Posted on 03/14/2002 6:56:38 AM PST by truthandlife
Edited on 04/13/2004 1:39:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
A leader of the largest Palestinian terrorist group spearheading suicide bombings and other attacks against Israel says he is following the orders of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat.
''Our group is an integral part of Fatah,'' says Maslama Thabet, 33, a leader of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. Fatah, headed by Arafat, is the largest group in the Palestinian Authority, the government of the autonomous Palestinian territories.
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Someone (I think it was dennis w or Lent, but I could be wrong) recently said that when it comes to Israel, up is down and black is white. I agree. It's in no way rational, but rather completely spiritual. Pray for President Bush. He needs it.
It is just as probable that Gore is right about Bush talking big and swinging small. He is just as likely to conclude a deal with the Saudi princes to trade Israel for oil and inspectors. I fear we have been betrayed. I hope someone in the administration still believes what they say. I think Powell has won though.
Along those same lines, is it unbelievable that the murdering, genocidal punk Arafat ever got the support of his fellow Arabs, Why would he not have the support of his fellow Arabs ?
They are cousins in every way (except the late King Hussein).
let alone the West? The same West that watched Hitler grow
Absolutely.
It's in no way rational, but rather completely spiritual.
It's as if a powerful delusion has possessed the nations.
Pray for President Bush. He needs it.
So did Clinton
Perhaps it is inevitable
Pray for the Messiah.
He needs us NOT... after all, HE is the 82 percent president. or 92 percent. He cannot be wrong.
What's wrong with you? Don't you know he has a public relations battele to win that is important, even if it trashes our allies in Israel.
How dare Israel support and defend her national sovereignty? How provincial of them? How unhelpful for them to hunt down and kill members of the same group that brought us the glories of 9-11 in their own borders? How dare they?
They need to just lay there and "take it" when their kids, babies and unarmed wives are gunned down and nail bombed in the synagogue like good little jews. GWB made an idiot's comment yesterday. Like the good little christian he CLAIMS he is, he needs to confess his error and repent. There will be no peace in the middle east REGARDLESS of his efforts, and kicking our allies while they are knee deep in the blood of their little girls and infant sons every day of the week is pretty evil if you ask me.
In Israel, they have 9-11 every day, proportional to their population. But hey, they aren't being helpful and they refuse to lie down and die without a struggle. helpful my ass.
One has to wonder what or who is in his heart.
"Try utilizing some current event knowledge, instead of dribble to make your non-sensical commentary."
Actually he has a point. I voted for Bush. I contributed to his campaign. However, it seems to me that he is violating his own ultimatum. What happened to "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists?" Does he think the Palistinians are good terrorists? If not, then why not let Israel deal with the problem. Are murdered Israeli citizens less important then murdered US citizens?
yeah yeah yeah... ridiculous, and the same books says that all are sinners and fall short of God's glory too. Does that mean that we don't have a choice, that we can or should then "continue in sin that grace may abound?" God forbid that stupid thought.
Nation's have choices. What's wrong with standing up to God and saying... HEY, WE aren't going to betray our friends and allies? You think he would not rejoice at the thought? Or you think he would insist we proceed to do the wrong thing? Because of one sentence of a general nature takenout of context by the "woe is me" crowd? I think he would instead, slap us on the shoulder and say, "Hey, I dig that about you guys, HOW CAN I HELP you do the right thing?"
We have a right to say NO to this "all nations" comment I keep hearing folks throw around.
Everybody betrays others on occasion. All nations have betrayed God's people at one time or another. It does NOT have to be the final status of every nation on the face of the earth simultaneously, for all to have betrayed Israel or the USA or Australia for that matter. NOt every nation has or will betray Israel for the simple fact of the matter that Israel has NOT always existed as a nation. All, apparently does not mean ALL in the sense of each and every in an eternal continuum. There are ALWAYS exceptions. I am shooting for being the exceptional nation.
We can CHOOSE to do the right thing. Beleive me, it does happen. And when it does, God does not get angry and say... now see here, I said all nations would do such and such evil, now you better commit that evil, or I am gonna smack you down. That is nuts!
WE have choices. We can do the right thing. Bush can turn around on this, like a u turn on sepulveda blvd. "oops, I said that wrong." is all it takes.
He NEEDS to do so. NOW. The inevitability of oncoming doom is "NOT HELPFUL." We need to stop doing the "doom is imminent" thingie.
Good question. You need to keep asking it on each and every thread where it applies. Maybe a bush researcher will see it and ask him for us.
Stay Safe !
I just love their parenting skills.
We definitely have the right to say no to the "all nations" prophecy, and I hope and pray that we as a nation continue to do so! Who said it would be fulfilled in our lifetime, or under this administration? My point is simply that it must happen sometime, and here's why.
You are correct in saying that the prophecy does not mean an eternal continuum. Seems to me it means that all nations that exist at the time of fulfillment will come against Israel. IMO, this has to happen because it is the only way that Israel will learn to return to God and rely on Him alone. He says that alot in prophecy, "and then you will know that I am the Lord..." Right now, it's so much easier to depend on the billions of dollars that she gets from the US, or the guaranteed military support she assumes she'll have if attacked by an enemy, than it is for her to lean on Jehovah. And it will happen at some point because God said it will. Not because He wants it to happen - do you think Jesus wanted Peter to betray Him three times? Of course not, but He knew Peter would, and even though Peter was horrified by the idea, he did it. We might be horrified at the idea that the US would turn on Israel, but people are imperfect people and God is God. And He alone knows the end from the beginning.
I believe in biblical prophecy largely because of Israel, her rebirth, against all odds, and her seemingly impossible survival, considering the armies that have attacked her. God said He would bring them back, and He did. He said all nations will come against Jerusalem, and I have no reason to believe that won't happen at some point. We've come pretty close in the past - didn't that seem a bit more likely under Clinton? Can you imagine the foreign policy nightmare we would be experiencing right now under Gore? And who knows if we will exist as we are today when it does happen. We may be rendered helpless somehow before that, because of our friendship with Israel; after all, there is no real definitive mention of the US. Anyway, I ramble. :) But all that said, I don't believe that doom is imminent. Bush can do the right thing, and since I trust that he may have God's ear a bit more than any other president in recent history, I still hold out that he will.
You got that right.
So did Clinton
Perhaps it is inevitable
Perhaps it is. And yes, Clinton did need prayer. It was hard, but I tried to pray for him too. But not as much as I should have.
Pray for the Messiah.
I pray that He comes soon, to set the wrongs right.
''What do you think? That we are just a bunch of gangs?''
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