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Homophobia and Pedophilia -- Joined at the Hip
Recent reports | 3/24/02 | HMV

Posted on 03/24/2002 7:10:59 PM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid

The Boy Scouts are right. There is no calling to sacred to keep gay pedophiles from their obsession. The recent revelations about Catholic priests is just another chapter in a growing body of evidence that homosexuality is not a "normal" human activity, rather it is obsessive in its victimization and recruitment of the young.

What all this means is that homophobes are justified in their fears. In fact, it is very likely that homophobia has its roots in molestation. How many young boys have had their faith in God, their trust in the scouts, their confidence in adults, shattered by a grim experience?

How many gays were coerced into the lifestyle through molestation? How many had an involuntary first sexual experience at the hands of someone they trusted? How many gays are gay only because they know no other sexual experience and fear heterosexuality?

Homophobes should feel no guilt, in fact, they should feel more vigilent, based on the most recent revelations that only add more fuel to the fire.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; pedophelia; priests; sasu
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To: Dimensio
The man's right to refuse.

Having been approached several times by homosexuals as a teenager. There was never a time when a simple "No, I'm not homosexual" stopped them from attempting to follow up...as a matter of fact only the promise of grievous bodily harm prevented an unwanted "date".

Older men may find their refusal more quickly accepted, but as the age of their target decreases, the pressure these homosexuals place on male increases.
201 posted on 03/25/2002 3:01:44 AM PST by Maelstrom
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To: Cultural Jihad
Pro-dope libertarians equate dope-smoking to eating. A simple experiment should prove whether their equivalence is well-placed. I will forego dope-smoking for, say, 60 days, if a pro-dope libertarian will forgo eating for the same period.

Heck, let's even agree to ignore the 40+ year's head-start I have on my end of the test.

Ready, steady, GO!

202 posted on 03/25/2002 4:40:19 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: ConsistentLibertarian;*Homosexual Agenda
"EdReform is the one posting information on how great anal sex is."

Your reply speaks volumes about the homosexual community and it's supporters. The facts are that supposedly "mainstream" homosexual organizations such as GLSEN and PFLAG, who tell us that their mission is simply promoting tolerance and safety in schools, are promoting pornographic materials in an ever increasing number of schools across the nation. The publisher of some of the material recommended to middle and high school-aged children is a publisher of homosexual pornography.

Wake up parents! As you've seen recently, homosexuals are the major cause of child sexual abuse in the church. They are entrenched in the church and they are entrenched in the public schools.

203 posted on 03/25/2002 4:59:23 AM PST by EdReform
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To: Khepera;erizona;FormerLib;Clint N. Suhks;grlfrnd;GrandMoM;EODGUY;1 FELLOW FREEPER;L.N. Smithee...

204 posted on 03/25/2002 5:08:10 AM PST by EdReform
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
we could sit here and pat each other on the back and not have any real discussion.

Baiting is not discussion.This is not a forum to debate the value of liberalism. Check previous posts. It is always the same MO.

205 posted on 03/25/2002 5:21:39 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
Homophobes should feel no guilt, in fact, they should feel more vigilent, based on the most recent revelations that only add more fuel to the fire

You got that right. Homosexuals feel comfortable molesting innocents to young to understand and too weak to fight back. Homosexuals who go after little same sex children are the lowest of the low. It is easy to molest a child. Much harder to molest an adult. Worse.....those perverts often tell the children they use to achieve their orgasms off of that 'the sexual encounter could NOT have happened if the child were not homosexual to begin with'. Talk about rape---it not only breaks the trust of a little child, it may impact his ability to function as a heterosexual for the rest of his life if he buys into such horrid crap. Literally, crap.

206 posted on 03/25/2002 5:28:02 AM PST by Republic
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To: Republic
Bump!
208 posted on 03/25/2002 5:54:43 AM PST by EdReform
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To: ConsistentLibertarian;Brad's Gramma; EdReform; Khepera
But gay men like gay sex. They like it as much as straight men like straight sex. It makes them happy. They suffer when they can't have any gay sex, just like straight men suffer when they can't have any straight sex.

