PLEDGE SHOCKER - This is why we must unseat Democrats who appoint Lib judges!!!

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[deport]

The make up of the Senate in 1971 when the Nixon appt was made is as follows....

• Democrats --- 54
  
• Republicans -- 44
  
• Independents -- 1
  
• Conservative -- 1

[Militiaman7]

That may be the case, however factor in age, senility, just plain stupidity and living on the left coast.

[Prodigal Son]

Look at your currency. It says "in God we trust"

Actually, my currency has a picture of the Queen on it ;-) (But I hear ya)

[WakeUpChristian]

Call Federal Judge Alfred Goodwin and demand
that he immediately resign... (415) 556-9800

[elephantlips]

We'll see which way this goes and I doubt that it will follow your idea.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

There's a poll to Freep there, too.

[mrfixit514]

"Under God" still legal in good ole Dixie. Sorry Kalifornia. You reap what you sow!

[rwfromkansas]

The controversy is over liberal activist judges that do not understand the First Amendment. If you agree with them, if you can provide the following, I will begin to believe the Pledge is unconstitutional for having "under God":

1) historical evidence that "under God" is unconstitutional *evidence from the founding to the year 1900 in a continuous stream of similar attitudes against religion in the public sphere*
2) judicial precedents from the same time period, both at the state and national level
3) citations from the Constitution and founding fathers to support your position
4) Actions of the founding fathers in positions of power that support your position

[The Iguana]

Just go back to the way the pledge was before 1954 when Eisenhower added the "under god" phrase in 1954.

Taking God out of our public discourse is not acceptable.

[BenLurkin]

A "Hugh Hewitt Show" BUMP.

[BenLurkin]

BTTT

[ppaul]

Petition to the President of the United States and Members of Congress

I speak as an American citizen. The recent decision of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco where the Pledge of Allegiance was ruled Unconstitutional is an attack on America by way of the legal system. We are indeed "One Nation Under God."

To declare that anyone who pledges allegiance to the Flag of our Country is breaking the law is to declare the President of the United States and every member of Congress to be law breakers.

It has become abundantly clear that the two judges that voted for this must be impeached and removed from office. Please use the authority that you have been invested with and immediately vote to impeach judges Stephen Reinhardt and Alfred Goodwin.

To sign the Petition, click HERE.

[nicmarlo]

Let's start with South Dakota.....they should get rid of little Tommie Dashole, the GREAT OBSTRUCTIONIST

[TN Republican]

The controversy should be about forcing kids to recite any oath that may violate their beliefs. God ain't the half of it, in my opinion.

[Texasforever]

he controversy should be about forcing kids to recite any oath that may violate their beliefs. God ain't the half of it, in my opinion.

The pledge has been voluntary since the 40's.

[TN Republican]

Nixon's apartment was provided in the years between 1962 & 1968, after he lost to Pat Brown in California.

[TN Republican]

I should have as much right to vilify J.C. as I have to vilify Mohammed or Allah. Puritanical laws are simply not Constitutional.

The forbidding of Sunday alcohol sales is some jurisdictions is a great offense to my sensibilities - that is, as a Christian, you have no right to force me to observe the Sabbath. Jews don't do it, Seventh-Day Adventists don't do it, but those who keep the Pope's Sabbath think they have the "God-given" right to keep me from buying a 6-pack at 11:55 on a Sunday morning.

Government red tape in the name of the Almighty God is no better than the same regulation in the name of the Almighty State.

[TN Republican]

So no states have passed any laws in the last 50 years requiring children to say the pledge? And all teachers who have threatened or tried to force children to say the pledge have therefore been reprimanded for violating the childrens' rights?

[Texasforever]

That is correct.

[TN Republican]

Fox News - The Origin of the Pledge

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, a Baptist minister in Boston who was prominent in the Christian Socialist movement of the time.

Bellamy was also an official in the National Education Association, the teachers' union, and he created the Pledge as part of a school flag-raising ceremony to mark the 400th anniversary of Columbus' arrival in America.

Bellamy's original words were:

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

He considered adding the word "equality" to stand with "liberty and justice," but he reasoned that the implication of equal rights for women and blacks would be too controversial.

The first draft of the Pledge was published in the Sept. 8, 1892, issue of The Youth's Companion, a popular family magazine. Daniel Ford, the Companion's publisher, had hired Bellamy after Bellamy had been forced from the pulpit for his socialist sermons.

The Pledge was reprinted on leaflets and distributed nationwide, with later versions repeating the preposition "to" before "the Republic." Twelve million schoolchildren recited it for the first time one month later on Columbus Day, Oct. 12, 1892.

From that point on, the Pledge was used by schoolchildren to salute the flag, though only in an unofficial capacity for several decades.

The original gesture when reciting the Pledge was not the current right hand held over the heart, but the "Roman salute" — a movement of the right hand away from the heart until it pointed away from the body. That fell out of favor when the Fascists in Italy and later the Nazis in Germany adopted the same salute.

In 1924, concerned that immigrants would actually be saluting the flags of their home countries, the American Legion and Daughters of the American Revolution pressured the National Flag Conference to replace the words "my flag" with "the Flag of the United States of America." Bellamy, still alive, was not happy about the change.

The Pledge now read:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

In 1942, soon after America entered World War II, Congress officially endorsed the Pledge of Allegiance and instituted the current hand-over-heart gesture. One year later, however, the Supreme Court ruled that schoolchildren could not be forced to recite the Pledge.

In 1954, under pressure from the Knights of Columbus and other religious groups, Congress officially added the words "under God" to the Pledge, so that it currently reads:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Several variations of the Pledge are in use by groups espousing differing social and political principles. Pro-life activists sometimes add the words "born and unborn" to the end of the sentence, while liberals will often add Bellamy's original "equality."

Last fall, actor Tom Hanks created a stir when he recited the Pledge on a televised Sept. 11 fundraiser and omitted the phrase "under God."

Sources: Dr. John W. Baer, The Pledge of Allegiance: A Short History; The American Legion.

It seems that the USSC settled the issue of forced recital in 1943. I do not know if the state legislatures and state AG's have made a good faith effort to educate the children of this fact.