If you uncover something, it is false.
Posted on 01/09/2002 8:01:20 PM PST by Dengar01
Hey all, Dengar01 here again with another college story. I have a paper to write and need some serious FReeper help.
In my Religion in the US course I have to write a paper concerning black radicals and religion. Basically I had to read an article by a black radical concerning Christianity which, the black radical referred to whites as "white racists". The black radical tried to say that all blacks should believe that Jesus Christ was black otherwise, Christianity is irrelevant, since Christianity and whites are opressors in the opinion of the twisted black radical. The paper is to be written as a response to the article, and I have plenty of things to say about this black radical and her ridiculous ideas.
The author is Kelly Brown Douglas of Howard University (never heard of it). I need information on white slaves such as the Hebrews, Irish and the Scots, to prove that the slaves held in America were not the only slaves to be bonded in world history. I was not surprised by the assignment assigned to me, to tell you the truth I am excited since I get to discuss or debate the article in front of the class and prove that these black radicals are the biggest racists of all. Since they only consider racists to be white.
I am a history major primarily focused on US history so I know that a slim minority of whites in the south owned slaves and that the black radicals love to focus on the issue even though it is nearly 150 years old. I'm just asking for the help of some of you scholarly FReepers out there to aid in my quest to shoot down the liberals in my college. I guess you can add this thread into another addition of Dengar01 stuck in Liberal Land.
Thanks,
Dengar01
A history professor wrote to me recently about one of his students who asked: "Where did slavery come from?" "The real question," he replied, "is, Where did freedom come from?"
Slavery is thousands of years older than freedom. It is so old that no one knows when or how it began. It existed among people of every color on every inhabited continent. The very word "slave" in a number of languages derives from the word for Slavs, who were enslaved for centuries before the first African was brought to the Western Hemisphere. Slavery exists at this very moment in Mauritania [a country in northwestern Africa], where 30,000 Africans are kept in brutal bondage.
The only reason slavery is not still prevalent today is because Western civilization eventually turned against it and proceeded to stamp it out all over the world -- over the bitter opposition of Africans and Arabs, among others.
Such things are seldom mentioned in our schools or colleges because it would not be "politically correct." What is taught leaves the impression that slavery is something created by or for one particular race.
Freedom is even less understood. We take freedom so much for granted that there is little or no sense of what went into producing it -- or what is necessary to maintain it.
Freedom does not just happen. It exists today in a relative handful of nations, and it has existed in that handful only in recent centuries.
San Jose [California] Mercury News for 27 March.
The majority of whites were probably hurt by slavery; it's hard to make a living when you must feed your family from what you earn by competing with slave labor.
I'll guess slavery came with the advent of agriculture.
As probably did war.
I also suggest that if you "have never heard of" Howard University---look it up. Howard University is well known.
I also can't imagine any student of mine using my nationality or perceived ethnicity as support for their paper. That would be a great waste of their time.
Finally, perhaps if you explore professional journals you will actually learn how to write a themed paper. Many Freepers are extremely learned, but I find that the most learned Freepers instruct as to "how to fish" rather than just "feeding people fish".
Regards, lurkysis
Slavery was at one time common all across the continent of Europe and, as late as 1776, Adam Smith wrote that slavery still existed in Russia, Poland, Hungary, and in parts of Germany -- indeed, that Western Europe was the only region of the world where slavery had been "abolished altogether." In the sixteenth century, peace terms imposed by the Ottoman Turks required the defeated Hungarians to send them 10 percent of their population each decade as slaves. It was common for the Ottomans to requisition a certain number of boys from among conquered European populations, these boys, to be taken into the service of the imperial government. In the eighteenth century, immigrant German farm communities on the lower Volga were raided by Mongol tribesmen and the captured Germans taken off to be sold in the slave markets of Asia. In the 1820s, 6,000 Greeks were sent to Egypt as slaves and, half a century later, a report to the British Parliament noted that both white and black slaves were still being traded in Egypt and Turkey, years after blacks had been emancipated in the United States.
