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'Just Sprinkle A Little Kiddy-Cocaine On Your Child's Applesauce'
us newswire ^ | 5/13/02

Posted on 05/13/2002 1:40:10 PM PDT by knak

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I cannot imagine drugging my own child! These parents that do this (some I bet) have probably not done any research about the drugs they're using or the problems they're treating.
1 posted on 05/13/2002 1:40:11 PM PDT by knak
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Well, of course they haven't!!
Parents of 14-year-olds are in their mid-to-upper 30s, and went to school at a time when they learned to 'trust' their teacher, because teachers were heroes.

So, now, when the teacher and school nurse say "Your child has ADHD and this is how we treat it", the parents implicitly trust them. I bet the NEA is giggling all over the place!

2 posted on 05/13/2002 1:44:50 PM PDT by HiJinx
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To: knak
Neither ADHD nor any "learning disability" has objective scientific criteria confirming their existence.

As someone with ADHD, I've not heard about this. Any documentation of such?
4 posted on 05/13/2002 1:47:37 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: chookter; Orual; Dimensio; all

CCHR is the international watchdog for mental health, established in 1969 by the Church of Scientology to investigate and expose psychiatric violations of human rights.

5 posted on 05/13/2002 1:52:35 PM PDT by dighton
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D'oh, read down one more paragraph and I would have seen it.

I remember a few months back someone was quoting a known Co$ shill over the "myth" of ADHD.
6 posted on 05/13/2002 1:54:15 PM PDT by Dimensio
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How is it humanly possible for people in their mid to upper 30's to have a fourteen year old child?
7 posted on 05/13/2002 2:06:47 PM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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If you have a baby at 23, you'll be 37 when it's 14.
8 posted on 05/13/2002 2:09:05 PM PDT by Xenalyte
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How is it humanly possible for people in their mid to upper 30's to have a fourteen year old child?

Hmmm... 30 - 14 = 16 Years Old

35 -14 = 21 Years Old.

I believe it IS humanly possible. Unless you do your math differently?

9 posted on 05/13/2002 2:11:05 PM PDT by zoyd
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To: Dimensio
Everytime an issue involving prescription drugs comes up, the majority of FR poo-poos the existence of ANY disorders. Even O'TwitlyReilly was screaming that "there's no such thing as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and that people who claim to have it are actually character flawed." Grrrrr. THAT'S when I stopped watching him.

My point is that, yes, lots of people MAY jump on these disorders and drugs TOO quickly, but to those who actually DO have a disorder, the drugs are a lifesaver. Don't be harrassed about this. I know people with severe ADHD, and I myself suffer from PTSD. People who try to deny that these things exist are just as narrow minded as the NEA who CREATE the disorders willy-nilly. It's just NOT a black and white issue.

10 posted on 05/13/2002 2:11:45 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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I'd sooner kids were on Ritalin (or Wellbutrin, or whatever) than that get involved with freakin Church of $cientology. Believe nothing that comes out of any organization connected to them.

Uh oh, I'll be on their watch list now.

11 posted on 05/13/2002 2:13:11 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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Ever listened to Dr. Dean Edell?

He says that he would have been classified "ADHD" if that condition had existed when he was a child. He goes on to say that studies have proven that kids with "ADHD" tend to own their own businesses and do very well in society, WITHOUT Ritalin or other drugs. Basically, you're drugging the very people that are going to be most successful in life.

My own personal opinion is that about 75% of those taking Ritalin are actually 'normal' kids -- their behavior falls within 'normal' bounds -- but parents can't be bothered to care for a kid with higher-than-average energy levels and lower-than-average concentration.

12 posted on 05/13/2002 2:16:53 PM PDT by zoyd
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Back in my day, we were called daydreamers.

My own personal opinion is that about 75% of those taking Ritalin are actually 'normal' kids -- their behavior falls within 'normal' bounds -- but parents can't be bothered to care for a kid with higher-than-average energy levels and lower-than-average concentration.

Nope, we can't have that. The sheep must be sedate. Any sheep that would be out-of-step (inquisitive, quick learner, rebel(?), MUST BE SEDATED!.

Sleep,sleep,sleep my little sheep.

13 posted on 05/13/2002 2:23:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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I agree with you that many, many kids do not belong on Ritalin. But there ARE a few. I have heard Dr. Edell discuss the subject, and I know that he too suffers from it. It's good that he validates the reality of it. But as I recall, he doesn't condemn the use of Ritalin in general, just that it's overused.
14 posted on 05/13/2002 2:26:01 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: zoyd
The point of my post is to point out that the early twenties is WAY too young to have a child, unless a parent:

-Got married right out of high school
-Had an "accident"
-Somehow graduated from college at 16 and got a killer job
-Are named Whoopi Godberg

15 posted on 05/13/2002 2:38:26 PM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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The point of my post is to point out that the early twenties is WAY too young to have a child, unless a parent:

I disagree. I'm single, but I don't have any problem with people in their 20s gettng married and having kids. You may end up getting a few more responses about your opinion... that's a bold statement to make. Good luck.

16 posted on 05/13/2002 2:46:03 PM PDT by zoyd
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My mom had me at 22 (yes she was married) and she turned out to be a wonderful mother...when I was 14, she was 36. I got married at 22, had my first child 3 years later, and am pregnant again at 29. I actually think it is a better idea for women to have their kids in their 20s, granted that they are stable (i.e. married), because 1)bodies are more fertile at that time, and 2) we seem to have more energy than a 40-year-old woman trying to chase a toddler around the house.

Too many women have waited until they are in their late 30s and early 40s to try to have kids to find out that their biological clock has run out. I think there is a reason that God designed us females to only be fertile for so many years. I may be wrong, but the evidence is too strong to ignore.

End of pregnant woman rant.

17 posted on 05/13/2002 3:15:42 PM PDT by Okies love Dubya 2
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My own personal opinion is that about 75% of those taking Ritalin are actually 'normal' kids -- their behavior falls within 'normal' bounds -- but parents can't be bothered to care for a kid with higher-than-average energy levels and lower-than-average concentration.

I agree. But we also have to be careful that just because a diagnosis is over-applied doesn't mean that it's not a correct diagnosis for some people.
18 posted on 05/13/2002 3:20:34 PM PDT by moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing
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I'd say 25 is OK, but any earlier than that is asking for trouble, as is starting after 35.
19 posted on 05/13/2002 3:21:43 PM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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I should have put a qualifying statement as "these days". Of course the older generations than myself, people were way more responsible than they are today, but I know very few people in my age bracket, (Yes, I am 36) that have 14 year old kids.
20 posted on 05/13/2002 3:24:34 PM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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