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Dying to Kill - Suicide Versus Democracy
National Review ^
| 1/18/03
| Victor Davis Hanson
Posted on 01/18/2002 5:48:47 AM PST by veronica
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posted on
01/18/2002 5:48:47 AM PST
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veronica
To: dennisw, vrwc54, onyx, sabertooth, johnhuang2, long cut, cachelot, optimist, alouette
FYI.
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01/18/2002 5:56:38 AM PST
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veronica
To: veronica
VDH bump.
To: hockey pop, pad 34, benf, nachum, lent, sabramerican, thinkin' gal, miss american pie, college repub
Bump.
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01/18/2002 5:58:31 AM PST
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veronica
To: veronica
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An undated hand out picture distributed January 18, 2002 from Fatah shows Palestinian Fatah gunman Abdussalam Hassonah in the West Bank city of Nablus. The al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed group linked to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction, said it carried out an attack in Hadera on Thursday which left six dead, to avenge the killing on Monday of one of its leaders. The attacker was identified as Hassonah from a village near Nablus. REUTERS/Abed Omar Qusini QUALITY FROM SOURCE |
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Former Palestinian Authority policeman Abed Hassouna, a member of the Al Aqsa Brigades is seen in an undated studio photograph released by the AL Aqsa Martyrs Brigade in the West Bank town of Nablus, Friday Jan. 18, 2002. Hassouna entered a banquet hall in Hadera Thursday night and opened fire with an assault rifle, killing six people and injuring 30. (AP Photo/HO/ AL Aqsa Martyrs Brigade) |
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An unidentified mourner weeps during the funeral of Avi Yazdi in the northern Israeli town of Or Akiva, Friday, Jan. 18, 2002. Yazdi, 24, a security guard at a banquet hall, was killed Thursday night when a Palestinian gunman opened fire on a group of revelers during a bat-mitzvah, a Jewish coming-of-age celebration, in the northern Israeli town of Hadera, killing six and injuring 30. (AP Photo/Eitan Hess-Ashkenazi) |
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posted on
01/18/2002 6:03:00 AM PST
by
dennisw
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To: veronica
Excellent post! Excellent.
Try to ignore the bold typed LIES that mar this thread.
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posted on
01/18/2002 6:13:57 AM PST
by
onyx
To: tex-oma
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posted on
01/18/2002 6:14:25 AM PST
by
veronica
To: veronica
There is a certain way to halt their stupidity but it is too cruel for the modern world to use as yet. The terrorist mindset is weird and can be used against them by annihilation of their home front, wives, children, mothers, fathers. They have no problem killing yours, but when their's are wiped out they halt their nonsense.
It will take alot more attacks like 9-11 but eventually the world may get to the point they will view collateral damage as a neccessary tool of war, in this particular war anyway.
To: tex-oma
The US has joined the Israeli media chorus in demanding that Arafat do more to stop the suicide bombings.....And sliming AMERICA too. Even more typical...
An American died at the Bat Mitzvah yesterday BTW.
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01/18/2002 6:16:41 AM PST
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veronica
To: tex-oma
Are Palestinians Human?NO. Humans have souls.
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01/18/2002 6:16:57 AM PST
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onyx
From - President Bush Speaks to United Nations Remarks by the President To United Nations General Assembly"...THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Mr. Secretary General, Mr. President, distinguished delegates, and ladies and gentlemen. We meet in a hall devoted to peace, in a city scarred by violence, in a nation awakened to danger, in a world uniting for a long struggle. Every civilized nation here today is resolved to keep the most basic commitment of civilization: We will defend ourselves and our future against terror and lawless violence.
A few miles from here, many thousands still lie in a tomb of rubble. Tomorrow, the Secretary General, the President of the General Assembly, and I will visit that site, where the names of every nation and region that lost citizens will be read aloud. If we were to read the names of every person who died, it would take more than three hours.
The terrorists call their cause holy, yet, they fund it with drug dealing; they encourage murder and suicide in the name of a great faith that forbids both. They dare to ask God's blessing as they set out to kill innocent men, women and children. But the God of Isaac and Ishmael would never answer such a prayer. And a murderer is not a martyr; he is just a murderer.
Yet, there is no such thing as a good terrorist. No national aspiration, no remembered wrong can ever justify the deliberate murder of the innocent. Any government that rejects this principle, trying to pick and choose its terrorist friends, will know the consequences.'
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01/18/2002 6:30:34 AM PST
by
veronica
To: tex-oma
What nonsense. If the Pallies had all of the West Bank/Gaza tomorrow they still would be the same crazies who want to destroy Israel. Any mental problems they have comes from Islam and their own demon like behavior. Demons who kill Jewish woman and children. Demons who do suicide bombing.
These cowards don't have the stones to outright attack the IDF although they do snipe at the IDF and FAIL.
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01/18/2002 6:47:39 AM PST
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dennisw
Comment #14 Removed by Moderator
To: tex-oma
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01/18/2002 6:52:06 AM PST
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veronica
To: tex-oma
I'll keep posting CONSERVATIVES and President Bush. You keep posting rah-rah from the Marxist Islam Firsters.
LOL.
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posted on
01/18/2002 6:53:26 AM PST
by
veronica
To: veronica
"Nobody ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
-- General George S. Patton
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posted on
01/18/2002 6:55:16 AM PST
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Snake65
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01/18/2002 6:59:47 AM PST
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veronica
To: veronica
"No national aspiration, no remembered wrong can ever justify the deliberate murder of the innocent."
True. But if I support evil policies and vote for people to implement these policies, am I an innocent?
Perhaps I ought to claim sovereign immunity. :)
A mafia don is not innocent simply because he did not personally pull the trigger on his enforcer's gun. He's guilty of at least conspiracy to murder.
I will grant however that this guilt is almost completely an American oddity. American conspiracy law is quite strict.
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posted on
01/18/2002 7:09:16 AM PST
by
Tauzero
To: tex-oma
So, the Palestinian suicide bomber is only trying to quell their inner pain and turmoil when they blow up Jewish shopping centers and bat mitzvahs. Oh, if only someone could have reached out and given Ahmed a hug in time....
RUBBISH!
Their suicides are no different than the Heaven's Gate cult, except that they seek to take out their enemy in the process. A bunch of young minds are fed a lot of hate and garbage growing up, told that this is their destiny and something far better awaits them on the other side. These ignorant fools are then given a gun or a bomb and told to go please Allah.
Mohammed Atta's letter says far more about the suicide terrorist's mindset than trying to equate it with the clinically depressed. I sense your two authors came up with this hokey idea in order to soothe their own associated guilt for these horific deeds.
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