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Early Report from the Pro-Israel Rally in NYC
cell phone call from RaceBannon | 4/7/02 | firebrand

Posted on 04/07/2002 10:34:34 AM PDT by firebrand

RaceBannon phoned in from the rally, which was moved to Dag Hammarskjold Park. It was just breaking up at about 12:15, although many people were still there and some of the speakers were still giving interviews. Race estimated 12,000 people.

Speakers were Congressman Engels, Senator Schumer, Andy Cuomo, Curtis Sliwa, Dove Hikind, Rabbi Golden, probably others.

By sheer coincidence, Race met up with newwahoo in the crowd.

The crowd was very polite, lots of families, psalms were sung in Hebrew, and even the booing was subdued---even when the New York Times was mentioned.

Next Sunday, the demonstration is said to be at 55th and Park at 10:30, where the PLO office is.

Yehuda, Race, and newwahoo I hope will correct any errors I've made here, or start a new thread.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Foreign Affairs; Israel; US: New York
KEYWORDS: daghammarskjold; israel; rally
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To: firebrand
The Times recently referred to the Palestinians as "freedom fighters." I

IRONIC isn't it

I am sure before this the NYT was the darling of tne NYC Jewish establishment
21 posted on 04/07/2002 11:58:55 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: LarryLied
Supporting Israel IS NOT anti-Bush....

Giuliani visits Israel, avoids Palestinian areas...

'The New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has visited scenes of suicide bombings in Jerusalem to show solidarity with Israelis but stayed well away from parts of Jerusalem inhabited mainly by Palestinians. Giuliani, who barred Palestinian President Yasser Arafat from a 1995 concert in New York with world leaders, said America felt a great kinship with the people of Israel and that suicide bombings since September 11 brought the two countries even closer.'

22 posted on 04/07/2002 12:09:43 PM PDT by veronica
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To: mv1
If you're trying to make a point, make it. The picture isn't doing it.
23 posted on 04/07/2002 12:11:59 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: LarryLied
With a news blackout of pro-Israel rallies? So you're saying the networks etc. are really on Israel's side, they are just trying to keep themselves from inflaming Arab sentiments by showing the pro-Israel rallies, although they show the pro-Palestinian rallies? I see.
24 posted on 04/07/2002 12:20:13 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: stands2reason
I am trying to figure out the point of that photo as well. Vote for Hillary? Hillary 2004? Maybe the poster is on Hillary's reelection committee. :)) I'll be voting for Bush.
25 posted on 04/07/2002 12:22:35 PM PDT by veronica
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To: firebrand
Hey, way to go, I just saw this on NY1--the crowd looked huge!

Lemme go see if it's on the website yet.

26 posted on 04/07/2002 1:10:54 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: firebrand
PA, PLO-- six of one, half dozen of the other. :-/
27 posted on 04/07/2002 1:11:48 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: all
Okay, here it is:

As U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell departs to try to broker a cease-fire between the Israelis and Palestinians, over 10,000 peoplegathered outside U.N. headquarters in Manhattan to protest the Bush administration’s demand for Israel to withdraw from the West Bank.

As U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell departs to try to broker a cease-fire between the Israelis and the Palestinians, over 10,000 people demonstrated near the United Nations headquarters in Midtown in support of Israel Sunday.

Rabbis and elected officials who spoke blasted President George Bush's demand that Israeli troops withdraw from the West Bank and called on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to ignore the president’s plea. Protestors at the passionate - though orderly - demonstration held up signs that called Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat a terrorist, as well is pictures of Israeli victims in the conflict.

“Telling Israel it has a right to fight terror but must withdraw before destroying the terrorist infrastructure is like America declaring it has the right to fight to fight terror but will, without delay withdraw from Afghanistan,” said Rabbi Avi Weiss of the Hebrew Institute of Riverdale.

On Saturday, Bush called for Israeli forces to withdraw “without delay.” Delivering the message directly in a 20-minute phone call that aides described as tense, Bush told Sharon that the Israeli besiegement of West Banks towns must end for the American peace initiative to have a chance at success.

Sharon promised to “expedite” the operation, but he offered no deadline for a withdrawal, nor did Bush go so far as to push for an exact timeline.

Powell is leaving for the Middle East Sunday night as the administration seeks a greater role in ending the conflict. It is still unknown whether the secretary of state will meet with Arafat, but Powell says he hopes to.

“I would try to see the chairman, as I have in the past, as well as try to see other Palestinian leaders,” Powell said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday morning. “I have to be able to talk to all sides, otherwise you will never move forward into a cease-fire and into a political solution.”

A Palestinian cabinet secretary said Saturday that no Palestinian representatives will meet with Powell unless he visits Arafat at the compound in Ramallah where he has been surrounded by Israeli military forces for more than a week. That declaration came after President Bush criticized Arafat’s leadership in his remarks Saturday, suggesting that peace can be achieved without Arafat’s help.

