Posted on 03/10/2002 12:38:04 PM PST by Phaedrus
The friend who had e'd me followed up with news that the Chinese are creating dozens of cloned embryos in their labs. The British medical journal New Scientist has reported a Chinese team "based at Shanghai No. 2 Medical University" says it has "derived stem cells from hybrid embryos composed of human cells and rabbit eggs." The journal said scientists throughout the world fear similar research in the US and UK has been "bogged down" by "ethical concerns."
Ah, those pesky ethical concerns. They slow you up just when you could be creating in a Petri dish the recipe for Rabbit Man. And then of course you could grow him, bring him into being, for all but dunces know that what man can do he will do. And then perhaps once you've grown him you can have Rabbit Man for dinner.
Boldings are, again, mine.
It is clear that there has not yet been enough time for Earth to have come up with such a thing. Life and it's various processes, particularly it's various quantum computers, has clearly been around for tens if not hundreds of billions of years - maybe even through infinity!
"Beginning with his opposition to nuclear weapons in the 1950s, Commoner has been an outspoken, sometimes radical motivator of change on such environmental issues as energy conservation, pesticide use, waste management and control of toxic chemicals. He also founded the Center for the Biology of Natural Systems (CBNS), which has disseminated information on topics ranging from dioxin to waste recycling and the economics of renewable resources."
[Scientific American bio of Commoner]
This current article describes Commoner as the "...senior scientist at the Center for the Biology of Natural Systems..." but that's the group he started himself. I can be "senior scientist" of the MarkWar Institute if I want to be...
I think that having left wing nuts like Commoner speak out against cloning and such is a way the Establishment hopes to preempt serious opposition. Nobody in their right mind would want to stand alongside these former radicals and environmentalists etc. Setting up these scum as "opponents" of cloning and genetic engineering is a good way of making sure that your only opponents will be similar losers... (Regardless of the merits of their case...)
Mark W.
Relax. I won't muddy up your thread.
And there's a big difference between an ad hominem attack and pointing out a person's past.
In all the contexts this guy has been active -- nuclear weapons and the various environment issues -- activists have proven time and time again that they have no respect for facts. They have no respect for presenting the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth of an issue.
Why should anyone waste their time debating this or that assertion offered up as a "fact" in an article by one of these types?
The whole left wing fringe exists only by ad hominem rhetoric ("appealing to emotions: appealing to people's emotions and beliefs rather than their ability to think -- [Encarta "ad hominem"]) and not by real facts or actual reasoning.
Okay. I'll get out of your thread now. Enjoy your selves.
Mark W.
Which always begs the question: What created life and therefore DNA??
WhiteKnight
Okay. Commoner is much more intelligent than Paul Erlich.
--Boris
A very interesting article. However, I have to take exception to the authors understanding of "Reaganesque". What he describes is most definitely not Reaganesque. It is more akin to socialist, Clintonesque, Democratic central control.
That the author could so clearly fail to understand and infact distort the meaning of Reaganesque shows that his powers of reason are far from infallible. Therefore, it calls into question the substance of the entire article. His conclusions must be critiqued at all levels before forming any opinion of their truth.
'nuff said!
Isn't it amusing how 'science' is always so unscientific.
You clearly have hit the nail on the head !!
ROTFLMAO !!
Talk about damnation through faint praise :-)
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