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Rumsfeld attacked over Cuba prisoners
The Guardian (U.K.) ^ | 02/25/2002 | Richard Norton-Taylor

Posted on 02/24/2002 7:20:32 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78
"This is very important, because if they are being recognised as prisoners of war they should be released immediately, as hostilities have now ceased."

What? The game is over, so put the checker board away?
I don't think this person knows what this war is.
When it slows down to a dull roar, we just don't tell the guys "Good war, thanks for playing. You can go now"
Geeeez !! Shouldn't the Muslim terrorists surrender first or something?

21 posted on 02/24/2002 8:34:56 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Pokey78
The US should slit their throats and be done with them.
22 posted on 02/24/2002 8:38:35 PM PST by Registered
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To: Wanker
No, actually Danny Pearl's murderers, and most of the people in Gitmo, believe that it isn't a serious crime to murder a Jew, or a Christian.

The people that started this whole thing believe that you can punish people for the crimes of others, so do the prisoners at Gitmo.

Terrorists believe that you can punish people for the crimes of others, as long as they're Jews or Christians.

It's a bitch to be treated as you treat others, isn't it?

23 posted on 02/24/2002 8:39:55 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Wanker
LOL, nice screen name fits you perfectly:)
25 posted on 02/24/2002 8:59:43 PM PST by monday
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To: Wanker
do you believe that people should be punished for the crimes of others?

You are correct in that they have nothing to do with Pearl. However, they are terrorist criminals, arrested in a zone under military control. They are not American citizens, they are not in the United States, and therefore they have no rights under the U.S. Constitution. They are subject to military, not civil, jurisdiction.

The detainees were followers and associates of known criminals, bin Laden et al, who had previously conspired to murder Americans, and had done so at Khobar Towers and elsewhere. Their leaders spoke openly of their plans to attack innocent civilians in the United States. These plans were disseminated throughout the criminal organizations, through personal meetings, video and audio tapes, and the media - And there is considerable evidence that there was a uniformly high level of knowledge of these plans throughout the organization.

The detainees either took direct action resulting in the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, or aided and abetted those who did. Either way, it was done with full malice aforethought.

They are all, by virtue of their membership in this criminal conspiracy, either murderers or accessories to murder, if not before then certainly after the fact.

Those are the charges. The penalty ought to be death. These were crimes committed against Americans, and it is our right to exact our justice, in any way we deem appropriate, and I don't give a rat's ass what the leftist Euro-trash have to say about it.

27 posted on 02/24/2002 9:32:03 PM PST by LouD
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To: Aric2000
...Mr Rumsfeld replied: "Oh, sure."

Gotta love this guy.

28 posted on 02/24/2002 9:43:31 PM PST by barker
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To: Wanker
Sorry man, there comes a point when the lofty ideals of civilized people must be put aside in order to protect the continued survival of the lofty ideals of those very same civilized people.

The argument that you are making is the exact argument the terrorist need for civilized people with lofty ideals to make: that it is OK for them to butcher you, but not OK for you to butcher them in return.

I happen to like the way we live here, I like the fact that I can assume the reasonable expectation of not being butchered by some Islamic religious f#%k on my way to work on your average work day.

I like that.

I don't want to live the way Israel lives.

So when a group of people show the willingness, and the ability to do what they did to us on 9/11, we have to take them out.

I don't want to enact draconian laws, and do more damage to our already damaged civil rights. I don't want military police at the airpost, I don't want to spend more hours just trying to get on an airplane to go somewhere within my own friggin' country.

And I really don't like the fact that someone else is dictating all these policies to me via killing innocent people, our people, on our own soil.

It's like being trained to become Pavlov's Nation.

I want the things they used to be, unless WE decide to change them.

So what do you do? You go out, and make damned sure that the whole world understands three damned things:

1) You are not going to take this crap from any individual, group, or nation out there without some serious massive retaliation.

2) You are not allowing any foreign government to harbor, foster, or in any way protect people who would do these sort of thing without bringing it down.

3) You got the muscle to do whatever you want to do.

Then you go out and waste a few that needed wasting just to let everyone know that you are dead serious.

They will bitch, and moan, and not like us very much (they don't know), and they'll leave us the hell alone.

Then I we go back to having the ability to assume the reasonable expectation of not being butchered by some Islamic fanatical f#%k on our way to work on an average work week.

Works for me.

29 posted on 02/24/2002 10:17:01 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Wanker
Hey Wanker, there are several million other people on that island whose civil rights are being violated daily, been that way for over 40 years, whom you didn't mention on your defense of human rights.

Just thought I'd remind you.

30 posted on 02/24/2002 10:20:49 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Pokey78
I wonder how often they criticize Fidel for his prisoners??
31 posted on 02/24/2002 10:23:06 PM PST by GeronL
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To: concerned about politics
He just tells the truth.

LOL!

32 posted on 02/24/2002 10:26:42 PM PST by Demidog
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To: concerned about politics; Pokey78; cool guy
Shouldn't the Muslim terrorists surrender first or something?

RIGHT ON c.a.p.!! And Pokey...how in the world can you say the hostilities have ceased????? You can't believe that, can you????

I can sure tell that so many arguing for "lamb and rice", 8 hours of sleep and a rec center with masseuse for the "Guantanamites" have never been in a street fight, batlle, or war, and never studied their history or have anything resembling common-sense!

There are still Fundamentalist Muslims around the world gearing up to take down the infidels (me and you) and will do it with horrific disregard of courtesy, decency, civility, and humanity. You will not be allowed to have a prayer time before bed, eat your turkey for Thanksgiving, or have a Ham for Christmas while whistling "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen"

Here is a message for all of you who think this war is even close to over:

Take cover and go wet your pants in a corner, the real men are going to protect you whether or not you deserve it. When it is over, you can watch some documentaries on this war and learn what it took to protect your grandchildren from certain doom...you'll probably try to claim some of the credit for the victory....go ahead, just stay out of the way for now!

33 posted on 02/24/2002 10:32:01 PM PST by thunderdome
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To: Pokey78
Lawyers acting for British detainees at the US military base at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba yesterday stepped up pressure

Geesh. Can hardly stand this intense pressure. Let's release them immediately.

34 posted on 02/24/2002 10:35:06 PM PST by Faraday
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To: Pokey78
I know Pokey sid not say this....the article referenced this comment and I caught a reply to Pokey further in the conversation, spacing out here!

Good Post Pokey!

35 posted on 02/24/2002 10:40:39 PM PST by thunderdome
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To: thunderdome
When are these stupid liberals going to get it? The last time anyone actually paid attention to them was on September 10th. On September 11th the vacuouseness of their position was clearly displayed.
36 posted on 02/24/2002 11:01:28 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Then I we go back to having the ability to assume the reasonable expectation of not being butchered by some Islamic fanatical f#%k on our way to work on an average work week.

Works for me.

Well said, Luis!

37 posted on 02/25/2002 4:31:19 AM PST by LouD
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38 posted on 02/25/2002 4:36:37 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: Cincinatus
perfect!
39 posted on 02/25/2002 4:38:45 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xm177e2

"...Solicitor Louise Christian said: "This is very important, because if they are being recognised as prisoners of war they should be released immediately, as hostilities have now ceased..."




"...Hostilities have ceased...?"






BAWHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


40 posted on 02/25/2002 4:43:26 AM PST by vannrox
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