Hehehe…How are “straight” people comparable to those who practice perversion? Since you think they are comparable then what about incest and bestiality when practiced in a committed, monogamous, consenting, age appropriate and loving private way. What they do in their own bedrooms is none-your-bidness, right? If you’re going to be a Liberaltarian you can’t pick and choose your perversion.

209 posted on 03/25/2002 8:22:23 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: EdReform
Thanks for the PING...
210 posted on 03/25/2002 9:35:07 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I'm pretty flexible -- I work with the premises people give me. In this case, someone wanted to argue that consensual homosexual sex should be regulated by the state and the premise offered was "Everyone has the inalienable right to pursue happiness." Maybe you think that's a false premise. But since the person I was responding to made a point of appealing to it explicitly, I thought it reasonable to show what follows ;-)
211 posted on 03/25/2002 10:38:34 AM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Maelstrom
"Like many behavioral disorders, the sufferer experiences a "high" when engaging in the disorder" Unfortunately that won't help us identify what counts as a behavioral disorder, unless you think straight sex is a behavioral disorder.
212 posted on 03/25/2002 10:43:32 AM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Some homosexuals with agenda's and their cohorts do indeed like to identify anything that brings a "high" in the light of equivalency, but it doesn't work like that now does it?

Nonetheless, you haven't addressed any of the very real problems with your analysis I bring to the table.
213 posted on 03/25/2002 11:11:55 AM PST by Maelstrom
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To: ConsistentLibertarian;Brad's Gramma; EdReform; Khepera; Kevin Curry
… someone wanted to argue that consensual homosexual sex should be regulated by the state and the premise offered was "Everyone has the inalienable right to pursue happiness." Maybe you think that's a false premise.

Yes because the pursuit of happiness is unspecific. If you can’t argue one perversion is better than an other, it’s a bit hypocritical to put one person’s pursuit of “happiness” in better standing than someone else’s.

But since the person I was responding to made a point of appealing to it explicitly, I thought it reasonable to show what follows ;-)

Sorry, I thought your argument should stand the test of consistency and hold for others scrutiny. If you want your debate private and confined to arbitrary parameters I’ll leave you alone.

214 posted on 03/25/2002 11:16:33 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: EdReform
Seems we are pounding the wrong end when we oppose homosexuality. They don't like head pounding. Speaking of which ... I have a headache.
215 posted on 03/25/2002 11:26:17 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Cultural Jihad
I alomst cried from laughter at your weak attempt to dissociate yourself from the logical extensions of your beliefs in 178.

So homosexual sodomy is quicker than cheesburgers so that makes the latter a lesser evil. What happened to your kindness or doesn't it apply to slower deaths.

But the most pathetic thing was your admonishion to stay on topic. The topic is that your response to this thread was fanatical, illogical, and impratcial. You seem to realize this dissonance in your position because you are trying to avoid admitting the obvious.

216 posted on 03/25/2002 11:32:17 AM PST by breakem
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To: Almondjoy
Please learm html. Then try a coherent response, even though your defense of homosexuality is naive and misinformed. The matter is neatly summed up by the poster Montag813:

The homosexual lifestyle is principally about sex, and not about "stable, loving relationships which are no different from anyone else", as we are supposed to naively accept.

Homosexuals, back in the closet.

217 posted on 03/25/2002 11:36:22 AM PST by Osinski
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To: Maelstrom
It also ignores that molestors of young girls quite often practice homosexuality regularly.

I wasn't aware of that. Where did you get that information?
218 posted on 03/25/2002 11:47:36 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: Clint N. Suhks
" your argument should stand the test of consistency" Yes. So should everybodies. That's why when someone serves up a premise from which I can derive the negation of their conclusion, they've got a problem. But just because I use their premise in a reductio on their position doesn't mean I'm endorsing it.
219 posted on 03/25/2002 12:06:47 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
That's why when someone serves up a premise from which I can derive the negation of their conclusion, they've got a problem.

Sorry, I thought that’s what I was doing.

But just because I use their premise in a reductio on their position doesn't mean I'm endorsing it.

Gee, that’s hard to tell from your posts but I’ll take you word for it. So you agree then that the pursuit of happiness clause doesn’t prohibit “consensual homosexual sex should [can] be regulated by the state?

220 posted on 03/25/2002 12:31:47 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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