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[Locked-flamewar] MUBARAK CLAIMS: EGYPT WARNED U.S. OF AN AL-QAIDA PLOT WEEK BEFORE 9/11
Drudge Report ^ | 6/3/2002 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 06/03/2002 7:59:52 PM PDT by DrLiberty

Egyptian intelligence warned American officials about a week before Sept. 11 that Osama bin Laden's network was in the advance stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, it will be reported on Tuesday (in the NY TIMES)... MORE... A senior U.S. intelligence official denied the warning was received...


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To: Judge Who
Like sand through an hourglass, so goes the erosion of another good thread.....or something like that. What were you talking about???? You believe this crap???
181 posted on 06/03/2002 9:32:35 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma
My apologies, Gramma. He stepped over the line.
182 posted on 06/03/2002 9:33:43 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: DrLiberty
The first indication that this story is at least a stretch and probably false is that it took nearly 9 months to surface.

Think about it. Does that make sense?

183 posted on 06/03/2002 9:35:06 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: DrLiberty
This seems like a conveniently self serving disclosure, don't you think? And why is it that this has just surfaced, coincidently along with the most recent savlos being fired at the Bush Administrtaion by the (increasingly emboldened and typically unpatriotic) dims, and their syncophants in the media?

Never mind. I already know the answers.

Egyptian intelligence warned American officials about a week before Sept. 11 that Osama bin Laden's network was in the advance stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, President Hosni Mubarak said in an interview on Sunday.

CYA attack piece. Is Carville working for Egypt nowadays?

Using a secret agent they had recruited who was in close contact with the bin Laden organization, Mr. Mubarak said, his intelligence chiefs tried unsuccessfully to halt the operation.

Uh. Sure.

Mr. Mubarak said his intelligence officials had no indication what the target would be and had no idea of the magnitude of the coming attack....Mr. Mubarak cited the warning as evidence that Egypt has become an increasingly valuable intelligence partner to the United States in the war against terrorism, especially since Sept. 11.

Probably the only truthful statement in the article.

"We informed them about everything," he said, referring to American intelligence officials. "Maybe some congressmen were thinking, `What is Egypt doing?' " for the United States, he said. "There are so many things we cannot say, mainly intelligence information. We did a lot, but sometimes you have to do it quietly." "I am afraid of what's happening in the Middle East for the future," he said. "the seriousness of the situation" may "generate new kinds of terrorism against all of us, against the U.S., against Egypt, against Jordan."

CYA. CYA. More CYA. Perhaps he sees the hammer coming down on their world very soon.

184 posted on 06/03/2002 9:36:12 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: DrLiberty
What more does it take for you people to see the big picture? Isn't that what intel people are traned to do? Wasn't Al-Queda the number one enemy?

Sure Al-Queda is enemy number one. Tell me, where was Osama's cave prior to 9/11? And oh by the way where were all of the 20,000 or so members of Al-Queda located? You do have a computer listing of thier home addresses dont you? No, why not? Didnt your snoop at the Bilderberger convention give it to you?

Also name the specific individuals in either the CIA or FBI that had knowledege of all the individual facts you mentioned. These things may have been know by the CIA or the FBI but there is no proof that any one person knew all of this and did nothing. If Dave S has one piece and Howlin has another and DrLiberty has a third and the three of us dont communicate there is no way the dots are going to be connected.

185 posted on 06/03/2002 9:36:43 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: A Navy Vet
Touched a sore spot, didn't I?

I don't like to say that to someone who has served his country proudly in the military, but you had no right to question my motives, either.

The time is way too late for niceties. The gloves are off. The stakes are way too high. So if I offended you, I'm sorry, but I won't curb my words - not for anyone. PC has taken us way too far down that road.

186 posted on 06/03/2002 9:37:10 PM PDT by DrLiberty
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To: A Navy Vet
Not YOUR fault, but thank you for being a considerate person!!!!!! :-)
187 posted on 06/03/2002 9:37:19 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: DrLiberty
Speaking of Egypt...

NewsMax.com: "EGYPTIANS KNEW OF PLANNED 9-11 ATTACKS LAST AUGUST, SAYS BANKER" by Dave Eberhart (052902)

THE MIDDLE EAST TIMES: Cairo, Egypt: "DISPARATE EGYPTIANS UNITE"

ahram.org.eg - AL-AHRAM: Cairo, Egypt. "CONTINUING SOLIDARITY" (May 16-22, 2002)

AL-AHRAM WEEKLY - EGYPT: "CROSSING TO MARTYRDOM" (042502)

ARABIC NEWS.com - Egypt-Palestine, Religion: "GRAND IMAN TANTAWI SAID PALESTINIAN RESISTANCE SUICIDE PERSONS ARE 'MARTYRS'" (March 21, 2002)

188 posted on 06/03/2002 9:37:29 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: tet68
Alex Jones of infowars.com/shortwave show has been screaming government prior knowledge for months and months now.
189 posted on 06/03/2002 9:39:07 PM PDT by bok
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Um, but let's see. Even though there is a mountain of evidence pointing to failures surrounding Clinton's lives, it's time to "move on" and blame Bush! Yea, that's the ticket!

