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China Airlines Crash Remains Mystery - "Last Noise On CVR Was Sharp 'Thud' Before Power Went Off"
Associated Press ^ | 23 June 2002 | ANNIE HUANG

Posted on 06/23/2002 12:50:38 PM PDT by Asmodeus

TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) - Initial analysis of a black box from a China Airlines jet has yielded no clues in the crash last month that killed 225 people but has shown several unusual sounds, the chief investigator said Sunday.

Minutes before the Boeing 747-200 went down, the cockpit voice recorder picked up a noise that sounded like a human heart beat. But investigators have yet to identify the source of the noise, said Kay Yong, the chief investigator at Taiwan's Aviation Safety Council.

Shortly before the crash, the black box also recorded a noise that sounded like "ka ta, ka ta, ka ta," Yong said. The last noise was a sharp "thud" before the power went off, he said.

Several Boeing 747 pilots who listened to the tape said the sounds were not normal in the cockpit, Yong said.

Each sound lasts a fraction of a second. Investigators could not say if they were related to the crash, "but at this moment, we'd rather be more suspicious," Yong said.

A closer and more sophisticated analysis was needed to identify the noises, he said.

The second black box, the flight data recorder, was still being analyzed, and Yong would not comment on its contents.

Yong repeated on Sunday that the pilots' conversations did not indicate any problems.

He refused to speculate about why the plane crashed on May 25 about 20 minutes after taking off from Taiwan enroute for Hong Kong. But divers searching for the wreckage deep under the sea did not "find anything that did not belong to the airplane."

Search crews are still trying to recover large parts of the plane, which split into four pieces before plunging into the Taiwan Strait near the Penghu island chain off Taiwan's western coast. The wreckage might offer the best clues about why the plane crashed.

Some aviation experts have suggested that metal fatigue might have caused the 22-year-old plane to break up. Others have suggested that an explosion — perhaps in the fuel tank — was to blame. Security officials have said there were no signs of terrorism or a missile attack.

Rescue teams have so far recovered 160 bodies. Eight corpses — including that of co-pilot Hsieh Ya-hsiung — were found Saturday in wreckage about 200 feet under the sea.

The United Daily News quoted prosecutors as saying Hsieh's body was attached to the seat when it was found, indicating there had been no problem requiring him to get up immediately before the crash.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinaairlines
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1 posted on 06/23/2002 12:50:39 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus
Maybe a pressure bulkhead failure.
2 posted on 06/23/2002 12:56:22 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Asmodeus
the black box also recorded a noise that sounded like "ka ta, ka ta, ka ta,"

What is the Chinese word for "Oh s**t!"?

3 posted on 06/23/2002 12:59:09 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER; MindBender26; Tennessee_Bob; All
Maybe a pressure bulkhead failure.

As you probably know, that caused the crash of JAL 123: the worst single-airplane disaster in history. It would be interesting to note similarities and differences.

JAL 123 CVR transcript.

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WARNING -- horrific:
JAL 123 CVR, actual recording, last 56 seconds.

4 posted on 06/23/2002 1:18:06 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Asmodeus
Shortly before the crash, the black box also recorded a noise that sounded like "ka ta, ka ta, ka ta

Ticking?

5 posted on 06/23/2002 1:29:56 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Maybe a pressure bulkhead failure.
Or a forward cargo-bay door as on UAL 811 ...
8 posted on 06/23/2002 4:09:37 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Confederate Keyester
Woodpecker related Scaler Weapon?
Geez ...I'll bet you can't explain the principles of what 'verbage' it is you scribbled above ...

Son, have you ever even HEARD the Russian 'woodpecker'?

9 posted on 06/23/2002 4:12:18 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Asmodeus
It will be telling if a particular set of seat rows on the starboard side are missing just those seats nearest the outer skin of the aircraft - in the area just slightly forward of the starboard wing ...
10 posted on 06/23/2002 4:16:52 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Asmodeus
Minutes before the Boeing 747-200 went down, the cockpit voice recorder picked up a noise that sounded like a human heart beat. ... the black box also recorded a noise that sounded like "ka ta, ka ta, ka ta,"
Depending on the rate at which this sound was made - the aircraft could have been violently porpoising up and down or yawing back and forth (due to whatever reason) - just before total airframe failure and the recorder was cut off ...
11 posted on 06/23/2002 4:28:21 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: goldenstategirl
Ticking?
I think it would be safe to say that 'ticking' from some sort of timing device would been drowned-out by general wind, fan and aircraft noises ...
12 posted on 06/23/2002 4:30:13 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Confederate Keyester; John Robinson
You'd think the HTML auto-detect was broken...
15 posted on 06/23/2002 5:44:43 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Asmodeus

Taiwan investigators said June 23, 2002 they heard a series of unidentified sounds in the cockpit recordings of a China Airlines jet that mysteriously broke up in mid-air and crashed into the sea last month, killing 225 people. A Taiwan Aviation investigator reveals one of the black boxes in Taipei on June 19 that was recovered from the Boeing 747-200 jet which broke up in mid-air and crashed into the sea on May 25. (Kenny Wu/Reuters)

16 posted on 06/23/2002 5:45:43 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Registered
There was an HTML bold embedded in that comment. One little piece of HTML and paragraphs are NOT made. (There is a very good reason for this.)
17 posted on 06/23/2002 5:48:15 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: Registered
You'd think the HTML auto-detect was broken...

It had a line with HTML bold tags. That will do it every time.

19 posted on 06/23/2002 6:25:32 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Asmodeus
bump
20 posted on 06/23/2002 7:19:11 PM PDT by VOA
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