Lawsuit against anti gun groups

myself | 1/4/02 | myself

[BCR #226]

Hi all,

I am looking for volunteers for a nationwide series of lawsuits against anti gun organizations. The goal is to file defamation lawsuits, civil rights violation suits, among other legal action.

I am looking for state and regional coordinators as well as people who are willing to file and persue the lawsuits. Anyone with a legal background is also needed to assist in the endeavor.

If you feel that you can help please contact me at michaels226@hotmail.com for more information.

This is turning into a huge undertaking and with the response I have received so far, bear with me if I don't respond immediately to your email. I will get in touch with you as soon as I can.

Thank you,

Mike

[weikel]

Good luck liberalism must be crushed.

[Travis McGee]

Bang!

[abandon]

Interesting. Do you have a theory on how these groups have defamed individuals?

[BCR #226]

All the specifics are being worked on in private and will not be discussed openly for reasons of security. We do have grounds in that arena though.

Mike

[glc1173@aol.com]

Don't sue the antigun lobby(ists) for violating our civil rights; sue them for anything!

Remember, these people have a lot higher net worth to lose than we do.
Remember what Janis Joplin said: nobody is freer than those with nothing (or, in our case, comparatively little) to lose. The antigun nuts will get tired of frivolous civil suits real fast if hordes of little-assets-to-lose gun-rights activists sue them.

Example: a New York Common Cause leader just got fined for failing to file lobbyist-registration statements on time. Has Sarah Brady? Tom Diaz (Violence Policy Center co-leader who frequently appears before congresscritters after writing VPC's position papers as its "senior policy analyst)?

Are the IRS Form 990s (required of tax-exempt outfits) of these outfits true? (If you believe them, VPC only has two employees making over $50,000. Plausible at D.C. housing (=labor) prices?)

Slander and libel suits by pro-gun politicians are always a possibility, too!

Just thoughts by someone who actually passed the bar the first time...

Scandals of antigun politicians, activists, and lawyers!

[Blood of Tyrants]

I would certainly be interested in filing a lawsuit. I am not a lawyer and assume that you are also looking for a progun lawyers in the various states to represent the various people.

I guess what we need is to form a non-profit organization like the ACLJ and other conservative organizations. (would this be wise since the liberals have proven that they are not above using the power of the IRS to harass people and organizations that oppose them, but then when has the tax status stopped them?)

[Blood of Tyrants]

Defamation doesn't even have to be in the equation. You can sue them for attempting to deny you your constitutional rights. You can also sue the city, state, and federal government for denying your your right to keep and bear arms. You can sue for damages brought on by the artifically high prices of machine guns that THEY caused. You can sue for damages caused by increases in prices of guns because of unconstitutional paperwork and regulation and frivilous lawsuits.

[Austin Willard Wright]

There is some potential to make this a race-based civil rights law suit. One can argue that gun control laws, which are especially severe in urban areas, disproportionately harm law-abiding blacks and other minorities. Normally, I don't like this approach but.....I might make an exception in this case.

[boris]

I have floated this idea from time to time. The problem appears to be finding pro-Second-Amendment lawyers to work pro bono.

I'd sign up as a member of the "class" in a class-action suit in a heartbeat.

--Boris

[Myrddin]

Track down people who were forced to wait for access to a firearm because of the Brady law. Any of them who suffered injury because they denied the means to defend themselves when needed will have ample cause against the "Brady bunch". Sadly, many of the potential litigants in this class are already dead at the hands of a criminal.

Consider pursuing these suits directly against the high profile members of the groups as individuals. Drain their individual pockets. If you sue the "corporate" entities for which they are spokesmen, you are jousting at windmills. Sarah Brady, Josh Sugarmann, Luis Tolley and Tom Mauser are names that immediate come to mind. The press is always giving them "face time" in the anti-gun crusade.

A few hundred lawsuits asking damages in the range of $50,000 each would have a very draining effect in both judgements and legal fees. This is exactly the problem faced by the gun manufacturers. The legal fees from hundreds of suits is killing them...whether they prevail in court or not.

[Destructor]

I am going to make contact at the e-mail address listed above, and inquire about making a contribution to support the effort. I encourage my fellow FReepers to do the same!

[lowbridge]

bump

[Virginia-American]

There is some potential to make this a race-based civil rights law suit.

Seems to me the Civil rights Div. of the DOJ should sue the cities and states that are denying Second Amendment protections to their citizens. Historically, so-called gun control is really minority control (first laws were enacted by, guess who, the Jackass and Klan Party during and after Reconstruction as part of Jim Crow, NY's Sullivan law was aimed at immigrants).

Close the gun gap! (black households lag behind white in gun ownership)

[Deathmonger]

Hey that's a great idea!

We could also do away with elections--candidates would just hire lawyers to do gladitorial battle in court to see who should hold office.

Legislation could be made moot--instead of new bills lawyers would just submit new cases.

If somebody holds an opinion you don't like, you sue them under various frivolous pretenses.

And we can keep taking money from each other until the lawyers have all of it!

Everybody complains about the over-litigiousness of this country but when some opportunity to hurt the other side and/or make a buck comes along you are all gung-ho for it. Is that really how we want political issues to be decided?

[southern bale]

ping

[MissAmericanPie]

This is too good, pinch me.

[Don Myers]

"Is that really how we want political issues to be decided?"

It is called fighting fire with fire. Of course, we could just roll over and play dead. Is that what you propose? Because, the courts are used to effect what the vote cannot.That is how the left plays the game, and they are winning.

[glc1173@aol.com]

"Is that really how we want political issues to be decided?"

We have to be just as ruthless as the enemy - and "enemy" is how the other side sees every gun owner!

If we don't fight as ruthlessly as they do in the political arena - including the courts - we have only two choices. One is surrender.

[PhilipNolan95126]

I am a CA lawyer on inactive status (after 25 years of practice I got tired of all the nonsense), so I am limited in what I can do, but I would be glad to help out doing research or whatever.