuel Marc. “The Counterterrorist Myth.” The Atlantic, Jul/Aug 2001. Found at www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/07/gerecht.htm. </font size>


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To: GovernmentShrinker
" But where the individual in question is always face to face with the person requiring them to put their iris/palm/skin cell on the screening device, it's pretty difficult to fake being someone else. "

Again, experience says not.

"Your biometric database record would NOT be your identity -- it would only establish whether you are a citizen or non-citizen. "

I don't think you understand your own statement. If you are not a citizen then your identity doesn't matter. You don't matter if you are not a citizen so who cares who you are. Not a citizen? No vote, no credit, not driver's license, etc.

"That's why there needs to be a system of back-up databases at the state level."

You obviously understand little about databases and government corruption.

61 posted on 01/01/2002 6:42:44 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"Which you can re-establish fairly easily, so why would they bother? "

Really? Based on what? Do you not understand what a corrupt and non-effective government we already have?

"I don't see how the existence of biometrics-only citizenship database would expand this ability. "

Simple. We don't trust much these days. Tell everyone what a secure and foolproof system biometrics is and the will give additional credence to the system making it harder to justify yourself.

Now, what would your biodb give that we don't have already that wouldn't be a pain in the ass and cause us all a loss of additional control over our identities to the federal government?

62 posted on 01/01/2002 6:46:35 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I'll make my point perfectly clear.

We have 27,000+ federal, state, and local guns laws on the books. The liberals want us to create thousands more because the first 27,000 don't seem to work. We don't enforce them, that is why they don't work, and they are enforceable.

For illegal immigration, we already have thousands of laws on the books. We don’t enforce a single one of those, either, and they are also enforceable.

So, why are you backing the establishment of an entirely new system within the government, which will be comprised of thousands of additional new laws, when we are not even enforcing the enforceable laws that we already have on the books?

63 posted on 01/01/2002 6:50:26 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Jhoffa_
"Actually, I think Term Limits would clean things up in a "hurry""

I'll second that. Let's clean up quickly: One term per person per lifetime. Buddists, one term per existence.

64 posted on 01/01/2002 6:52:53 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: asacha
"I do not worry much about abuse of a national id system with Bush and Ashcroft in charge."

After their support for the PATRIOTS Act, I no longer feel that way.

65 posted on 01/01/2002 6:55:12 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Jhoffa_
I hate to tap you on the shoulder here but my line in the sand is back here behind you, vote fraud was my line in the sand, I found myself at a rally not really caring so much for the candidate as I did for the outrage of flagrant Democrat vote theft and the galling slap in the face to the armed forces.
66 posted on 01/01/2002 7:12:42 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: PatrioticAmerican
I'll trip. you on the Term Limits. It is easy and it will work. Surprising...how simple life can be.
67 posted on 01/01/2002 7:27:11 PM PST by meanspirit77
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To: Jhoffa_
Whats your social security number?
68 posted on 01/01/2002 11:35:01 PM PST by weikel
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To: PatrioticAmerican
If you are not a citizen then your identity doesn't matter. You don't matter if you are not a citizen so who cares who you are. Not a citizen? No vote, no credit, not driver's license, etc.

What country are you living in?!?! First of all, there is no connection between citizenship status and credit or driver's licenses -- not legally, and not in practice. As for voting, I hate to break it to you, but as it stands now, plenty of non-citizens are voting. How easy is this? So easy that a non-citizen can end up registered to vote without even trying, thanks to "moter-voter" and various other schemes to make it easier for apathetic and non-functional people to register to vote. Last year, a foreign student at my alma mater (in Pennsylvania) was startled to receive a voter registration card in her school mail box. Since she wasn't interested in casting a fraudulent vote she looked into how this could have happened. Turned out that some of the folks handing out driver's licenses are so eager to get everyone registered to vote that they register even people who decline the registration option. And needless to say, no one anywhere along the line cared to inquire or verify whether this young lady -- or anybody else they were registering -- was a citizen.

Thanks for pointing out another positive aspect of my scheme. Although undoubtedly a few legitimate citizens would run into database glitches preventing them them from voting in one election, this would be more than compensated for by tripping up all the illegal non-citizen voters who currently dilute the votes of citizens.