Sunday’s pro-Israel rally in Manhattan was just the latest in a series of demonstrations in support of both the Israelis and Palestinians in New York City in recent weeks, though the numbers have been growing. On Saturday, about 1,000 pro-Palestinian protestors rallied at Brooklyn Borough Hall and then marched across the Brooklyn Bridge to City Hall.

28 posted on 04/07/2002 1:18:58 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: firebrand;Yehuda;newwahoo;els;starfan;evilc;dutchy;littlebill;japanese ghost;stand watie
It was a wonderful time! I am going to post pictures tonight soon!!

A NEW TERM: ARAFACISM!!!!

29 posted on 04/07/2002 1:20:27 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: firebrand
I have no idea why the world media is beating up on Israel. Makes no sense to me.

My point is that while it is in American interests to help Israel root out terrorists, it is not in our interest to be tied anymore than we need be to what is occurring.

Netenyahu warned against it when he said it would be very bad for America's war on terror to be viewed as an Israeli/American war on Arabs.

We all saw what happened in Gitmo. We all saw the media accounts of American bombs killing civilians in Afghanistan. Do we need to be linked to the actions of the IDF?

You can be sure the media, most in Israel and those Democrats who smile in conservative faces at the pro-Israel rallies will be the first to pin any atrocity committed in the West Bank on America and Republicans.

Liberals have been playing this game for decades. Think conservatives would wake up someday.

30 posted on 04/07/2002 1:20:44 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: whadizit; Yehuda; Newwahoo; els; firebrand; starfan; annaz; mercuria; Incindiary; Lowbridge
Well, I was there, and got pictures to prove it!! There was over 12 to 13 thousand people in the plaza, and one Cop told me he turned away thousands!! He estimated 20,000 people showed up to support Israel!!
31 posted on 04/07/2002 1:22:31 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Ziva
HEY!! I was there, too! I was in the front section, at the rear of the front section, dressed in a suit and tie, with a white cap and holding a Israeli Flag!! You couldn't miss this big guy!! I was standing near the speakers that were set up next to the street, at the rear of the front section!!
32 posted on 04/07/2002 1:24:42 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
You rock!!!
 
The rally doesn't start here for another half hour yet. But the baby just went down for a nap and my two friends who were supposed to go with me have cancelled... 
 
How encouraging to hear about the great turnout you guys had! Awesome!
 
 
My sign, if I make it out there, will say:
 
 
 
Arafat, Hussein:
STOP CHILD
SACRIFICE!
Pali Parents:
Your children are worth more
than 25K!!

33 posted on 04/07/2002 1:35:58 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: LarryLied
We all saw what happened in Gitmo. We all saw the media accounts of American bombs killing civilians in Afghanistan. Do we need to be linked to the actions of the IDF?

Larry, you and I have been in agreement on many things here but I have to tell you-- that boat has already sailed, honey! No matter WHAT we do or don't do, we will be linked.

And frankly, the ratcheting up of protests and rhetoric in the ME sounds and smells awfully organized and purposeful. I know you know exactly what I'm talking about. At this point when people say "Don't piss off the Muslims" they might as well be saying "don't piss off the communists and anarchists who want our war on terror to fail and who are desperately trying to prevent us from expanding it". And I no longer care how mad either group gets. If there isn't a truth out there to enrage them, they'll invent & spread a lie to do the same. So we might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb.

I want them to see that they're going to face real opposition. They do tend to cave in the face of that.

34 posted on 04/07/2002 1:38:56 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Let them get mad at us for what we do to them, not what Israel does to them. That is my point. Israel today is ticking off our good ally Turkey because it doesn't like some comments which were made by Ecevit. That is the height of stupidity on Israeli's part. They should have let it slide. The comments were for domestic consumption and meaningless. But now that Israel is making a stink, what would have been forgotten in a day is becoming an issue.
35 posted on 04/07/2002 1:46:41 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Perhaps we should call all murderers "freedom fighters". If every one else is dead, they can have all of the freedom that they want!
36 posted on 04/07/2002 3:02:26 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: firebrand
Good rally. Hope the Palistinians are watching.
37 posted on 04/07/2002 3:09:11 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Yehuda
Great report, Yehuda! I felt like I was there! Let's make sure we get the accurate info about next week's event up in plenty of time and keep bumping it.
39 posted on 04/07/2002 3:24:10 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: LarryLied
Netenyahu warned against it when he said it would be very bad for America's war on terror to be viewed as an Israeli/American war on Arabs.

No he did not.

And the LIBERAL media is hammering Israel.

Not the Conservative pundits in the US or elsewhere.

40 posted on 04/07/2002 3:33:40 PM PDT by veronica
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