Slavery was likewise common in Asia. The Manchus raided China, Korea, and Mongolia for slaves. Raiders from the Sulu Archipelago, in what is now the Philippines, conducted large-scale expeditions to capture people as slaves across wide reaches of Southeast Asia. Slavery of various kinds was also common in India, where the original thugs often murdered parents in order to get their children and sell them into bondage. Organized slave markets and international shipments of slaves were also common in Asia. Slaves from India were shipped to Java and Indonesian slaves were shipped as far away as South Africa. Despite its reputation as an island paradise, Bali lost many thousands of its people as slaves, most being shipped off to other parts of Southeast Asia. Smaller or less advanced groups were set upon by marauders in many parts of Asia, as they were in other parts of the world -- hill tribes, nomadic peoples, bands of hunters and gatherers, or primitive slash-and-burn agriculturalists being set upon by those who had reached more advanced stages of development and who had more advanced weapons. This pattern was common for centuries in Cambodia, Malaya, the Philippines, Burma, or the islands of Indonesia or New Guinea.
Excerpted from chapter 7 of Thomas Sowell's Race and Culture: A World View (New York: Basic Books, 1994), 186-222.
The Forgotten Cause of the Civil War A New Look at the Slavery Issue
Lawrence R. Tenzer
Scholars' Publishing House 1997
A book review by Danny Yee - http://dannyreviews.com/ - Copyright © 1998
One of the things that has always puzzled me about the history of the United States is how a civil war could be fought and won to end slavery, but full civil rights not be granted to blacks until a century later. Tenzer's The Forgotten Cause of the Civil War suggests that one of the major contributions to tension between North and South - and hence one of the causes of the civil war - was white slavery, or the perception of slavery by Northerners as a personal threat.
Tenzer begins with the legal definition of slavery and of terms such as White, Black, and mulatto (which often differed from the social definitions). The partus sequitur ventrem rule made the offspring of a slave mother slaves, regardless of their colour. (No slave could be White, of course, so white slaves were classified as mulattos.)
Chapter two looks at the consequence of this rule, the presence of white slaves in the South. Tenzer makes no attempt to provide quantitative figures here, stressing instead the accessibility of accounts of white slaves in the North (notably advertisements for runaway slaves who could "pass" as white). However many of them there actually were, the idea of slaves indistinguishable from free whites was widespread in the North.
Chapter three looks at Southern racial theory, in particular the fabrication of figures for insanity in the 1840 census and Dr Nott's idea that mulattos were unhealthier and shorter lived than black slaves. This leads to a chapter on the illicit slave trade, which Tenzer argues is the explanation for census results showing an apparently higher "fecundity" for black slaves than for free blacks and mulattos. His argument for an extensive illicit slave trade (continued in an appendix) is indirect but persuasive.
The 1850 Fugitive Slave law allowed runaway slaves to be reclaimed without due process, creating the possibility that free whites could be seized accidentally, or even kidnapped. This was perceived as an attack on freedoms inside the North and many states passed personal liberty laws in response. The political power of the South and events such as the destruction of the Missouri Compromise and the Dred Scott decision also raised fears of slavery being extended into the territories and Northern states. Mixed with ideas that "capital should own labor" and that slavery was right, regardless of colour, this produced an explosive atmosphere. However seriously leaders in the South may have contemplated the nationalisation of slavery or the possibility of enslaving free white laborers in the North, there was enough evidence for this to make it a major theme in anti-slavery campaigns and Republican political propaganda.
Detailed references and some of the argument are left to the endnotes, and The Forgotten Cause of the Civil War is accessible to the non-specialist - despite having only a slender background knowledge of the period I had no trouble following it. I found Tenzer's thesis convincing: it resolved my perplexity about a war being fought to end slavery without blacks being granted civil rights. In any event, The Forgotten Cause of the Civil War, with its extensive quotations from newspapers and other texts of the period, both Southern and Northern, paints a vivid picture of attitudes to slavery in the decades before the Civil War.
26 January 1998
The Muslim Middle East took about 18 million Africans into slavery. North America took four million.
A good source like Thomas Sowell's Conquests and Cultures would help here.
If you uncover something, it is false.
I always know I can rely on FReepers especially when the liberals are trying to shove their opinions and false claims down college students throats.
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