Second Video of Flight 587 Casts Doubt on Crash Probe

NewsMax.com ^ | Jan. 27, 2002 | Carl Limbacher

[oldvike]

Damn, it's starting to look like maybe the "tin foil hat" crowd might not be too far off the mark on this one. Interesting.

[Jethro Tull]

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Carl:

Can you get Bob Grant or Frank from Queens to interview the police Lt and the NYC fireman mentioned in this article?

[Always A Marine]

Have no doubt of this: Had there been only one plane involved on 9/11, the federal government would have concocted an elaborate account of the pilot's deep depression. Desperate to prevent panic and to protect us from our unenlightened selves, Washington will cover up anything it cannot possibly explain away. I'll settle for the truth, thank you very much...

[r9etb]

Damn, it's starting to look like maybe the "tin foil hat" crowd might not be too far off the mark on this one. Interesting.

The only possible way they could be right is if the tape showed an explosion. That seems doubtful: Nov. 12, the day of the crash, was a cloudless day in New York, a fact that makes that "puff of white smoke" particularly problematic for investigators who have bent over backwards to ignore the accounts of dozens of eyewitnesses who say they saw a midair explosion and fire before the plane broke apart.

There's a pretty vast difference between a "puff of white smoke", and "midair explosion and fire," Mr. Lamebacker's efforts notwithstanding.

So if this is all NewsMax -- itself a tinfoil-leaning group -- can say, then the tinfoilers are as wrong as they usually are. Note that none of the details add up to anything that a loss of the vertical stabilizer cannot explain.

[MsLady]

Still think this might have been a shoe bomber. That was my first thought after that Reid guy tried it. It surely couldn't be the first attempt to do something like that.

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

The NTSB is nothing but a worthless cover-up agency. I would never work for them.

In the hours and days after the crash of flight 587, the NTSB was floating every crackpot theory it could in an effort to disprove theories of terrorism. Their efforts had quite the opposite effect. It tends to kill an organization's credibility when they scream, "It wasn't terrorism, it wasn't terrorism...!" while the crash site is still burning and no data collection has even been done yet, then float every crackpot theory under the sun to "prove" it. What ever happened to the days of the NTSB not commenting on an on-going investigation? I find their actions highly questionable.

[MsLady]

Perhaps it didn't need to be a big fireball explosion to bring it down. It could have been a shoe bomb that exploded cracking the hull of the plane. I would think that would be enough to bring it down.

[MsLady]

Perhaps it didn't need to be a big fireball explosion to bring it down. It could have been a shoe bomb that exploded cracking the hull of the plane. I would think that would be enough to bring it down.

[MsLady]

I hate when that happens!!!

[twyn1]

But if it was a "bomber" (shoe or otherwise) wouldn't someone (or some group) have taken credit for it ??
I know that bin Laden rarely took credit for "operations" that he was a part of, but after 9-11 that seemed to change.
I would think there would be some sort of bragging or claim of success ??

[Sungirl]

That's what I heard on the radio ...that they thought it was a shoe bomber.

[Freeper john]

Who says that some group didn't claim responsibility, and it was hushed up? john

[katnip]

Who says that some group didn't claim responsibility, and it was hushed up?

Maybe you're onto something there. The whole thing just stinks.

[glock rocks]

what, you going to believe your own lying eyes (that is, if the film is ever released)?

i won't be convinced until the cia releases their cartoon.

where's the cartoon?

[sharktrager]

"...Mr. Lamebacker's efforts notwithstanding"

I can understand disagreeing with him, but is a personal insult necessary to make a point?

[Libertarianize the GOP]

bump

[Crowcreek]

Semtex or C-4 would have left chemical traces on the wreckage. It should be an easy matter to rule it out -- or confirm it.

[Waco]

Stall spin. PC spinning otherwise.