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BLACK RACISM: THE HATE CRIME THAT DARE NOT SPEAK ITS NAME
Front Page Magazine ^ | July 16, 2002 | David Horowitz

Posted on 07/16/2002 5:52:10 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson
Thanks for that point, which I'd forgotten. The numbers are rotten in so many ways, that I have to laugh, when I hear "crime doctors" (criminologists) debating "broken windows" vs. "root causes" and such, or talking about demographic changes re younger "super-predators."
We have to use numbers, but I think that, given the mounting crime-counting scandals that have been exposed, especially in urban areas, that first-hand observation becomes more and more important. And the "experts" -- left and right -- tend to have no first-hand observations to bring to bear on the matter.

61 posted on 07/17/2002 7:43:41 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: staytrue
Here's some more enlightenment for your dark, dank, little room:

Cincinnati Burning

62 posted on 07/17/2002 7:48:36 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: staytrue
Here is the deal. If a black commits a crime by pulling a name out of a hat, he will pick a white person 7 out of 10 times.

Your argument assumes an equal distribution of population geographically which is not true, or a deliberate effort by criminals to travel far enough to find a random distribution of victims. I think it is not as straightforward as you are trying to make it.

63 posted on 07/17/2002 7:49:53 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: staytrue
And:

Cincinnati: Recipe for a Riot

64 posted on 07/17/2002 7:50:08 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: staytrue
And the story continues:

Cincinnati, 2002: Return of the Lynch Mob

65 posted on 07/17/2002 7:51:51 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: SJackson
According to Andrew Sullivan, Horowitz is full of it on this story. One of the perps had a white girlfriend, and there was never a racial slur expressed during the entire attack. Secondly, more blacks have been convicted of hate crimes than whites. Of course more blacks are committing crimes, and there are many racist blacks, but once again Horowitz doesn't deal with facts if they get in the way of his point.
66 posted on 07/17/2002 7:53:04 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: mrustow
Very interesting.
67 posted on 07/17/2002 8:02:35 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: FairWitness
it is not as straightforward as you are trying to make it.

It is not straight forward at all. My point was that just because blacks are commiting 85% of the interracial crimes you can not conclude from this fact that blacks are targeting whites. To conclude that blacks are targeting whites in significant numbers, you need another fact besides this one because the 85% figure is what you would expect from random crimes. Perhaps blacks are targeting whites, perhaps not. Perhaps whites are targeting blacks, perhaps not. My point is, that there is no statistically significant fact that says one way or another.

68 posted on 07/17/2002 8:17:55 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: dogbyte12
So, you've never heard of a racist black man who likes sleeping with white women? And your standard of "no racial epithet, no hate crime," is too legalistic. I've fought off lots of obviously racial attacks or threatened attacks in black neighborhoods, in which my attackers or would-be attackers never uttered a racial epithet. Please supply a link to Sullivan's "rebuttal."
69 posted on 07/17/2002 8:18:30 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: KansasGirl
I'm glad you found the links of value.
70 posted on 07/17/2002 8:19:52 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: staytrue; mrustow
To conclude that blacks are targeting whites in significant numbers, you need another fact besides this one because the 85% figure is what you would expect from random crimes. Perhaps blacks are targeting whites, perhaps not. Perhaps whites are targeting blacks, perhaps not. My point is, that there is no statistically significant fact that says one way or another.

Please see my post 50 regarding cross racial rapes. While the fact that black on white crime was 85% of interracial crime might be explained by population statistics, it’s more a function of the large number of cross racial rapes committed by blacks (whites commit far more rapes).

Note that of black rapists, 41% of their crimes were cross racial, compared to 3% for white rapists. That’s far from statistically insignificant. If these were crimes of opportunity those stats would be similar for both groups.

71 posted on 07/17/2002 8:42:57 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Four years later - this year in fact - a white man named Ken Tillery, hitched a ride in Jasper, Texas. He was given a lift by four black men who then murdered him to a deafening national silence. Like Byrd, Tillery was held hostage and beaten. Then he was run over and crushed to death. The copycat nature of the crime made it a natural news story. But there was none, save a modest account in the Houston Chronicle, to which nobody paid any attention. This savagery was apparently nothing. The pigments were politically incorrect. It was only some white guy, whose ancestors probably owned slaves.

Only reason I heard about it was that somebody made reference to it here on FR...

That is reprehensible.

I hope the Jasper-area NAACP is pleased with itself.

72 posted on 07/17/2002 8:45:25 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: SJackson
Note that of black rapists, 41% of their crimes were cross racial, compared to 3% for white rapists

let's try this one more time with the last of the mohicans. Let's say that there exists one guy who is the last of the mohicans and he lives in a town with 5000 whites. Let's say the mohican goes out and rapes someone and a white guy rapes someone. In this case, Note that of mohican rapists, 100% of their crimes were cross racial, compared to 0% for white rapists

73 posted on 07/17/2002 2:33:45 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Travis McGee
Late Bump....back from vacation....I see from this thread that the albeit well meaning ...Pollyannas did not suffer my absence. LOL
74 posted on 07/20/2002 10:01:25 PM PDT by wardaddy
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