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WAYS TO ASSIST/SUPPORT HOMELAND DEFENSE
Many | 10/5/01 | A Navy Vet

Posted on 10/05/2001 1:11:23 PM PDT by A Navy Vet

September 11, 2001 changed the American way of life possibly forever. We are no longer protected by the vast expanses of ocean - the barbarians are within our own gates. We have been been given a very large, ugly dose of reality and find ourselves in an unfamiliar and vulnerable position. We find ourselves having to defend our families, homes, and freedom on our own soil.

Because of the events of 9/11, homeland security (civil defense) has now become our country's top priority. This thread is to provide a central location for opportunities to assist in our mutual defense. Feel free to post any public information that would support in this effort.

Although the creation of a new federal cabinet post and bureaucracy is a debatable action, please do not use this thread to argue the merits of that issue.


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Military:
Army
Army Reserve
National Guard
Navy
Navy Reserve
Air Force
Air Force Reserve
Marines
Coast Guard

Civilian:
Coast Guard Auxiliary
Civil Air Patrol
The American Civil Defense Association
Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service
National Response Center
State Emergency Management Agencies

1 posted on 10/05/2001 1:11:23 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Bump for a number of fine organizations. If one has a boat or marine radio join the US Coast Guard Auxillary one can help the Coast Guard do its job by taking some of the Search and Rescue load off their shoulders.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

2 posted on 10/05/2001 1:16:49 PM PDT by harpseal
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To: A Navy Vet
Thanks for the list above! I'd like to get involved as a civilian, but what can I do? Can you list what each civilian org does above to give me an idea?
3 posted on 10/05/2001 1:18:02 PM PDT by ChuckR163
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To: A Navy Vet, Teacup, NautiNurse, Amelia, diotima
Thanks for the work, ANV!
4 posted on 10/05/2001 1:19:38 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: harpseal
Yes, I recently submitted my application to join the Coast Guard Auxiliary Flotilla 29. They need crewmen and radio watch operators. Currently they are assisting the CG in patrolling Long Beach/LA harbors. It's believed the patrols will significantly increase in the San Onofre Nuclear Facility area. The CG is stretched beyond their capabilities. I understand they are increasing their recruiting quotas...for those young enough to consider active military.
5 posted on 10/05/2001 1:24:50 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: ChuckR163
Just click on the link and look at their mission statement. Thanks for your interest.
6 posted on 10/05/2001 1:26:36 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Jim, any chance of posting this in a more prominent spot?
7 posted on 10/05/2001 1:44:57 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Bump
8 posted on 10/05/2001 2:58:45 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: sidebar moderator, admin moderator
Perhaps we could move this into Front Page News - this may be of interest to a lot of freepers.
9 posted on 10/05/2001 3:01:54 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy; sidebar moderator; admin moderator; Jim Robinson
Thanks folks.
10 posted on 10/05/2001 3:37:29 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: Howlin, A Navy Vet
Thanks for the info.
11 posted on 10/05/2001 3:41:52 PM PDT by Teacup
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To: harpseal
Right! Replacements are needed for thses guys --
12 posted on 10/05/2001 3:50:06 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: A Navy Vet
Bump
13 posted on 10/05/2001 4:01:58 PM PDT by lds23
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To: flamefront
"The members of the U. S. Coast Guard usually protect the Los Angeles Harbor, but now, they'll protect the U. S. Navy overseas."

All the more reason to join the Coast Guard Auxiliary. See link above.

14 posted on 10/05/2001 4:04:40 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Late afternoon bump.
15 posted on 10/05/2001 5:03:46 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Great list! I have two family members now on active duty. I've signed-up for the Red Cross First Aid course, and stocking home supplies.

How do I get a conceal-carry permit?

