Posted on 04/07/2002 10:34:34 AM PDT by firebrand
RaceBannon phoned in from the rally, which was moved to Dag Hammarskjold Park. It was just breaking up at about 12:15, although many people were still there and some of the speakers were still giving interviews. Race estimated 12,000 people.
Speakers were Congressman Engels, Senator Schumer, Andy Cuomo, Curtis Sliwa, Dove Hikind, Rabbi Golden, probably others.
By sheer coincidence, Race met up with newwahoo in the crowd.
The crowd was very polite, lots of families, psalms were sung in Hebrew, and even the booing was subdued---even when the New York Times was mentioned.
Next Sunday, the demonstration is said to be at 55th and Park at 10:30, where the PLO office is.
Yehuda, Race, and newwahoo I hope will correct any errors I've made here, or start a new thread.
Giuliani visits Israel, avoids Palestinian areas...
'The New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has visited scenes of suicide bombings in Jerusalem to show solidarity with Israelis but stayed well away from parts of Jerusalem inhabited mainly by Palestinians. Giuliani, who barred Palestinian President Yasser Arafat from a 1995 concert in New York with world leaders, said America felt a great kinship with the people of Israel and that suicide bombings since September 11 brought the two countries even closer.'
Lemme go see if it's on the website yet.
As U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell departs to try to broker a cease-fire between the Israelis and Palestinians, over 10,000 peoplegathered outside U.N. headquarters in Manhattan to protest the Bush administrations demand for Israel to withdraw from the West Bank.
As U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell departs to try to broker a cease-fire between the Israelis and the Palestinians, over 10,000 people demonstrated near the United Nations headquarters in Midtown in support of Israel Sunday.
Rabbis and elected officials who spoke blasted President George Bush's demand that Israeli troops withdraw from the West Bank and called on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to ignore the presidents plea. Protestors at the passionate - though orderly - demonstration held up signs that called Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat a terrorist, as well is pictures of Israeli victims in the conflict.
Telling Israel it has a right to fight terror but must withdraw before destroying the terrorist infrastructure is like America declaring it has the right to fight to fight terror but will, without delay withdraw from Afghanistan, said Rabbi Avi Weiss of the Hebrew Institute of Riverdale.
On Saturday, Bush called for Israeli forces to withdraw without delay. Delivering the message directly in a 20-minute phone call that aides described as tense, Bush told Sharon that the Israeli besiegement of West Banks towns must end for the American peace initiative to have a chance at success.
Sharon promised to expedite the operation, but he offered no deadline for a withdrawal, nor did Bush go so far as to push for an exact timeline.
Powell is leaving for the Middle East Sunday night as the administration seeks a greater role in ending the conflict. It is still unknown whether the secretary of state will meet with Arafat, but Powell says he hopes to.
I would try to see the chairman, as I have in the past, as well as try to see other Palestinian leaders, Powell said on NBCs Meet the Press Sunday morning. I have to be able to talk to all sides, otherwise you will never move forward into a cease-fire and into a political solution.
A Palestinian cabinet secretary said Saturday that no Palestinian representatives will meet with Powell unless he visits Arafat at the compound in Ramallah where he has been surrounded by Israeli military forces for more than a week. That declaration came after President Bush criticized Arafats leadership in his remarks Saturday, suggesting that peace can be achieved without Arafats help.
Sundays pro-Israel rally in Manhattan was just the latest in a series of demonstrations in support of both the Israelis and Palestinians in New York City in recent weeks, though the numbers have been growing. On Saturday, about 1,000 pro-Palestinian protestors rallied at Brooklyn Borough Hall and then marched across the Brooklyn Bridge to City Hall.
A NEW TERM: ARAFACISM!!!!
My point is that while it is in American interests to help Israel root out terrorists, it is not in our interest to be tied anymore than we need be to what is occurring.
Netenyahu warned against it when he said it would be very bad for America's war on terror to be viewed as an Israeli/American war on Arabs.
We all saw what happened in Gitmo. We all saw the media accounts of American bombs killing civilians in Afghanistan. Do we need to be linked to the actions of the IDF?
You can be sure the media, most in Israel and those Democrats who smile in conservative faces at the pro-Israel rallies will be the first to pin any atrocity committed in the West Bank on America and Republicans.
Liberals have been playing this game for decades. Think conservatives would wake up someday.
Arafat, Hussein:
STOP CHILD
SACRIFICE!
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Pali Parents:
Your children are worth more
than 25K!!
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Larry, you and I have been in agreement on many things here but I have to tell you-- that boat has already sailed, honey! No matter WHAT we do or don't do, we will be linked.
And frankly, the ratcheting up of protests and rhetoric in the ME sounds and smells awfully organized and purposeful. I know you know exactly what I'm talking about. At this point when people say "Don't piss off the Muslims" they might as well be saying "don't piss off the communists and anarchists who want our war on terror to fail and who are desperately trying to prevent us from expanding it". And I no longer care how mad either group gets. If there isn't a truth out there to enrage them, they'll invent & spread a lie to do the same. So we might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb.
I want them to see that they're going to face real opposition. They do tend to cave in the face of that.
No he did not.
And the LIBERAL media is hammering Israel.
Not the Conservative pundits in the US or elsewhere.
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