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Sept. 11 probe: Wiretaps in Italy hear pair talk of `terrifying' plan by a `madman'
Yahoo ^ | Tue May 28 | PIERO VALSECCHI

Posted on 05/28/2002 4:07:45 PM PDT by gubamyster

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To: piasa
"There's an arrticle on the Voice there about *gasp*... Coca Cola selling 'old' soda in minority neighborhods."

And never mind the fact that sell-thru is slower in mom & pop stores and minority neighborhoods, so that the average age of just about every product will be higher.

Check out the strawberry preserves in stores like these -- the contents have turned black.

In fact, you would probably find a lot of outdated copies of the Voice in such stores -- if they were stupid enough to carry it...

61 posted on 05/29/2002 8:19:28 AM PDT by okie01
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To: Tricorn
Hopefully, no one thinks that some might not be involved in the creation and sustaining terrorists.

Any one who truly preaches the message of Islame has to produce terrorists or be false to the teaching of the "Prophet" piss be upon his head.

62 posted on 05/29/2002 8:46:04 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: piasa
Sounds like he got the death penalty and it wasn't in abstentia...
63 posted on 05/29/2002 9:39:43 AM PDT by weegee
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To: swarthyguy
Yes! Was that the one showing the two towers in flames in September? Somebody sure knew what was going to happen and when.
64 posted on 05/29/2002 10:11:37 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: gubamyster
"In the future, listen to the news and remember these words: `above the head.'"

This expresses their intention clearly. It's a crime Bush did not connect the dots!

65 posted on 05/29/2002 10:30:00 AM PDT by My2Cents
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To: gubamyster
Es Sayed, an Egyptian national, was convicted of the 1997 massacre at Luxor in which 58 foreign tourists were killed.

The tapes were made from bugging places where the two men were,

If the guy was convicted, why wasn't he arrested and picked up??

66 posted on 05/29/2002 12:33:48 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
I still don't know for sure, but maybe because he was convicted in absentia in Egypt, where convictions in absentia had been going on for some time. Many defendents in the Luxor murders were evidently convicted in absentia in trials like the one below during the 1990s, which I found on a search from Egyptian trial data. These trials were later ended due to complaints and pressure from human rights groups (no doubt many of them now known to finance terrorism as well as the more legitimate international groups) :

"The last major military trial of this kind was held between February and April 1999, involving 107 defendants, 60 in absentia. Most were charged with membership of an illegal organization (al-Gihad), as well as other charges including conspiracy to commit murder, weapons possession, and forging official documents. Several had been arrested the previous year in Albania, reportedly in connection with a planned attack on U.S. interests there. Several other defendants had been extradited from Bulgaria, Azerbaijan, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Libya. The Supreme Military Court sentenced nine to death, among them Ayman al-Zawahiri in absentia. Seventy-eight were sent to prison and twenty were acquitted. As in previous cases, a number of defendants stated in court that they had been tortured. In July 1997 five members of al-Gama'a al-Islamiyyas leadership issued a statement from Tora Prison, where they are currently serving prison terms, calling for a halt to violence. With the exception of the killings at Luxor, this directive has been largely adhered to and has been reiterated on several occasions since. As a result, several thousand Islamist detainees have been released since 1998, most of whom had been held without trial."

67 posted on 05/29/2002 3:18:54 PM PDT by piasa
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Italian authorities arrest 2 in suspected terrorist cell

Mosques raided
11/29/2001
Associated Press

MILAN, Italy — Authorities raided several Islamic centers overnight in northern Italy and arrested two people accused of recruiting fighters for Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network, police said Thursday.

Police said a third man already detained in Milan, Abdelhalim Hafed Remadna of Algeria, had spoken directly with top bin Laden operatives in Afghanistan by satellite phone about sending new recruits to al-Qaeda camps.

Remadna and Yassine Chekkouri of Morocco, arrested early Thursday, both worked at Milan's Islamic Cultural Center and mosque, which U.S. officials say served as the base of bin Laden's operations in Europe.

Police raided the center along with another Milan mosque and several Islamic centers in northern Italy, said Bruno Megale, a deputy chief of Italy's anti-terrorism police.

In recent months, police have arrested a dozen people in and around Milan as part of the investigation, but Remadna and Chekkouri were the first directly affiliated with the center to have been detained.

In Remadna's office at the center, police seized a false Yemeni passport, a false Italian driver's license and faxes of a map showing how to cross into Afghanistan from Iran, Megale told a news conference.

The faxes, as well as wiretaps of telephone conversations between Remadna and bin Laden operatives in Afghanistan, showed that new recruits were advised in recent months to enter Afghanistan from Iran because it was easier than crossing from Pakistan, he said.

The wiretaps also revealed codes bin Laden's operatives used to indicate they needed new fighters, saying they were opening a new "gymnasium" and needed new gym instructors, Megale said.

Police initially said Remadna and the two other men arrested, as well as an Egyptian who remained at large, were suspected of criminal association aimed at possessing explosives and dangerous chemicals and producing false documents.

But at the news conference, Megale said the key charges were criminal association, producing false documents, arranging clandestine immigration and recruiting combatants to fight in Afghanistan. He was vague when pressed for details on the chemical charge.

Megale said an Italian chemist who converted to Islam had been questioned as part of the investigation and had his home searched but had not been charged.

Remadna was arrested Nov. 14 while boarding a train with allegedly false Italian residency documents, and police said he had intended to leave the country. He had been a secretary at the Milan center, a converted garage that the U.S. government recently described as "the main al-Qaeda station house in Europe."

Chekkouri was a librarian at the center and was arrested during the overnight raid. The other detainee, Nabil Benattia of Tunisia, was arrested Wednesday, Megele said. The Egyptian suspected of being a key bin Laden operative, Abdelkadir Es Sayed, 39, remained at large, police said.

The Islamic center's president, Abdel Hamid Shaari, said it "intends to defend its honor and its legal status. After all, it wasn't the center that was searched, but only the offices and workplaces of certain people who work at the center."

The arrests were part of a probe that led to the April arrest of Essid Sami Ben Khemais, a Tunisian who police in Europe now believe was sent from Afghanistan to supervise bin Laden's terrorist operations in Europe.

Spanish investigators say Ben Khemais may have met in Spain earlier this year with Mohamed Atta, one of the hijackers who attacked the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, and with members of an Algerian group in Spanish custody.

68 posted on 07/06/2002 11:24:11 PM PDT by piasa
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To: gubamyster
Signs of the times:

Profiles In Courage........Profiling Encouraged.

69 posted on 07/06/2002 11:42:23 PM PDT by Consort
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