16 posted on 10/05/2001 5:41:35 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVgirl
I don't have a conceal-carry permit but your local law enforcement agency would be a good place to start. Thanks for you contributions.
17 posted on 10/05/2001 6:03:27 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Evening bump.
18 posted on 10/05/2001 7:24:16 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Many cities and counties are forming and training Community Emergency Assistance Teams (CERT). These teams provide aid in the event of natural disaster or emergency. I am a team leader in my county and urge you to contact your local Office of Emergency Services and inquire where your community is in this process. If they’re lagging, hold their feet to the fire by forming volunteer Neighborhood Emergency Assistance groups and inviting whatever lead agency is in charge of this replacement to Civil Defense. Many areas are resisting because of their bias against “civilian involvement”.

"Always Out Front"
19 posted on 10/05/2001 8:38:51 PM PDT by 115thINTC
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To: A Navy Vet
This post is a great idea. I was wondering how I might participate as a civilian.
20 posted on 10/05/2001 8:42:07 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: A Navy Vet
All of these fine organizations deserve our support and appreciation. They cannot, of course, do the job alone. Responsible Americans everywhere must become armed, and trained in the use of arms, and we must all open our eyes and be vigilant against danger. The job is made nearly impossible, of course, by the fact that there are one million legal temporary visa-holders from suspect countries here in our midst. A significant fraction of these legal visitors from suspect countries are here to do us maximum harm. We are right to protect ourselves and we can count on the help of the fine organizations listed here, but of course it will all come to nothing when the next attack occurs. The next attack is coming. Far worse than the last. Terrorists here on legal visas are working for the next big massacre. That is a sure thing. All the kings horses and all the kings men...

It doesn't much matter how much we give,
The terrorists hate the fact that we live,
They come from a culture incurably sick,
It only makes sense that we send them home quick.

21 posted on 10/05/2001 8:44:57 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
The best defense is a good offense-- Boot Gary Condit OFF the Homeland Subcommittee, and out of the House of Representatives.
22 posted on 10/05/2001 10:02:09 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: sidebar moderator, admin moderator
Any chance of posting this on the side bar for the weekend folks?
23 posted on 10/06/2001 12:48:18 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: sidebar moderator; admin moderator
Can we get this placed in the sidebar, please?
24 posted on 10/07/2001 12:57:49 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
*SALUTE*
25 posted on 10/07/2001 2:52:36 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: harpseal
"US Coast Guard Auxillary"

The Navy said I was too old, The Oregon National Guard would not accept me because I just turned 53.
I met with the Coast Guard Auxiliary Flotilla Commander 10/3
and it turns out that I have a few skills that they need and can utilize.
My application should be approved in about 10 days.
Also as of Sept 11 the Coast Guard itself is under the command of the Department of Defense.
While the Auxiliary is not part of the military, it can and does support military actions.
It's not exactly like being in the military,
BUT it gives me a chance to help the Coast Guard, thru the Coast Guard Auxiliary.

And I will take an oath to defend the Constitution and will be reqiured to
wear a uniform while performing Coast Guard Auxiliary duties.
Since I live on the Oregon Coast it gives me a chance
to help do things that will free up the Coast Guard for more urgent matters.
For example the Coast Guard Auxiliary can assist in military and/or boarding parties but not actually participate.
So a Coast Guard Auxiliary boat could take Coast Guard crews to board a ship,
but would not be allowed to actually board the ship with them.
The time I spend is whatever I "pledge", more if I want.
But just like the military, you have to train
and pass tests before you can actually perform duties.
I'm just glad that this old rusty tin can sailor can help protect our country again.
26 posted on 10/07/2001 3:03:30 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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Call the FBI Toll Free at 1-866-483-5137
if you see or hear anything that threatens our national security.

