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On FNC right now - repeat of Pulse exclusive "Terror on our Doorstep"
Fox News Channel ^ | 7/14/02 | Geraldo Rivera

Posted on 07/14/2002 6:20:25 PM PDT by spycatcher

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:34:08 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

This was the best report on Islamic extremists crossing from Mexico I've seen in the mainstream media.


(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: geraldo; illegalimmigrants; terrorists; whoraldo
First segment was a Danielle Van Dam report so nothing was missed prior to 9:20 PM EST. Mexican "terrorist train" segment still to come
1 posted on 07/14/2002 6:20:26 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
Great News,Thanks!
2 posted on 07/14/2002 6:21:39 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: cmsgop
Sure thing. A lot of people missed the Pulse show since it was new and on the Fox Network instead of FNC
3 posted on 07/14/2002 6:25:25 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
thanks i am going to tape it
4 posted on 07/14/2002 6:27:31 PM PDT by PatriotReporter
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To: spycatcher
So is it on the FNC or FOX tonight ?
5 posted on 07/14/2002 6:32:24 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: spycatcher
Disregard. I read the title...LOL!
6 posted on 07/14/2002 6:33:11 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: cmsgop
Henry Kissinger on FNC now too! Mexico segment to follow
7 posted on 07/14/2002 6:36:33 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: PatriotReporter
"At Large with Geraldo Rivera" is the show title. It appears it doesn't repeat late night for those in the east.
8 posted on 07/14/2002 6:39:17 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher; All
How YOU can assist fighting terrorist cells in the United Sates.
17yrs old and up, no upper age limit. Something for everyone to do


9 posted on 07/14/2002 6:51:44 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: spycatcher
For at least 1 year, shut the damn entry doors, clean house, then rethink and reform the immigration laws.

The PC nonsense is going to get more people killed.

10 posted on 07/14/2002 6:59:45 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Vidalia
Everyone but George Bush and the radical leftist dems are with you on that it seems
11 posted on 07/14/2002 7:07:45 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
"Everyone but George Bush and the radical leftist dems are with you on that it seems"

There are plenty of elitist Republicans, too cheap to pay real help who are turning a blind eye as well. George is their friend.

12 posted on 07/14/2002 9:09:37 PM PDT by brat
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To: brat
How do you expect an elite to be elitist if he doesn't have a peon to do his dirty work?
13 posted on 07/14/2002 9:34:53 PM PDT by meenie
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To: meenie
The idea of cheap, illegal labor is seductive...but not necessarily convincing. I wonder if I am an elitist?

I live in Orange County, CA; bought a house several months ago, and the previous owner had gardener who came regularly. The guy charges ten bucks to mow and trim the lawn, and sweep up the leaves and clippings. He comes once a week, does a nice job, charges 10 bucks a visit. I have no idea if he can make a decent living (his name is hispanic, and his address is in Garden Grove--for you non-local freepers, that implies cheap living).

On the other hand, my SoCal lawn is about 10 yards by 10 yards...and takes a lot less than an hour to mow and trim. I could probably do it myself in 10 minutes or less. I could buy a mower AND a trimmer for less than 200 bucks total at Home Depot. At that rate, I'd be money ahead in a few months...so I've been writing him (I don't have his number) to ask him to stop coming. I haven't had a chance to actually BE there on the day he usually shows up. I want to fire his ass but so far can't!

Anyway--here's my point. I'll admit, I probably could have hunted this guy down and fired him long ago. But I'm lazy, and 40-50 bucks a month to keep the lawn spiffy is ok while I'm working my ass off. I don't know if he's illegal--if it were some kid from down the block, just as good. Does that make me an elitist? Should I try to bust this guy, who may or may not be legal?

Anyway--I don't think this guy, by American standards, is doing great harm to our economy, or stealing jobs ('cept maybe the odd teenager's pocket money). I suspect he's scraping by, sending whatever profit down to Mexico to support relatives. Does that mean I oppose strict immigration control? Hell no. I'm just not sure that cheap immigrant labor means anything at all to people who can afford alternatives!

The truly elite (not me, unfortunately!) can afford more expensive 'help'. That doesn't necessarily mean that cheap help is harming the economy for most americans, though. What it *might* translate into is, generally higher prices on cheap goods like produce and other groceries, etc., etc. Not that the elite would care. But the average family on a budget might.

I oppose illegal immigration 100%, but not so much from an economic standpoint as from a criminal justice/cultural assimilation standpoint. Our immigration laws are meaningless without real enforcement. And the huge tide of illegals makes it impossible for us to retain our values. I think the economic argument is the least supportable when it comes to immigration reform, and unfortunately blurs the issue. Let's stick to our big guns and hammer away.

14 posted on 07/14/2002 10:13:06 PM PDT by HassanBenSobar
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To: meenie
The trouble with the elites is that they are creating TOO MANY PEONS! lol
15 posted on 07/14/2002 10:57:34 PM PDT by brat
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To: Vidalia
If we do that how will Jorge get re elected? He is a dunce but he really believes that he can out bid the Dems. for the votes of these Clymers. Of course we the sheeple get to pick up the tab. But not to worry. He is our war president. LOL.
16 posted on 07/15/2002 8:46:07 AM PDT by willyone
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To: HassanBenSobar
No problem huh? What do you think it costs in education and medical expenses to keep this guy and his family here? Employers hire these guys knowing full well that they need offer no benefits because they will simply go to the emergency room which you and I pay for. If you hire him then you are no better than he is. They would not be here except for people like you who cannot see past the end of your nose. And a ten by ten lawn? Cut it yourself.
17 posted on 07/15/2002 8:51:14 AM PDT by willyone
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To: willyone
Calm down...I DID say I oppose illegal immigration.

Yes, illegals cost us money for education and medical and other expenses. What muddies the economic argument is that they also create value. I'd love to see a hard economic analysis that shows how much value is created by illegals, versus how much is extracted in costs to taxpayers. Perhaps the net effect is negative for the economy, but until I see hard numbers, I'm skeptical. (Must be my nose getting in the way again).

As for the gardener I'm trying to fire--I don't know for a fact that he's an illegal. I didn't even hire him in the first place. Please, take your meds now.

18 posted on 07/15/2002 1:23:11 PM PDT by HassanBenSobar
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