Yep. That's the new game plan of the dims ones. They have little else to discuss.

190 posted on 06/03/2002 9:42:25 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Dave S
"If Dave S has one piece and Howlin has another and DrLiberty has a third and the three of us dont communicate there is no way the dots are going to be connected.

Yes of course that's it Dave!

No government agent or analyst in any department is in anyway allowed to communicate with each other in any way. Isn't that correct?

Gee, what were Collen Rowley, Robert Wright and the Phoenix Agent thinking?

191 posted on 06/03/2002 9:43:00 PM PDT by DrLiberty
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To: anniegetyourgun
Yep....globalist, statist, NWO-type, Bilderburger, Illuminati, stupid and drunk frat boy. Can't you tell it's a giant government conspiracy? Or have they gotten to you too?

Don't forget the aliens. Makes us angry.

192 posted on 06/03/2002 9:46:01 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Fred Mertz
I tend to think that our FBI and CIA screwed the pooch and heads should roll.

Agree completely. I think it's most unfortunate that a rational discussion about that fact seems to be nearly impossible. Notice how this entire thread has turned into another defense of Bush, and the article wasn't even about Bush. The left wants to blame Bush, the right wants to defend Bush, meanwhile nobody seems to give a damn about actually getting to the bottom of things. It's frustrating.

193 posted on 06/03/2002 9:47:09 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Dave S
"Whats the businessman's name? Have you seen his ticket or hotel receipts? Did he give a deposition and have his story written down before it happened or only after? Funny he should know something that some of the hijackers didnt know (i.e, that it was a suicide mission). Some people are so gullible its pathetic."

See post #188. Newsmax article.

194 posted on 06/03/2002 9:47:48 PM PDT by DrLiberty
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To: DrLiberty
True citizens WANT THE TRUTH!

Fair enough.

They QUESTION THEIR GOVERNMENT!

When there's a reason to, yes. But not automatically 100% of the time just to raise hell.

They DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING AN AMERICAN OFFICIAL SAYS!

No, but they sure believe what an American official says over what the leader of a terrorist-harboring Islamist authoritarian state says, unless there's overwhelming evidence presented with the claim. There is none presented in this case. There's also the niggling little fact to consider that in Mubarak's own words, his intelligence officials had no indication what the target would be and had no idea of the magnitude of the coming attack. So the information would have been largely useless in any case. "Oh, Osama's up to something again? Well, no sh*t, Sherlock."

they also AREN'T AFRAID TO ACCUSE LEADERS OF CRIMES, INCLUDING TREASON!

Again, only when there's reason to believe treason might have been committed. There is not the slightest reason to believe any treason has occurred with respect to this "information," whether Mubarak is lying or telling the truth. Accusing without evidence doesn't make you a "true citizen," it just makes you a kook.

195 posted on 06/03/2002 9:48:17 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: mikeIII
What credibility does Egypt have?

I'm sure that Mormon missionaries, Boy Scouts, and the Little Sisters of the Poor have more credibility than Egyptian intelligence agencies. However, the latter is rather more likely to associate with al-Qaeda terrorists and discover their plans.

196 posted on 06/03/2002 9:48:41 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: Sandy
"...meanwhile nobody seems to give a damn about actually getting to the bottom of things. It's frustrating."

Psst....check out infowars.com, Alex Jones has overwhelming documentation and has a great film on the subject.

197 posted on 06/03/2002 9:50:12 PM PDT by DrLiberty
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To: Howlin;Iwentsouth
[The Bush family has several ongoing business investments with the Saudis]

Name them. With proof. And don't come back with anything except what the Bush family has direct investments with the Saudis with. None of this "They use the same broker" crap. What investments do any of the Bush family have directly with the Saudis?

Right, Howlin. Same old BS and unsubstantiated charges, upon which the libs love to suckle.

Well, I put gas in my car today. Does that make ME a conspirator? Give me a /.

198 posted on 06/03/2002 9:51:02 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Carry_Okie
Actually, it's old news. See reply 107.
199 posted on 06/03/2002 9:51:42 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Dave S
Am I wrong about this: I thought before 9-11 the CIA and the FBI were NOT allowed, by law, to share information.
200 posted on 06/03/2002 9:52:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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