27 posted on 10/07/2001 3:49:58 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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28 posted on 10/07/2001 4:35:27 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: GVgirl
Call a local gun shop, they should know where you go and what your state's laws are for carrying concealed.
29 posted on 10/07/2001 6:16:55 PM PDT by yoe
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To: Cultural Jihad;Texasforever;Roscoe;tbeatty;CWOJackson;dennisw;
Sunday evening bump.
30 posted on 10/07/2001 7:43:51 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
BTTT
31 posted on 10/07/2001 8:10:35 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: A Navy Vet
Thank you! BTTT
32 posted on 10/07/2001 8:22:28 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: A Navy Vet
bump
33 posted on 10/07/2001 8:31:12 PM PDT by blackbag
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To: GVgirl
BEFORE you get the permit, JOIN THE NRA! After you get the permit...join the International Defensive Pistol Association. Then participate in the monthly matches of the club nearest you. THIS is the organization which will impart to you the NECESSARY SKILLS to survive a hostile street encounter. many IDPA clubs also do combat shotgun and tactical rifle...these are good items to become familiar with as well!
34 posted on 10/07/2001 9:05:36 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: yoe; ExSoldier
Thanks.
35 posted on 10/07/2001 11:38:28 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: A Navy Vet
Thanks for the ping.

BTTT

36 posted on 10/07/2001 11:43:56 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: ExSoldier
"BEFORE you get the permit, JOIN THE NRA!"

The NRA helped draft the Brady Bill.
Just what our enemies want, people registering their guns so files can be hacked into and people rounded up.
That is why our Founding Fathers DID NOT call for gun registeration.


Time for America to do away with ALL laws that violate the 2nd amendment.

Text of the Second Amendment
"A well regulated Militia
being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

Anyone who actually reads AND understands the 2nd Amendment
will see that there is no constitutional authority for any type of gun registration
and *there is no need for anyone to have to apply for a license to carry a gun.
*NOTE Vermont is the only state that understands this!
Any political party, politician, judge (etc), organization or individual who trys to convince you that:
1) you must register a firearm
2) you must pass a background check
3) you must wait (x) amount of days before you can get your firearm
4) you need to have a license to carry a gun
is either uneducated about OUR rights as citizens
OR is actively working to undermine OUR country.
How Did the Founders Understand the Second Amendment?

How the Brady Bill Passed (and subsequently - "Instant Check")
When the Brady Bill was passed into law on November 24, 1993,
the Senate voted on the Conference Report
and passed the Brady Bill by UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

NOT ONE SENATOR FROM EITHER PARTY VOTED AGAINST THIS.

37 posted on 10/07/2001 11:45:28 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: A Navy Vet
Here in LI Sound the USCGA is activly assisting the USCG stations in New Haven and New London. The local PD and Fire boats are also being used much more to assist with SAR and Port defense.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

38 posted on 10/08/2001 7:39:16 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
#1 GET REAL
#2 I AGREE with you in principle...but GET REAL! Ain't gonna happen!
#3 The NRA handed the election to BUSH. Gore and Clinton have publicly accepted this. So should you. In fact, I believe that all those onerous evil bills to which you allude actually served as an important wake up call to all gun owners and they are not set into stone...having a SUNSET clause which will cause them to automatically expire. Think the NRA is going to allow their renewal? See the first sentence of #3 above.
#4 Is the NRA the final answer to our gun control problems? Of course not...I personally like the Gun Owners of America better...but I'll throw them more support when THEY get over 4 MILLION members! In the meantime, see the first sentence of #3 above.
#5 NOW is the time to take the offensive (in a REAL ...not fantasy manner) in a legislative sense. We need to be putting pressure on Congress to pass a federal law that makes state concealed weapons permits reciprocal between states IAW the 2nd Amendment and more importantly the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the 14th Amendment so that just as our DRIVERS LICENSES are good in all states (the binding precedent) so too, should our gun permits be recognized. This should be done as an adjunct to any "Homeland Defense Bill" Congress decides to enact...this is of course a matter of national security.
39 posted on 10/08/2001 3:43:38 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: ExSoldier
"We need to be putting pressure on Congress to pass a federal law that makes state concealed weapons permits reciprocal between states IAW the 2nd Amendment and more importantly the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the 14th Amendment so that just as our DRIVERS LICENSES are good in all states (the binding precedent) so too, should our gun permits be recognized."

The 2nd amendment, as written by our Founding Fathers is REAL, all else is fantasy.
Text of the Second Amendment
"A well regulated Militia
being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."


How Did the Founders Understand the Second Amendment?