69 posted on 01/03/2002 3:21:41 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Listen, you are missing the point entirely. A National ID system would change EVERYTHING. It just wouldn' be another card in your wallet. It would be required at every point of purchase, license, etc.

Having been raised a military brat and having served, I can tell you exactly what a National ID means. When you are required to carry it, then you will be required to present it. On military bases you present it to enter the base, buy gas, buy at the exchange, buy at the commissary, goto the bowling alley, etc.

We don't have a national ID system in place and not everyone is required to have a driver's license, so we don't operate with a national ID mentality. Give everyone an ID and make having it a requirement, and things WILL change.

70 posted on 01/03/2002 5:05:02 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: PatrioticAmerican
I do get it, and there's nothing to prevent state and federal laws limiting the circumstances under which proof of citizenship can be required, though I doubt they'd be needed. Most merchants would have no interest in checking customers' citizenship (remember, NO personal identifying information would be in the database) -- it would be time-consuming and annoying to customers, and therefore profit-reducing; they wouldn't do it voluntarily and politicians who tried to make it mandatory would see campaign contributions and votes dry up fast. A few types of businesses, such as bulk ammonium nitrate sellers, aviation schools, airlines etc. could reasonably be compelled to require it, and politicians would encounter little resistance from these businesses or their legitimate customers. It should also be required for welfare recipients and for new employees at the time of hiring; illegal aliens would be the main source of objections to that, and under this system very few of them would be able to sneak through and vote.

As for being required to carry something, with a direct biometric system, you'd be hard-pressed not to, and that's important, because it is absolutely unacceptable to require people to carry some ID card around (it would mysteriously vanish whenever some crooked cop or fed felt like arresting you). I fully recognize that sufficiently reliable technology to implement such a system probably doesn't exist yet. But I expect it will before too long, and than I would advocate a system like this. I do not care to have half the population of Mexico and various other 3rd world countries come here and destroy our economy and political system and drive our taxes through the roof, or to have foreign terrorists roaming around at will, working at jobs they aren't entitled to and spending the proceeds on equipment and specialized training to commit various types of terrorist assaults.

Without a means to efficiently and reliably determine citizenship, we might as well abandon the concept altogether and just treat anyone who is physically here as a citizen. That's exactly what the one-world-government crowd wants, and I'm not with them.

71 posted on 01/03/2002 5:34:28 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
" there's nothing to prevent state and federal laws limiting the circumstances under which proof of citizenship can be required,"

True, but, can you state a single item of government that has ever gotten smaller without having been replaced by something bigger?

”Most merchants would have no interest in checking customers' citizenship “

Biometric analysis has gotten to be a commodity item. It can be installed anywhere, and considering most people are on-line, it could easily be a purchasing requirement. Besides, the IRS would LOVE such a system.

”Without a means to efficiently and reliably determine citizenship, we might as well abandon the concept altogether and just treat anyone who is physically here as a citizen. That's exactly what the one-world-government crowd wants, and I'm not with them. ”

I understand your concerns and share them. We are on the same page as far as knowing a need, but I just think from past experience what a nasty program a national ID would be. We cannot allow our federal government to control identity information as one way or another they will abuse the privilege to our detriment.

It really isn’t all that hard to spot a foreigner. We just don’t do anything about one when they are identified. We also shouldn’t care too much about the few foreigners who assimilate into our society undetected. Those are the very immigrants we want here. They are usually the ones who pull their own weight, understand our culture, and desire greatly to be Americans.

Remember, if we can prevent 95% of illegal immigration with little effort then we have done a great job. We can do that with the laws and techniques in place now, we just need to enforce the laws.

Imagine a merchant like a Burger King being fined $5,000 for each illegal found on the payroll? Imagine a $100,000 tab that was enforced? Imagine the owner and the managers going to jail for one year for each illegal? Imagine paying that fine or losing your business? The illegals would have no place to work. Such laws are on the books already.

Another point. I truly believe that there are border farms that use illegals because making them legal is a pain. I fully support those border farms having day workers who return home every day or after each season. We need to secure the program and ensure compliance.

72 posted on 01/03/2002 6:02:32 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: GovernmentShrinker
P.S. The datbase would have to be seeded with current citizens. How could you accomplish that without the fraud that is already present?
73 posted on 01/03/2002 6:06:26 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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