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Posted on 04/15/2002 12:11:55 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: Gophack
Not to be contrary, but I do not believe that the Catholic Church is the exclusive Church. Never will.
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posted on
04/15/2002 2:57:03 PM PDT
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Malcolm
To: sinkspur
I figured as much, but I wasn't sure if they were required to learn it or some other "common" language in order to communicate with each other.
To: Gophack
You wrote:
I understand that you have major problems with some tenets of the Catholic Church...
And indeed your comment seems kind of foolish, now that you have had MINE removed. (#28)
My point was, simply, that it is the very PREMISE of the Roman Church that has invited the scandal which has now befallen it.
The responsibility is now YOURS for preventing other victims from seeing that.
An awesome responsibility, I would say.
Care to discuss it OPENLY?
To: goldenstategirl
I just heard on foxnews cable that the authorities might be going to charge Cardinal Law...maybe he will now stay in Rome.
To: marshmallow
If the US bishops act true to form, they will listen politely while the Holy Father speaks, nod their heads, then go away and do whatever it was they intended to do in the first place. Sigh...that is my fear.
It reminds me of the difference I noticed in how my teenage daughters reacted (as opposed to how I reacted to my parents) when told something they didn't want to hear. My daughters would listen to me patiently, and politely agree with everything I said, "Yes, m'am" and "no, m'am" they would say. Then they would proceed to ignore the directive and do whatever they wanted. They were smart, they knew I couldn't watch them 100% of the time. I, on the other hand, got whacked up side the head a number of times for "smart-mouthing" and arguing with my parents.
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posted on
04/15/2002 5:02:26 PM PDT
by
Nubbin
To: history_matters
Thanks for the ping.
To: Domestic Church
Oh my. This could create some new and interesting possibilities. Will he pack his bags for a one-way trip and find a new job in the Vatican? I hope that if charges are brought he will be sent back to the US. It will create more problems if he is not.
To: goldenstategirl
The Pope could imprison Law and others at the Vatican. I know others say that is an impossibility, but I somehow think it is more likely than his going to jail in America.
To: history_matters
That's an interesting thought. If he does, I hope he makes it very clear that's what he's doing so that detractors cannot accuse him of providing sanctuary for possible criminals.
To: history_matters
I have a gut feeling that the charges are a spin job...just turning the heat up a notch but then again, maybe not.
To: Domestic Church;history_matters
I also hope that strong action comes out of this conference. It would put to rest rumors that he is incapable of leading the Church due to his physical condition.
To: Domestic Church; catholic_list
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To: Sola Sola
Actually, I didn't have your post removed. I responded to it, as you can see above.
I have no problem discussing my religion openly. I believe that I responded to your major bone of contention -- that the Catholic Church has no authority. If you would like to refute my argument above, please do so and I will respond as best I can.
God bless.
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posted on
04/15/2002 6:26:15 PM PDT
by
Gophack
To: history_matters
I pray that our Holy Father, guided by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, will not only quickly implement a solution to the abhorrent crisis our Church faces due to the despicable behavior of a small percentage of our clergy, but also heal the victims of this assault, including devout Catholics who may be facing a faith crisis.
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posted on
04/15/2002 6:28:57 PM PDT
by
EODGUY
To: Malcolm
You're not being contrary. I respect everyone's opinion, and enjoy friendly and courteous dialogue.
I didn't say that the Catholic Church was the exclusive church, just that it was the church established by Jesus Christ and has an unbroken line of succession from Peter down to Pope John Paul II. I suppose that could mean "exclusive", but I would prefer to use the word "inclusive" because all are welcome. Since "catholic" means "universal", I suppose that is the best description of the church.
God bless.
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posted on
04/15/2002 6:29:20 PM PDT
by
Gophack
To: Domestic Church
What makes you think that.
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posted on
04/15/2002 7:03:09 PM PDT
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fatima
Comment #57 Removed by Moderator
Comment #58 Removed by Moderator
To: history_matters; catholic_list
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posted on
04/15/2002 7:22:12 PM PDT
by
Romulus
To: epluribus_2
Jesus and his disciples and my Church came BEFORE the scriptures
Really? How is that? Was it not the emperor of Rome, Constantine who wasn't even a Christian, at the time who convened the council at Nicea?
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posted on
04/15/2002 7:34:11 PM PDT
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marajade
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