40 posted on 10/08/2001 4:32:36 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: ExSoldier
"GET REAL! Ain't gonna happen!"

Two words = Executive Order
One was signed last week to lift weapons sanctions against Jordan and some other country.
41 posted on 10/08/2001 5:12:29 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Lacking a definitive RULING by the USSC (US Supreme Court) on this specific issue....your point is invalid. Past holdings tend to support your theory (which I too subscribe to--but I'm also a realist, which is not your strong suit) but nothing since 1935 which we technically lost in the US v Miller case. The 2nd Amendment (don't quote it to me...I have it memorized and I teach Honors American Government) is still open to interpretation by the states and the USSC has not yet struck down any of the blatantly unconstitutional gun laws passed in the last 50 years based on YOUR interpretation of the Amendment. I'll say it again: GET REAL and deal with the issue based on the paradigm of the current playing field.

I'll say this: If the next terrorist attack is aborted by a LAWFULLY armed citizen, the paradigm will take a dramatic shift back to the vision of the Founding Fathers.

42 posted on 10/08/2001 5:18:52 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: ExSoldier
"Lacking a definitive RULING by the USSC (US Supreme Court) on this specific issue....your point is invalid"

How Did the Founders Understand the Second Amendment?
That is what the Founding Fathers said.
Now all you have to do is believe in the Constitution, not just memorize it.


CONGRESS in 1866, 1941 and 1986 REAFFIRMS THE SECOND AMENDMENT
The Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment right to keep and bear firearms,
originated in the United States Congress in 1789 before being ratified by the States.
On three occasions since then--in 1866, 1941, and 1986--
Congress enacted statutes to reaffirm this guarantee of personal freedom
and to adopt specific safeguards to enforce it.


ON THE DAY BEFORE Thanksgiving 1993,
the 103d US Congress brought forth a constitutional turkey.
The 103d Congress decided that the Second Amendment did not mean what it said
("...shall not be infringed") and passed the Brady bill.

How the Brady Bill Passed (and subsequently - "Instant Check")
When the Brady Bill was passed into law on November 24, 1993,
the Senate voted on the Conference Report
and passed the Brady Bill by UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

43 posted on 10/08/2001 5:30:27 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
~SIGH~ One thing about beating your head against a concrete wall (like continuing this stupid debate with you) is that it feels SO good when you stop. I herewith stop.
44 posted on 10/08/2001 7:47:22 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: ExSoldier
Glad you came to your senses and are willing to understand the 2nd amendment the way it was written,
not the way Congress "thinks" it was meant to be.
I knew with your background you just needed a push in the right direction.
Always remember those who wish to control "We the People" by making unconstitutional laws
are the same ones who indirectly helped make Sept 11 just a tragic event.
Anyone who cannot understand that concept would sure understand it if they had the
Taliban in their neighborhood for a few days.
Oh by the way I take it you have never been in any Communist run countries. I have, Cuba and Viet Nam.
What a difference the Constitution does make.
45 posted on 10/08/2001 8:34:08 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: A Navy Vet
BUMP for AM read
46 posted on 10/08/2001 8:42:43 PM PDT by LTCJ
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To: A Navy Vet
I just want to thank you for a wonderful thread. So informative . I am bookmarking it . Thanks so much and thanks too for serving this country. You helped keep me in a Free land. I thank you with all my heart.
47 posted on 10/08/2001 11:41:18 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
I was in EAST GERMANY during the height of the COLD WAR; long before the wall came down. DO NOT ASSUME things about me. I was also in Nicaragua during the Sandinista attempts to take over the country the first time they tried it.

We were never is disagreement, you and I. I'm just more REALISTIC about the chances of a more liberal intrepretation on the 2nd Amendment coming from this USSC or any of the anti-gun states.

48 posted on 10/09/2001 9:50:21 AM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
bump
49 posted on 10/09/2001 9:54:45 AM PDT by null and void
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To: ExSoldier - SAS link posted here!
JOIN THE SECOND AMENDMENT SISTERS!
50 posted on 10/09/2001 10:09:25 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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